Ok wife had a little disagreement with a Dicovery last night.

I looked at the Disco this morning & thought either the Skud is made like a tank or Disco has suffered elsewhere, Although the owner says not.

Needless to say insurance company is now involved and going to take on the battle lol

just ncase its not visable only damage to Skud is O/S/F indicator and a slight drop in bumper on corner!

Is something for sale here ????

Thewife maybe ........lol

Do you want me too move this thread

Is something for sale here ????

Thewife maybe ........lol

Do you want me too move this thread

Please, answered phone and 3 yr old decided he's gona work in IT!

Please answered phone and 3 yr old decided he's gona work in IT!

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No problem

the damage to the discovery is not new if you look at the second picture and the cracks they are dirty if it had just cracked they would be clean. the disco front end is very tough and would have cause alot to do that... ithink someone is having you over imo

What! No way!

That's a steel bumper the octy has munched through!! Does the ripped steel look fresh, or is it rusty, indicating it's been like it for a while?

Your going to need to whip off your front bumper though, to inspect your crash bar, as I'd expect it to be damaged after a shunt like that.

I knew the octy was safe, but I never knew it was a disco killer!

impact was less than 10mph the wifes says as they hardly felt it in the car!

And disco has aplastic bumper on it. But still cant imagine that it would have split in two places on his bumper & only cracked the indicator lens on the skud:confused:

Depends whos fault it is, but it looks like you have been chaved there mate. If it is your fault I would expect an ow my neck hurts and a full body cast for poor old disco driver.

They will be off to Dr Nick Riveria quicker than you can say benefits day.

Looks like proportionate damage to me, and it is still very slight. The main point of contact seems to correspond OK. Cars often come off with apparently very different damage - depends on transfer/absorption of momentum, relative stiffness/flexibility of points of contact etc.

There was possibly a pre-existing crack in the bumper, but I don't think you'll get anywhere screaming fraud.

Were the circumstances of the collision dubious?

Theres a lot of damage to that disco for such low speed! Maybe the middle of the bumper on the is a weak point? I would still have my doubts though.

I'm not disputing the fact that the Disco and Octi came together, but I've pushed against brick walls with the front of a disco, and not cracked the front bumper. I rather think that even if it wasn't as bad as that, there was some damage there to start with.

Depends whos fault it is, but it looks like you have been chaved there mate. If it is your fault I would expect an ow my neck hurts and a full body cast for poor old disco driver.

They will be off to Dr Nick Riveria quicker than you can say benefits day.

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Maybe the Disco had previous damage from another impact, but I know someone who took a front corner off a Daihatsu 4trak on the back of an Octy that was more or less undamaged.

She now has a Furbie estate instead!

Unless the Discovery's bumper is made of cheese.

Dont think that could do that much damage though.

Having had a look at available images on the web, there is no real reinforcement behind the middle of the number plate on that age of discovery and it is just plastic or very thin metal, there are 2 'girders' end on at the point the bumper has cracked up. So the damage seems entirely reasonable to me.

If you look closely unless my eyes are decieving me I am sure you can a bit of rusting where it has split. Even Disco's with all their faults dont rust that quick.

See below pic (cropped from pic 3 above)

Edited 23 January, 200917 yr by ben9
added pic

Without knowing the composition of the disco bumper in that area and seeing the damage, ie is it rusty etc, it is difficult to tell, but I would guess that the corner of something is stronger and less prone to bending than the middle of a straight bit, if you see what I mean.

That would depend Padraig; Since we're talking old-style bumpers which are basically a piece of U channel supported at 2 points, the ends will bend easier if they're further from the bumper irons, or did you mean that the middle of a piece of channel bends easier than the complex panel forming that is the end of an Octy wing? If so, then as #13 it's possible.

If you look closely unless my eyes are decieving me I am sure you can a bit of rusting where it has split. Even Disco's with all their faults dont rust that quick.

See below pic (cropped from pic 3 above)

welcome fellow ben! but err... plastic doesn't rust!, but those cracks do appear to be old and dirty. the middle section of the bumper is just plastic (a very brittle, weak one at that) with no metal reinforcement at all so would be very suseptible?.. susceptable.. sus....prone to damage, so would be entirely possible for this damage to be done with relatively minor damage to the octavia. the corners of octavias are very strong thanks to the way they are bolted to the wing/flitch with 2 10mm bolts and big metal plate. if you was to kick a discovery bumper with the flat of your foot, you would cause similar damage (not reccomended) i'd still say those cracks look old tho, but unfortunately there will be no way of proving this so the ball is in the disco owners court i'm afraid:thumbdwn:

surely the side of your front bumper would have popped out if you caused the disco that damage.also with all the cracks in the disco bumper why is there no red paint of your car on it. where did the (collision) happen because if it was not a public area don't pay them.

Im argueing the point with insurance company that I have a cracked indicator (not shattered a single crack) Also that the profile of the Discos bumper and to the front of the skud then if there was enough force/speed then the sort of damage I would expect the the bumper to have pushed its way onto the bonnet of the skud surely???

But her/your bumper was probably in the gap under the number plate and/or it has sprung back. You'll probably find more minor damage/distortion if you remove all your lights/bumper skin. The corner of the Octy is very stiff in comparison (and indicators and headlights are extremely strong as they have to take impact of stones etc. a 100mph+) and the center of the bumper where she hit is flimsy and not 'springbackable'.

You don't deny the accident and some damage, so at best the Discovery driver will be charged a proportion of the repair for 'betterment'. It won't improve your claims record/position so why worry?

Disco bumpers are made from >ABS< plastic so they tend to crack under pressure where as skoda bumpers are made from >EPDM< plastic and they bend rather than crack.

They made these Octavias tough didn't they

Its worth considering that it was the corner of your car hitting square in the middle of the Disco. The rear nearside corner of my old 306 obliterated a Mondeo rear bumper and the front bumper of a Vectra without taking any structural damage at all. Both times it was corner of mine to centre of theirs (and just to add I was stationary both times :P ) Corner of that Disco slap bang in the centre of your Octavia and I think it would have been a different story.