but with 226bhp you must still speed. if you dont i will chop my right testy off :rofl:

I am young too!!!!!!!!!

well not excesively! I cruise on the motorways and am always extra vigilant. the only thing I get stopped with is the gun as it is hard to miss the van or a car on the motorway and all the roads i travel on i know anyway. just the gun is tricky as they stand away from the car and look like a norm person.

and yea thats the van lol you can see it before you come down the hill! I laugh at everyone that gets cought there as its easy to spot.

I am young too!!!!!!!!!

well not excesively! I cruise on the motorways and am always extra vigilant. the only thing I get stopped with is the gun as it is hard to miss the van or a car on the motorway and all the roads i travel on i know anyway. just the gun is tricky as they stand away from the car and look like a norm person.

and yea thats the van lol you can see it before you come down the hill! I laugh at everyone that gets cought there as its easy to spot.

thats good to hear i dont need to chop the testy off lol

Trick that comes from experience is to know where and when you can exercise you're right foot .Just because it's only a titchy little 1.4td -doesent mean it can't exceed NSL or that I am one ofthe goodies creeping long at less than the limit .Fact that I don't (touch wood) get nobbled is down to exercising those principles .(And keeping my eyes peeled );) (not because I'm constantly under the limit -30/40 probably ,anything else probably not ,unless I suspect a setup))

well to be honest i have sat down with the blind dog this afternoon and have decided to stick to the speed limit lol and will try and watch the road a head and aslo the speed camera vans and the cameras oh bugger im a man and can only do 1 thing at a time lol..

so back to the thread i will book myself on a advanced driving course 2. swap my lead boots for trainers 3. buy a car that is limited to the nsl

thanks people for the advise you guys are the best

Westallc............

As mentioned laser detectors, although if placed in the right location in your car will tell you that you are been zapped but by the time you react it would probably be too late.

The best you would ever be able to hope for is that the operator zaps you and gives you a few seconds to adjust your speed and then zaps you again, which I doubt will ever happen.

I do beleive though, from personal experience that the talivan operators, although possible to get a conviction from a mile away dont follow this practice and have an area on the road that they target. If you see the van from a decent distance away and adjust your speed that is probably seen as a safer driver than those who are doing the speed limit and then stamp on their brakes 50 yrds from the van. At least you are paying some attention to the road ahead, even though not to your speed.

So, use a satnav etc with a decent database of the possible locations and be sensible.

When younger I would wait for a suitable victim to pass me at speed and follow them at a distance, keeping an eye on their and others brake lights ahead and basically use them as my speed camera detector..............

Of course, Im all grown up now and keep to the limits............

Steve

i have a micropilot that works okay, had 2 snooper saphires that both broke and had a snooper s6 that worked well .

also have a couple of radar detectors that i dont bother with , the constant warnings just do my head in,

5th gear did a test on these things and they did warn of guns , but not if your the leading car , youre done by then.

also have a road angel 6000 thats a sat nav and speed camera detector , this is pretty good as it will work out your average and warn you if your over for the specs cameras, this is a feature i think is worth having .

on the talex front , theres a guy selling off indic8tors ,on ebay, which are better apparently from the tests i've read and you can get 1 delivered for about £23.

the only downside to these things is the update costs , check them out before you buy 1.

pete

westi mate glad to save ur salteds lol

I used to use a Road angel which was very good and recently a Snooper S4neo. Both are supposed to detect mobile cameras but never did for me.

Do these have laser detectors built into them? if they do you need to remember that the beam is narrow and is normally pointed at your number plate and not the windscreen. Road angel use to sell the number plate sensors but it was a case of ringing them as they wasnt wildly advertised. If the device doesnt have laser detection then it WILL NOT DETECT LASER nor the mobile cameras, only warn you of locations stored on its database.

looking at getting a new one really want a good one that has the built in sensors front and rear for real time laser detction....anyone recommend one thaat works well.....

fatherinlaw has a talex which works well but doesnt detect hand held lasers or police car laser etc etc

thankyou

Many camera database companies have stopped building in the laser detector due to the laser detectors becoming illegal soon. Your right that gps units dont detect laser, but their databases are usually that good it will warn you of a possible mobile speed trap site ahead.

