1.8T 4x4 Perfomance Upgrades

[Guest westallc]

well you r a big boy arnt you gerry lol:rofl:

[amateurstuntman]

I can knock it...

I went to boarding school.

[Oet]

lol, smutty comments......make the forum all the more fun!

[Beretta]

lol, smutty comments......make the forum all the more fun!

Humour in a thread, be careful it will get locked.........LOL

[Bodge]

Humour in a thread, be careful it will get locked.........LOL

Beware the forum Nazi's! They love moving threads like this to the bin (otherwise known as 'Off Topic and Chit Chat')!

P.S. According to myself, I have the fastest Octavia ever. Beat that! It's output is measurable in BP (Badger Power).

[David 8]

Which nazi's would those be ??????

Gay jokes are OK these days arn't they ????

Like AIDS is now classed as funny as it's over 20 years old IIRC

[Bodge]

Which nazi's would those be ??????

Gay jokes are OK these days arn't they ????

Like AIDS is now classed as funny as it's over 20 years old IIRC

Hahahahahahaha! Aids! "Everyone has aids lalalala....." (Team America quote before anyone gets upset at me claiming they have aids!) Not that aids are bad, I just don't want bad aids. Good aids are OK by me.

Who said nazis? Oooooh I meant to say "forum nancies"!

So yeah, anyway, back to the point....... whatever that was! Something about not buying a 4x4 because they are fat and slow, and not a vRS. A poor mans vRS some may say....... HA!

[David 8]

Hahahahahahaha! Aids! "Everyone has aids lalalala....." (Team America quote before anyone gets upset at me claiming they have aids!) Not that aids are bad, I just don't want bad aids. Good aids are OK by me.

Who said nazis? Oooooh I meant to say "forum nancies"!

So yeah, anyway, back to the point....... whatever that was! Something about not buying a 4x4 because they are fat and slow, and not a vRS. A poor mans vRS some may say....... HA!

See I told you AIDS was now funny ....................(not if you have it I guess)

And yes you're right about the 4x4 ...........................(not that I would claim to know either way if I'm honest)

[chicken_eyebrow]

There was a topic around here somewhere wasn't there?

Yeah in short go for the 4x4 if you want understated looks and the foundation to do silly things with big turbos when you get bored of the standard car.

Otherwise buy a vRS. Does exactly what it says on the tin, gets better mpg as standard and looks a bit meaner

[coursemyhorse]

For your info this place is all about community, opinions etc

So if it's ok with you I will keep harping on as you so politely put it.

I'll say it again for you as you obviously have a problem reading, I don't care if you don't believe me, I DO NOT CARE. :rotz:

I am just defending what I and a few others know to be true, sorry that you seem have a problem with that but it is exactly that, your problem.

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But that was my point. This place is indeed all about community and welcoming friendly chit chat and sharing information. Why would you post up that your car goes X fast and runs X bhp but not go into any detail on the matter especially given that they are fairly bold claims at times and a known controversial topic, i.e.power based on running stock turbo. With your mentality we would all post up stating our cars power with no details. In that case, lets say I own a VRS and it runs 270bhp on stock turbo and that I don't care if you don't believe me. Highly immature...can you not see that?

It's not that we do not believe you either. You clearly cannot see this. People have tried to explain it several times but you just aren't getting it.

Do you really think posts like this are going to encourage anyone to share information, tips, ideas etc ????

:thumbdwn:

Are you suggesting that people should post more about what power their car is running without going into any detail or providing help to others? You would welcome more content similar to Delcac's? My post was written agreeing with what others have already said and to try to get more information out of Delcac.Why would any members be put off by my post? Quite the opposite, it is intended to promote such sharing of good content.

[Beretta]

But that was my point. This place is indeed all about community and welcoming friendly chit chat and sharing information. Why would you post up that your car goes X fast and runs X bhp but not go into any detail on the matter especially given that they are fairly bold claims at times and a known controversial topic, i.e.power based on running stock turbo. With your mentality we would all post up stating our cars power with no details. In that case, lets say I own a VRS and it runs 270bhp on stock turbo and that I don't care if you don't believe me. Highly immature...can you not see that?

