Hi all, hoping someone can help here. Had my new Mk II Elegance delivered yesterday and having browsed here for a few weeks now know I'm going to have to change my phone to work with the Columbus system.

Currently have a Qtek WM5 device (basically, a rebadged HTC), and need to stick to WM5/6 for work purposes (email integration etc). I've already looked at the rSAP list on wikipedia (SIM Access Profile ? Wikipedia), and want to know if anyone has any experience using any of the WM phones listed there (ie, do they actually work).

Company is with Vodafone, so am down to the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro as options, unless anyone knows different. I know Nokia appears to be the preferred phone of choice, but I moved away from them a few years back, and don't really want to have to go back to them.

All advice appreciated.

I'm about to receive my Elegance and currently run an HTC S620 which doesn't have rsap.

I've emailed HTC to get a list of all phones that they do with this and as soon as I get a reply I'll post it on here.

My last attempt fell flat as the reply was that they 'don't support third party software'. Strange reply to a question about their hardware but hey ho, second time lucky.

just buy an old nokia 6230i on ebay for £25 !! it will work perfectly !!

just buy an old nokia 6230i on ebay for £25 !! it will work perfectly !!

It will with the car but we both need phones which use microsoft exchange to get emails and diaries from the office which the nokia won't do.

I had thought of getting a phone for email and a phone as a phone but I can't be bother swapping sim cards over everytime I get in and out of the car.

It will with the car but we both need phones which use microsoft exchange to get emails and diaries from the office which the nokia won't do.

I had thought of getting a phone for email and a phone as a phone but I can't be bother swapping sim cards over everytime I get in and out of the car.

Why not twin cards......Problem solved......

Looks like Robski90 and I have the same issue.

I don't want 2 SIM's, as I'd like to keep the same number with both. Before you say Dual SIM contract, whilst Vodafone do have a Dual Sim option

1) They charge a fortune for it, and

2) It isn't compatible with our current company phone contract anyway.

As far as i am aware both the touch diamond and touch pro are suitable to work with the columbus I have both lol long story so dont ask the pro is up for sale it is a vodafone one as well any offers lol:cool:

I've tried the XDA Orbit 2 running WM 6.1 and it worked perfectly.

Pretty much any phone using WM 6.0 or above should work fine. I've seen a couple of Orange branded devices where rSAP has been disabled, but you can reenable it with some registry tweaks. The XDA developers forum has more details on this.

Bagpuss.

I've tried - for several hours - to set up the HTC TyTN II (WM 6.1) with my new Superb - with no luck. The phone pairs OK with the carkit, but it stays in "connecting" state when it tries to sync the address book....

If anyone (Bagpuss?!?) have been able to successfully set up a WM 6.1 handset, please post a detailed description.

i am glad my life is simple and my little old nokia phone will work !!! i am lucky that my work diary is at work on my PC and that is where it stays . when i am not at work then i dont care !!

i dont understand the technology enought to help i am afraid. i only worked how how to browse the web using GPRS last week. Lat night i connected my laptop to the web using my mobile as a modem and was amazed. didnt know this was possible . great for when i am on holiday in my caravan for looking up basic info. i know its slow but better than nothing !!!

hope you find a solution. just a thought - if it is a company car and a company phone and a company diary- get the company to sort the problem out !!!!

As far as i am aware both the touch diamond and touch pro are suitable to work with the columbus I have both lol long story so dont ask the pro is up for sale it is a vodafone one as well any offers lol:cool:

That's more info than I've had from HTC about their phones. Reviews of the Touch Diamond ain't great. I'm interested in the Pro though, how much would you be looking for?

Want to get this sorted before my car arrives in (hopefully) a week or two and there's little chance of work buying me a new phone so I can look flash in my car.

Klas Einersen said :

I've tried - for several hours - to set up the HTC TyTN II (WM 6.1) with my new Superb - with no luck.

Sorry Klas, the TyTN II won't work with the Columbus. If you look at the DE Wikipedia page (SIM Access Profile ? Wikipedia), you'll see the TyTN II is one of the ones excluded from the list of HTC phones that work.

