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Hi All,

Well I have had the car for just over a month now and I Love it. Me and a mate are planing a trip to the Nuerburgring, so before we go the cars need a little bit of tweaking.

I am hoping to get hold of some Koni Dampers from someone to put on the car but need springs. Can anyone suggest good springs to go with the Koni Sport Kit. I know the Eibach's are quite good but i have heard and read mixed reviews. Any other suggestions?

Also Im in need of a RARB, I know that the Jabbasport one comes in most of the time as the best but is the whiteline one any good? I have read somewhere that both Koni kit and Jabbasport bar is not a good mix, or is this just rubbish? Also does anyone have a Jabbabar up for sale :rolleyes:?

Any help or advice on afforable upgrades before we go would be great!

Cheers!

a good set of tyres wil have massive imrpovement

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The ones I have at the mo are not too bad thanks :thumbup:

Ive got Eibach springs and dampers fitted to my Furby vRS with Eagle F1 Tyres, I would strongly recomend my Eibach setup but last year when I nailed 15 laps at the ring I was experiencing something I'm yet to find a definitive answer to! This could be purely down to the ultimate rigours of 'The Ring' but under heavy cornering my wheels were scrubbing on all the arches to the point where you could clearly see evidence of this on all 4 tyres, admittedly it was worse at the front. I have since had my car serviced and instructed them to check I didnt have a cracked spring or worn damper but they couldnt find anything wrong - my Eibachs were all good :). As a result I am hoping the scrubbing was purely down to my Eagle F1 tyres as they have a very square edge, I'm hoping when I go in August to have a set of Toyo R888s on there, if that doesnt work then I guess I'll be lookin at a new suspension set up :eek:

Apologies to jack your thread mate but what suspension setups are other people running who track their vehicle?

BTW The Furby vRS does a decent job of lapping 'the ring' :D I'd strongly recommend you get a RARB if not got one already though.

Basics first - an anti-roll bar is a form of torsion bar spring, which works by twisting when one wheel moves up or down relative to the other one on the same axle (regardless of suspension design, and whether the car is rolling in a corner, or the moving wheel has just gone over a bump or pothole).

Given that, how can a "brand 1" ARB not work with a specific type of damper?

Well I have a Jabba RARB and have never had any problems with it - only good things to say but as Ken has said above surely they all do the same thing however as with everything in life you get what you pay for I guess. Anyway It certainly would'nt make any difference to the problem I'm experiencing though with rubbing arches under heavy cornering. I could corner at a slower speed but surely thats not the answer. I wont be able to tell really until I put some different tyres on it for a track day and take it from there, maybe I just need stiffer suspension? :confused:

I didn't find the eibach springs/damper setup good at reducing bodyroll much well not enough for me anyway. Think Ross commented that their was less bodyroll in his old Fabia with Koni sport/eibach compared to the eibach setup.

Faboka were you experiencing the same problem as me then with rubbing arches when on the track or did you just feel like you were driving a sofa so changed them?

did you just feel like you were driving a sofa so changed them?

Sofa :rofl: So changed back to a comfy ish sofa :)

Firstly - You'll love it! Secondly don't be tempted to change all you can on the car before you go as you can make things worse or not know what part had what effect. I've no experience of the Fabia but with the Octy the critical items were tyres, brakes and a rear ARB to dial out understeer and control the body roll. This gave a good "safe" and fast set-up.

The next year I opted for KW variant 3 coilovers costing over £1000 and they actually made it lap slower until the rebound and compression damping rates were tweeked and then it was a massive improvement taking 20 seconds or so off the lap time.

My point is that if I'd had it fitted at the same time I would't have known what had caused the imballance in the car and not appreciated the difference each component made. If your doing regular track work an ajustable rear ARB is a good investment. For example in the dry I'll set mine very stiff but this will have you spinning in the wet.

The thing that makes the bigest difference at the Nurburgring is track knowledge and that just takes lots and lots and lots of visits :D

The one thing that will make any car faster (and doesn't cost you more on the insurance for sure) is increasing the available driver talent!

After that, the 2 things that are certain to improve lap or point to point times are better tyres and better brakes.

Then, as Octavia Vrs says, suspension wants doing systematically and one type of new bit at a time, not least because you need to know what you're doing to not induce an imbalance (or just set a level of damping criticality that doesn't suit driver and/or tyres).

Eibach springs, Koni dampers, be it FSD or not, plus a Jabba rear ARB or a whiteline one, should do nicely.

It appears to have worked well as a combination.

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