It's not that we do not believe you either. You clearly cannot see this. People have tried to explain it several times but you just aren't getting it.

Are you suggesting that people should post more about what power their car is running without going into any detail or providing help to others? You would welcome more content similar to Delcac's? My post was written agreeing with what others have already said and to try to get more information out of Delcac.Why would any members be put off by my post? Quite the opposite, it is intended to promote such sharing of good content.

Whilst I agree the forum is a great place to share opinions and tips etc, you have to understand that to get high bhp figures from a KO3s is a long process of experiments, trial and error, and of course the expense that involved, all of these factors make it a bit harder to just tell the world an easy way to get what it has taken you a long time and poverty to achieve.

Its very similar to how Jabba/Awesome/IP and all other tuners will not just give you access to their tuning equipment free of charge, and whilst I am not suggesting forum members should be charged for information, it would be nice if they had actually tried things for themselves prior to the tell me, tell me type posts, for, as you may have already noticed we get loads and loads of members joining the forum with problems with their cars, they post up, get the solution free of charge and off they go, never to be seen or heard of again, much in the same way that a lot of long term members on the forum do they same, but having saved a fortune from the help given, never think to join Freedom and give something back to the facility that enabled them to save money.

In my own case, despite having sold my Octy vRS some time ago, I still get PM's asking how I managed to get reasonably high bhp figures, and this I take as a compliment, and if asked in the correct manner will always get answered.

[coursemyhorse]

Whilst I agree the forum is a great place to share opinions and tips etc, you have to understand that to get high bhp figures from a KO3s is a long process of experiments, trial and error, and of course the expense that involved, all of these factors make it a bit harder to just tell the world an easy way to get what it has taken you a long time and poverty to achieve.

Its very similar to how Jabba/Awesome/IP and all other tuners will not just give you access to their tuning equipment free of charge, and whilst I am not suggesting forum members should be charged for information, it would be nice if they had actually tried things for themselves prior to the tell me, tell me type posts, for, as you may have already noticed we get loads and loads of members joining the forum with problems with their cars, they post up, get the solution free of charge and off they go, never to be seen or heard of again, much in the same way that a lot of long term members on the forum do they same, but having saved a fortune from the help given, never think to join Freedom and give something back to the facility that enabled them to save money.

In my own case, despite having sold my Octy vRS some time ago, I still get PM's asking how I managed to get reasonably high bhp figures, and this I take as a compliment, and if asked in the correct manner will always get answered.

Nice reply Beretta. Ok, I can sort of see where you are coming from. For me personally though it's a kind of "the more the merrier". If I knew how to obtain said bhp figure even if it cost me money getting there, I would still provide knowledge to others for free as well. I just don't think it's the same for an individual per say, as Delcac (correct me if I am wrong) is not a business looking to make money, so I can't wee why any information would be kept secret. In fact, it would be very welcomed on such forums and big respect would be due if it could be proven. Does it not appeal to you Delcac to show us your efforts and recieve many thanks and praise for it?

I just can't see why you would want to go around stating your cars bhp as XXX without talking about how you did it. You don't race competitively or get money for selling on such bhp, so why would you keep it to yourself making yourself look like the only reason you won't share, is because you DON'T run said bhp. You surely must see that a lot of people are not going to want to hear you going on about what your car runs power wise without backing it up with atleast some details? Isn't that all the fun? Talking like geeks about the intricate details of an engine? So come on, put up the dyno/details.

[coursemyhorse]

Whilst I agree the forum is a great place to share opinions and tips etc, you have to understand that to get high bhp figures from a KO3s is a long process of experiments, trial and error, and of course the expense that involved

In which case, surely there comes a point where it is cheaper to just get a bigger turbo and map to suit, running lower boost to prolong engine/component life?