Unfortunately, I know it's not a WM issue, but a handset issue (else my existing WM phone would work), and not all handsets are rSAP compatible (hence my question to find out who has a phone that they know works)

Re: the company solving the problem. I agree except my handset isn't due for an upgrade for 6 months, and as I chose the car, the onus falls on me to make sure it works with other devices. I kinda screwed up there, but as I was due the car upgrade, and I simply said "I'll have the newer version of my car please", I'm pushing my luck getting the company to upgrade my phone as well. If I can go to them and say "this one works" I'll be ok

I've tried - for several hours - to set up the HTC TyTN II (WM 6.1) with my new Superb - with no luck. The phone pairs OK with the carkit, but it stays in "connecting" state when it tries to sync the address book....

If anyone (Bagpuss?!?) have been able to successfully set up a WM 6.1 handset, please post a detailed description.

Your phone may just need a rom update, check HTC's website. The TYTN II does support RSAP in its latest encarnation. The wikipedia article is based on german phones and cannot be taken as gospel for every phone. Here is a quote from another forum.

For example the HTC Tytn II and the Touch diamond do support rSAP of the shelf, no patch needed, and yes, it does work. And it looks like that it is a Windows Mobile thing.

, talk about frustrating. As soon as you think you've found some concrete info on what does and doesn't work, turns out the info you have is wrong (or just not right for the country you're in).

So, to recap. It is (and isn't) a WM problem. The HTC does (and doesn't) work with the columbus, and as long as rSAP is enabled (unless you're on the 3 network) you'll be fine.

Clear as mud now. Sorted.

Update: After disabling PIN code on the SIM card, the whole thing works perfectly. So - the TyTN II is indeed compatible, at least when upgraded to WM 6.1!

Christ, this is all very complicated for a technophobe like me! :confused:

Klas, I know someone with an old TyTN II they are unlikely to want, but its running WM5. Did yours come with 6, or does anyone know if/how it can be upgraded ?

The whole rSAP thing is a real minefield. I've switched to a Nokia E71 just to avoid any problems.

With my XDA, I'm running a 'cooked' rom of WM 6.1 from the xda-developers forum. This is a rom produced by a forum member, and is based on the latest generic Microsoft codebase. This means that you get software that is unmolested by specific operator customisations. I find these roms generally work better than the one that came with the device.

On the PIN issue, you should get a prompt in the MFD and on the Columbus when the car kit tries to connect. I do with my E71. I guess it's possible that the HTC simply doesn't support this. I never tried it with my XDA.

bagpuss.

Good news alround for me today. I'm picking up my Elegance on the 24th Nov and work are giving me an HTC Touch Cruise which after a vey quick surf tells me that it does have Rsap. Once I've got the car and the phone set up properly I'll let you all know how I get on.

If anyone else has tried a Touch Cruise and got it working any tips you could give me would be helpful.

Just a quick update. Got the borrowed TyTN II upgraded to WM6.1, courtesy of the xda-developers forum, and it now works fine with the Columbus (running WM5, it didn't have rSAP capability). Can't stand the phone, but at least I have a temporary fix, until I find one I like.

From doing some digging around it basically appears to be o/s related. In theory, all handsets that have bluetooth can have rSAP capability, but it depends if the manufacturer has added it to the o/s build they've installed.

Useful official Skoda PDF guide to use maxidot with Bluetooth

http://www.universkoda.com/sup%202/bluetooth/forum%20us%20-%20guide%20bluetooth%20sup%202%20eng.pdf

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not sure what this means :

Please note: When you first pair your phone with the Bluetooth® system, your phone may prompt you to

connect automatically every time you get in to the car. If you accept this function that phone will be the only

phone that can be paired to the Bluetooth® system. Even the phone menu will be unavailable until the specific

phone is paired again.

we will want two phones to work such that when we get it the car they connect - is this possible ?

Car can be paired with more than one phone, but it will only work with one phone at a time.

Whichever phone it sees first, that it is authorised to work with, it will pair to.

thanks. thats what i thought but this explanation form the skoda info seems to say this is not possible.

In simple terms: Do not set your phones to automatically switch on bluetooth which will pair with the car once fired up. Decide which phone you wish to use then turn it's bluetooth on manually to avoid getting it wrong.