Felicia 2.0 engine transplant thread

[TeflonTom]

right, this is a subject on which i've been thinking about for some time now but prompted by another member who is after more grunt for not very many pennies i've started to think about it more seriously, i think a reasonable budget for this would be about £500 which would be a realistic option for a lot of folks

[TeflonTom]

yes yes, i know... everybody hates these, but there is method in my madness here

i bought one of these off ebay about 2 years ago for £99 and it's been sat in my garage ever since so i'm gonna use it for something come hell or high water... i mean, i've sold it twice now and both times they never bothered to come and collect it:D

[TeflonTom]

will it fit??

i've made a few measurements and compared it to a 1.6 (aee) engine which i have kicking about and it does look hopeful, the width of the engine block is exactly the same as the 1.9 diesel unit

the timing belt end of the engine has the same mounting holes for the brackets as the 1.9 AEF diesel engine except for one on the lower right which is not on this engine... but hey, 3 bolts would be ok :rubchin:

the gearbox bellhouse mounting points are the same too :rubchin: except the ones on the sump... but they dont do anything anyway:rolleyes:

[TeflonTom]

i need to find a felicia diesel in a breakers yard that i can rob some bits from, the bits i need from the diesel are

1. Right hand engine mounting backet - MADE ONE!

2. Engine-to-transmission bellhouse adaptor plate - GOT ONE

3. Flywheel- GOT ONE

Edited 18 August, 2008 by TeflonTom

[Tech1e]

Hmmm, if the 2.0 fits so does the 1.8T

[TeflonTom]

Hmmm, if the 2.0 fits so does the 1.8T

tbh ross, that was my exact same thinking, although at this stage i'm thinking about using a felicia gearbox, then i will try and think of some way of getting a 020 box from a mk2 golf in there on the cheap, then it's just a short step to making the 20v unit fit in

[Tech1e]

True but ive seen many 020 boxes die at the hands of even a std 150 1.8T.

[TeflonTom]

you'll have to excuse my carlsberg-fueled drunken ramblings

the pics look a bit strange because of the angles they were taken at, but here is my preliminary findings

1.6 engine, crankcase height from bottom of block to deck 280mm

2.0 engine, as above, 280mm

[TeflonTom]

1.6 engine, bottom of block to crank centreline 60mm

2.0 engine, as above, 60mm

[TeflonTom]

just 3cm difference in width :rubchin:

1.6 engine, engine block width 350mm

2.0 engine, engine block width 380mm

[TeflonTom]

further investigations has revealed this

1.6 engine block to outer timing belt cover 70mm

2.0 engine block to outer cover 50mm

which means all in the overall difference in width is only 1cm between the 2 engines :rubchin:

[TeflonTom]

width-wise, it looks like it will fit with the v-belt pulley ending ud somewhere around here which gives about 2cm clearance to the chassis rail which is roughly where they are on the diesel felicia anyhow

[TeflonTom]

next thing i need to do is figure out what angle the 2.0 engine sits when installed, the 1.6 engine leans forward, but the 2.0 leans back slightly

[pinkskud]

leans back slightly!!!!!

if it leaned back any more it would have dreadlocks and be smoking a reefer

[skodafelicia]

a scrap yeard neer me had a 1.9 diesel felly in

[TeflonTom]

a scrap yeard neer me had a 1.9 diesel felly in

you any good with the spanners?? can you get the plate that goes between the engine and gearbox off it for me??? those things are hard to come by:)

[TeflonTom]

leans back slightly!!!!!

you must be thinking of the mk3 golf, in those the engine leans back about 30 degrees, for this engine it's only about 10 degrees

[KenONeill]

Yeah, given that the 1.9D was a factory option, I'd expect the 2.0 8v to fit, with at most a power bulge bonnet.

Not quite so sure about the 1.8T; is its head the same width as the 2.0?

[TeflonTom]

Not quite so sure about the 1.8T; is its head the same width as the 2.0?

yeah, upto a certain stage in production before the bores are machined, the engine block is exactly the same casting:)

Edited 18 August, 2008 by TeflonTom

[Allams Skoda]

If you search google for Felicia VR6 someone made a Felicia with a 2.9 V6 engine out of a storm. I'd love to have one of those.

[Taxi 219]

Wouldn,t we all

[Tech1e]

If you search google for Felicia VR6 someone made a Felicia with a 2.9 V6 engine out of a storm. I'd love to have one of those.

Pretty sure is was an Awesome GTi creation.

[Tom_vRS]

Yes it was mate.

http://briskoda.net/forums/favorit-felicia-fun-forman/felicia-vr6/64038/

Remember it in Max Power - was the first issue I ever bought - but mum threw it away :(

[pinkskud]

you must be thinking of the mk3 golf, in those the engine leans back about 30 degrees, for this engine it's only about 10 degrees

your right sir i was thinking mk3. that'll learn me to post when no no fit state!

[TeflonTom]

:confused: vr6, what's the significance of that???

Edited 16 July, 2008 by TeflonTom