I guess what I am saying is, is it really worth persuing 250bhp on stock turbo, when you can run upto 300bhp much more reliably with bigger turbo conversion. Anyway....back to the topic of 4x4. I've been looking at getting one, but to be honest the VRS comes with better spec and looks nicer, whilst having slightly higher mpg (marginal though isn't it?), so everytime I see one for sale, I'm partly drawn to it, then remember how much I would want/have to mod it to look like a VRS = cheaper to just buy a VRS.

[karlbar2k]

Buy a 4x4 running on LPG. running costs are better than the wifes 130PD Passat

[vrs180]

Are you suggesting that people should post more about what power their car is running without going into any detail or providing help to others? You would welcome more content similar to Delcac's? My post was written agreeing with what others have already said and to try to get more information out of Delcac.Why would any members be put off by my post? Quite the opposite, it is intended to promote such sharing of good content.

I've always found Delac to be helpful when ever me or others have asked for help advice, thanks Des.

Briskoda is an excellent source of information, help and advice... but just dont ask for it like you did.

[Delcac]

I've always found Delac to be helpful when ever me or others have asked for help advice, thanks Des.

Briskoda is an excellent source of information, help and advice... but just dont ask for it like you did.

Thank you vrs 180.

Just goes to show there are ways of asking for help and getting advice.

Infact I will go out of may way to help people and am probably to helpful.

It's just the a few on here seem to think they know me without actually doing so.

Posting the way coursemyhorse/Bengie do with snid remarks will only harden my resolve. Post away my sons you will get nothing out of my.

Edited 2 August, 2009 by delcac

[oggy]

According to JBS (lottery) rollers I'm running 238bhp on the CC generic phase1+ map & I've got the graph to prove It. If Its that figure on other rollers who knows. If It is a true figure, which I doubt, I think 250 could be possibly achievable, Its only 12bhp more.

If I bought an high flow exhaust manifold & a custom map to sort the fueling & timing more accurate, possible??.

The only thing Is, according to my boost guage at the moment I'm spiking 21-22psi of boost:eek: which Is obviously helping me achieve that figure, but after talking to some turbo specialists about my blue smoke issue, I'm running 5-6psi over what they say Is a safe limit.

Its ok trying for the 250bhp mark from the standard turbo, but to gain that you are pushing certain components ie turbo to the limits & Its a case of how long things are going to last.

The thing with mechanical components, even though things are machined & built the same, you get some good & some bad. Take 2 engines the same, the power output will vary between them, so Des could have got an exceptional K03s turbo fitted;)

[oggy]

Before anyone asks

[Delcac]

But that was my point. This place is indeed all about community and welcoming friendly chit chat and sharing information. Why would you post up that your car goes X fast and runs X bhp but not go into any detail on the matter especially given that they are fairly bold claims at times and a known controversial topic, i.e.power based on running stock turbo. With your mentality we would all post up stating our cars power with no details. In that case, lets say I own a VRS and it runs 270bhp on stock turbo and that I don't care if you don't believe me. Highly immature...can you not see that?

It's not that we do not believe you either. You clearly cannot see this. People have tried to explain it several times but you just aren't getting it.

Are you suggesting that people should post more about what power their car is running without going into any detail or providing help to others? You would welcome more content similar to Delcac's? My post was written agreeing with what others have already said and to try to get more information out of Delcac.Why would any members be put off by my post? Quite the opposite, it is intended to promote such sharing of good content.

I never start threads about what I have achieved with any of the cars I have owned nor do I harp on about that they can do. I always let the car do the talking as anyone that has ever been in either of my vRS's will tell you. If you take the time to read back you will see that I only ever refer back to my car in defence or in answer to questions. If you can find 1 thread which I have started harping on about my car or what I have done to it I would be very surprised.

I find it laughable that this whole harping on about my car can be levelled at me as I have never done any of the following.

Started a project journal

Nominated my own car for Car of the Month.

Started umpteen threads about the slightest thing that’s been done to my car etc.

If it floats your boat good on you but it's not for my. Do you know why? Because of people like Bengie and yourself (to some extent) that jump on you from a great height saying it can't be done and you are talking testicular even when the evidence is thrust under your noses. Oh its Jabba figures, it was cold that day or it was seasonally adjusted, what's the point in even trying.

