Agreed.

I've borrowed a coupla MKII's while my car was in for service, by my dealer (who I rate) in Bedford.

I tried a 16v

Firstly, it feels and looks narrow. It looks more modern obviously than the Mk1. Some people don't like the looks, comment that the rear quarter looks a bit bodged.

I dont like the way they have sort of shrunk it up at the back, and raised it up.

The interior, is kind of improved (the mk1 interior is kind of kack) and kind of feels nicer to be in, but too high like you say. Certainly in the 16v it doesn't feel anything special or sporty, just more modern.

The performance naturally, on the 16v was gutless, and I couldnt wait to get back in my mk1.

I like some of the styling queues, which they kinda borrowed from mini and other cars, but I still really like the mk1 in a "golf mk1 gti" kind of way (yes I did this when I was young, to be honest never really bothered about golfs now but each to their own).

However thats the sort of feeling I have about the mkI, the mkII has to be pretty damn good to want to tear me away. I have yet to be impressed enough and for them to really impress with this new vRS.

If its the TSI all chances are it will be a load of kack like the Golf version reviewed by Clarky.

I must say I do find it a bit boring to hear vRS owners complaining about the performance of the 16v.

Any F16 pilots care to comment on how little power the 16v has?

Edited 10 August, 200817 yr by stephenSF

hmmm, I understand there's not much you can do with a petrol. Is that true?

Theres lots you can do. remap wise though, theres no massive gains unless its turbo'd already. remapping just alters fuelling, and turbo boosts, and sometimes retards ignition or advances it, i never remember which does what. lol.

As for the car, i think the mods the dealer has done are spot on. As pointed out, there are nicer wheels out there, but not ones that'd fit . |I think those are the best available. Its refreshing to see a dealer doing something a little bit different. top work from whoever made the decision, or twisted the decision makers arm.

Is the above car the same kind of performance you get from a mk1 vRS?

Sorry, Stephen, it's a personal comment, just pointing out that once one you increase your "habitual" performance for want of a better description, its hard to go back.

To be honest, I was quite happy with 1.4Mpi until I had the vRS so its all relative. If you are happy with the 16v then don't knock it.

But having owned and experienced the vRS, it's just an honest observation. Ok perhaps being a bit harsh here, as I said its relative.

The 16v naturally does not have the sense of urgency as the vRS was what I was trying to say, it doesn't knock that's its a good car for the bracket it's in, which shouldn't be expected to be a warm/hot hatch.

Fair enough Tony. I have to say I do want to try the vRS, just to see what the fuss is about.

why is everyone moaning, the dealer is trying his best to make money while making his customers happy.well done to the dealer for making the effort !!

Edited 15 August, 200817 yr by jamestay1

This appears to have exactly the same mods as Winchester motors are offering on the Sport; they left the original Bear alloys, but the lowering kit and the REVO remap are exactly the same. Winchester are charging £13995 for a new sport with the modifications and metallic paint.

I've had a drive of it and it feels as powerful as my VRS (52K miles) but is noisier at start up and only has five gears. You would want to specify the ESP pack to get rear disc brakes (the sport only has drums at the rear) which further adds to the costs. Not sure if Skoda UK would honour the warranty and the modifications will be worthless when you come to sell it.... so depreciation could be an issue for some. The insurance will also be more as everyone has already discussed; however.........

It's great to drive, comfortable and, subjectively, at least as good as my VRs; if you enjoy driving and there isn't a new VRs to buy, then this is a good substitute. Dealers are trying to give their customers what they want and the mods are a pretty good stab at an interim VRs.

Winchester have it because their MD was sat next me in a hotel in Geneva when we went to the Geneva motor show and we discussed what we were doing.

I sent him the part number for the springs and he adready did Revo!

Good news for all you Derv. vRS fans! With VW showing off the Mk6 Golf Bluemotion{@Paris in Oct.}running the long anticipated 1.6CR-TDI. In this version it has the same power output as the ancient 1.9PD-TDI 105hp currently available. Seems to be the same 250nm/184lb-ft of torque as well, So seems real promising!!! Wonder if when turned up to say 135hp if the g/co2 might stay under 119 as this new prototype will produce only 99g/co2!