Talex do hand held and the sneaky van, you just have to update weekly at novus gps.

Talex and Novus are too separate companies, yet the old talex device can be updated with the free novus database, but remember your subscription details if you decide to put talex database back on (they are two different databases too). because they two seperate companies you will find some cameras updated quicker than the other or mobile sites on one but not the other.

In my opinion it's a lot better to swallow your pride and have 3pts and a fine than to slam your braks on and cause a multi-vehicle pile up

if you concentrating on the road and surroundings then you will more likely see them, if you are leaving the correct distance in front you you and plan ahead then you sohouldnt be invloved in a collision.

Ive had many detectors over the time, morpheous a proxminity one which became annoying if a camera was on an adjacent road. Road Angel with number plate sensor which was great apart from at the time it didnt have mobile warnings as the company informed me it didnt need it as it had laser detection. Talex and Novus which i prefer the Talex, a road angel sat nav which use to take me to destinations like a moth to a candle and i felt missed quite a few mobile locations, pocketgps which have started to remove mobile sites that havent been reported again in 6 months which i feel is digging their own grave considering how few do report locations and confirm locations to the amount that download it. Novus also did a huge purge by removing tons of mobile locations last year which again concerned me as if a location has been used in the past then surely it could be used again in the future?

Not tried origin but heard good things about them, the downside is you have to buy a bracket for each vehicle and they not cheap. Snooper ones from about 5 years ago i found were not very accurate and only kept the unit a month.

The other thing you need to bare in mind is updating the device, how often do the companies update their database, how much do they want, does it come with an updated database or free subscription for x amount of time? Many people buy these devices but never update them so when they do get caught they moan saying its rubbish when in fact their database is 2-3 years old.

As others have said, laser detectors aren't a failsafe guarantee.

If you are the leading car on approach to a laser gun, it will simply warn you that you have just been caught speeding.

What you are relying on, is that cars in front of you are targeted, and for your detector to pick up the 'scatter' - when the laser beam hits the vehicle in front, some of the beam is bounced off - and hopefully your detector picks that up, allowing you to slow down before you can be targeted.

A good detector will work in these circumstances - a lot will not.

Laser jammers (which are and always have been illegal) work sometimes. - having tested two systems they appeared to work about half the time on one and about a third on the other.

The other problem is, - if it does successfully jam the laser signal, it generates an error fault on the laser gun display, which an experienced operator may realise is caused by a jammer and stop you anyway. If found with one of those, the penalty will be higher than for speeding!

The thing detectors were handy for is being able to tell which gatso cameras were live (ie which had a radar in them) as about 80% of them used to be empty.

This is no longer the case - a lot of the newer cameras dont use radar, and have sensors built into the road instead. (and are permanently live)

The gps alert systems work fine (if the database is up to date) - the only trouble with these is you will get mostly false alerts because they warn you of an approach to an authorised site and not that it is being used at that time - probably 99% of sites are not being used at a particular time.

However they do warn you that you are speeding, so that is surely a good thing if you are driving at an inappropriate speed for the conditions, although you may not appreciate the annoying warnings if you are doing 35 mph at 3am on a deserted road!

You pay your money and you take your chance!

all sorted now thanks peeps...

i have spoken to the us airforce and they have kindly sent me a tin of stealth paint they will never catch me now...lol

all sorted now thanks peeps...

i have spoken to the us airforce and they have kindly sent me a tin of stealth paint they will never catch me now...lol

Just watch out that they dont shoot you now you have their paint on your car, you know what the US are like................

Steve

I'd have thought the car speedo was the best option - it's free and should be able to tell you if you are exceeding the speed limit

I'd have thought the car speedo was the best option - it's free and should be able to tell you if you are exceeding the speed limit

yipee another useful post thankyou

but how can the speedo help if im watching that im not watching the road and @100+ i think i should watch the road

must ask us airforce for a heads up display:D

another point with jammers is everytime it gives the laser irritant an error message they have to log it on the pnc (police national computer) if you get a couple of markers then the police will visit with a low loader and take the car away for examination, a few cases have been reported of this one that i can remember was a boy racer in wales.