I have had thousands of PM's asking me questions about all sorts and I have tried to answer them based on my own experiences, never hearsay or what others have said. I have never taken any notice of what other tuners have said as shock of all shocks it may be a sales pitch. I use Impossible Performance 99% of the time not because Mike is good at what he does (that's for others to decide) but because I class him as a friend and I do not make friends easily.Yes I do most of the work myself and Mike is kind enough to let me use his facilities, Thanks Mike.

I have been tuning cars since I was 16 working in my Uncles garage prepping rally cars, which was 34 years ago. I've picked up the odd trick or two over the years.

I find it amazing how you think you know me from one thread. I don't like bullies or their tack ticks so excuse me for not helping them.

Edited 3 August, 2009 by delcac

[Delcac]

According to JBS (lottery) rollers I'm running 238bhp on the CC generic phase1+ map & I've got the graph to prove It. If Its that figure on other rollers who knows. If It is a true figure, which I doubt, I think 250 could be possibly achievable, Its only 12bhp more.

If I bought an high flow exhaust manifold & a custom map to sort the fueling & timing more accurate, possible??.

The only thing Is, according to my boost guage at the moment I'm spiking 21-22psi of boost:eek: which Is obviously helping me achieve that figure, but after talking to some turbo specialists about my blue smoke issue, I'm running 5-6psi over what they say Is a safe limit.

Its ok trying for the 250bhp mark from the standard turbo, but to gain that you are pushing certain components ie turbo to the limits & Its a case of how long things are going to last.

The thing with mechanical components, even though things are machined & built the same, you get some good & some bad. Take 2 engines the same, the power output will vary between them, so Des could have got an exceptional K03s turbo fitted;)

Oggy, Nice figures!

Your 22psi of boost spike has long gone when you hit 238bhp @ 6500rpm so would have little baring on your peek bhp figure. 22psi is a little high though. :eek:

[Guest westallc]

I have been tuning cars since I was 16 working in my Uncles garage prepping rally cars, which was 34 years ago. I've picked up the odd trick or two over the years.

bloody hell your old...lol knocking on beretta's door:P;)

p.s also to add i have pesterd des with many a pm over the last few months and not once has he not helped me. some people have there own views and such is there choice.....

i appreciate the help des lends me he doesnt have to even if some questions i ask appear silly he will always reply aswell between him and gerry i think they have saved me a few quid but made me a few horses

thanks des for the help maybe i will get to the 250;)

all the best

clive

[tsp]

I'm going to put my Octavia into JKM next month for the Revo stage 2 and uprated FPR.

I've got a green cotton filter element, Forge TIP, Forge FMIC, full Blue Flame exhaust with 100cel cat and an FP007. What figures might I get? I understand as alot of you have said that all cars are very different and also rollers can give varying results but a ball park figure would be nice?

Also, what is it like driving a strong 200+bhp Octavia? A handfull?

Thanks everyone

[Beretta]

I'm going to put my Octavia into JKM next month for the Revo stage 2 and uprated FPR.

I've got a green cotton filter element, Forge TIP, Forge FMIC, full Blue Flame exhaust with 100cel cat and an FP007. What figures might I get? I understand as alot of you have said that all cars are very different and also rollers can give varying results but a ball park figure would be nice?

Also, what is it like driving a strong 200+bhp Octavia? A handfull?

Thanks everyone

Without uprating the suspension, rear arb and brakes, you are losing some of the full potential of the remap, and the other mods you have already done.

My old Octy vRS was up to 238bhp and with the brakes , suspension and other mods done, was a pleasure to drive, and never a handful, even when driven briskly.,

[tsp]

Sorry mate I wasn't clear in my last post.

The car has got KW coilovers, R32 front ARB, S3 lower brace, SuperPro bushes and it'll soon have a rear ARB and braided lines

Tom

[Guest westallc]

you should see 230bhp with a good map... sounds like you have a very good setup there mate it will be ace to drive not a handful in any way shape or form buddy....you will have fun and should give a few bigger cars a suprise or two lol

any pics of your car ??