Went to Powerstation at Tewkesbury today and had my car rolling roaded.

Decatted, 2.5" cat-back exhaust, pd160 and pipercross panel filter, with a single dose of millers sport 4.

Standard map.

Came out at a very respectable 145bhp and 238lb ft of torque.

Will post a graph up later

why do you have all that done and then no remap?

why do you have all that done and then no remap?

hardware mods first - remap to suit - ALWAYS should be last (or if really sad like me, do lots of mods, get mapped, do more mods, get mapped, couple more mods, aim to get mapped a third time. )

i got more than that with a Dragon box set at half way

I did have a dragon box on it but removed it as I didnt like the style of power delivery and it was affecting MPG.

Even with a dragon box at halfway it would still be around 15% gains so around 15-20bhp.

I plan to get it remapped eventually but as Jase has said not until hardware is done.

Edited 19 July, 200817 yr by ultra_joel88

Looking at the printout it says 91 bhp at the wheels? Seems low to me?

Looking at the printout it says 91 bhp at the wheels? Seems low to me?

It is very low. More like the kind of loss you expect from 4wd - perhaps even worse than 4wd.

I'll get a pic up... when I was watching the other cars it did strike me the amount of transmission loss on all the cars running there today... perhaps the dyno wasnt set up correctly?

An Astra GSI ran 212bhp at the fly and 147bhp at the wheels.

here is a prinout

sorry its not in colour

top is torque, then FHP, WHP

knowing powerstation specialise in 4wd (WRX mainly I think?) I bet it was just setup for 4wd use still.

I'll wait and see what everyone else with FWD cars got with regards to transmission loss.

Bit annoying though as it cost £35.

From the results on Awesomes RR we had a loss of about 10bhp from flywheel to wheels...

Hey joel good to meet you.

I'll scan and upload my printout in a bit, the losses did seem high but the results pretty accurate, I think I had about 60bhp tranny losses. My mate Gareth had something crazy like 130bhp loss with a fwd astravan.

your car must be broken as i thought all standard PD130's got 160bhp without any mods at all? :confused:

could the warm air had much to do with it???

your car must be broken as i thought all standard PD130's got 160bhp without any mods at all? :confused:

Standard vrs will produce anything between 135 and 150. I'd say this example is slightly above average, possibly to do with the exhaust.

160??? no no no sir. You def need some kind of remap for that.

Standard vrs will produce anything between 135 and 150. I'd say this example is slightly above average, possibly to do with the exhaust.

160??? no no no sir. You def need some kind of remap for that.

At awesome on Saturday my completely standard vrs made 152bhp and 288lbs/ft torque, plenty of peeps to prove it as well as a printout. Rolling road before that made 154bhp and 290lb/ft as well so it's consistent too. Got both printouts to prove it too

What engine is it?

Is it the newer BLT?

how do you know which engine it is? a couple of guys were talking about it at the rr day, mine got 141hp and 260 ft-lbs of torque, standard other than pd160 intake and panel filter.

Sounds like the road wasn't setup properly to calculate the power at wheels on the run down...

@ Iain - were both your runs on Awesome's rollers?

Steve

how do you know which engine it is?

The clean ways are to have a look at the vehicle data sticker inside the front cover of the Service Schedule (service record); or the same sticker under the carpet in the boot; or the Registration Certificate (V5C). The first two include engine output/engine code (96KW BLT for my 2007 vRS) while the latter includes engine number (BLT 021*** for my car).

Standard vrs will produce anything between 135 and 150. I'd say this example is slightly above average, possibly to do with the exhaust.

160??? no no no sir. You def need some kind of remap for that.

So really then, the 128hp that Skoda say is tut then?

Mine is the older engine, so are these generally less output than the newer ones? (are they BLT), can't remember the code for mine?

Why are they so much more in some cases? is it just the tolerances they build into the management systems etc?

Is there anywhere you can just pop in for a RR test then? I thought they were just done when you had a re-map?

Sounds like the road wasn't setup properly to calculate the power at wheels on the run down...

@ Iain - were both your runs on Awesome's rollers?

Steve

Nope, one was at Awesome Saturday just gone and the other was at vPower, a rolling road near to me (Newcastle) last November, consistency between both rolling roads should ensure the output is realistic, so I hope Bengie sticks that in his pipe and smokes it

Mine's the newer BLT engine as well, i've not checked but the newer one's tend to be the BLT's correct?

Nope, one was at Awesome Saturday just gone and the other was at vPower, a rolling road near to me (Newcastle) last November, consistency between both rolling roads should ensure the output is realistic, so I hope Bengie sticks that in his pipe and smokes it

Alternatively, it could be that both roads are optimistic :P

My bog standard vRS got 151bhp and 247lb/ft torque in March.