owners of superb 140 bhps support our cars its faster. smoother 6speed box .greener. dpf no problem dealers will top up . 130 were old models sold off with big discounts when 140 came out .are these 130 owners jealous of our superior superb 140s

You need to have a read of a thread in this forum from at least one member who regrets buying their 140 with DPF, its still not sorted despite major confrontations with Skoda. All the issues he has had relate to the DPF, and he is seeking ways to remove it without the car going into limp mode.

Here is the thread.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/59045-superb-2-0-140-bhp-dont-buy-one/

Here is the thread.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/59045-superb-2-0-140-bhp-dont-buy-one/

I think he thinks it's April 1st 2010 already Manny.

It's a comparitable thing to the Vectra tbh, i.e my 1.9 CDTi is sooo much faster than a 2.0 DTi, but the DTi will run forever without too many problems, where the CDTi will be there quicker but keep costing £600 to sort out.

Or to put it bluntly, the 140 bhp is made of fibreglass where the 130 is solid steel.

owners of superb 140 bhps support our cars its faster. smoother 6speed box .greener. dpf no problem dealers will top up . 130 were old models sold off with big discounts when 140 came out .are these 130 owners jealous of our superior superb 140s

I have had 3 Superbs in a row. I have had two 2.0 TDi 140's and one 1.9 TDi 130 - and for my money and peace of mind, the 130 was the better of the 3!

Best of three, better of two.

(AWX is the best engine though!)

rotodiesel.

Forget supporting the 140 version, I've long thought we should support the Superb range as whole. We're a minority on the Skoda forums yet I reckon it's far better than the Octavia.

Originally I went out to buy an Octavia but it was my Dad that spotted my Superb in a local garage. After a few modifications I'm happy with it. Now when I see Octavias driving around I'm usually struck by how boring and boxy most look .... although I bet the VRS handles somewhat better. The Fabia is a different type of car altogether and I see the sense behind it. Awesome pocket rocket and cheap to run. The Superb is a good sensible choice of motor though and gets very little accolade despite it's merits.

As for 130 owners being jealous of 140 owners, nah. Well not me anyways. Then again I don't drive a 130, I drive a 170+.

Edited 21 December, 200916 yr by allclownsareevi

I really dont know what the fuss is all about what with the 130bhp superb or the 140 facelift superb...yes there are subtle differences between the two models, but as we all know, the models were improved...especially the elegance that gained the sat nav along with white instrumentation, built in indicators....redesigned grill and maybe different alloys, and different rear lights, folding rear seats.

The same goes with the comfort models, different alloys and same exterior tweaks in the facelift design, and an increase of power to 140bhp. I have owned my facelift 140 bhp comfort for almost 3yrs now with no mechanical problems at all, yes i could have gone for the 130bhp model, and tbh, it was the facelift that made me go and buy one brand new.

My wife and i drive it very carefully, service it way above the dealer spec, and she hasnt let me down, apart from a drivers seat problem ( snapped cable ) the rest of the issues were the same as what the older superbs suffer from as well, and i was quite prepared to accept those issues...after all, one does get a lot of car for the money !

I can see apoint of view whereby someone bought a older superb jus before the facelift appeared on the scene, and maybe missed out on a slightly better looking model, either through the cost or didnt know the newer model appearing, i went for the newer model because i wanted a new car....myself being the only owner, and therefore i have no hidden history to worry about and high mileages. As for the inherrant faults i can live with that, and i feel with regular maintenance, the car will look after you if you look after the car...and i sometimes feel that those on here who have had problems with their superb wether new or older models, well thas just luck of the draw, Even i hold my hands up kicking myself over seeing the new superb...but im happy with my purchase, even with the reported dpf issues other unfortunate owners have had, and yes it makes alarming reading on the forum, but its not confined to just the superb 140bhp.....other manufacturers have the same problem, and ppl are quite happy to moan about it.......and gloat that thy dont have theproblem the newer models have......but then again they dont have the newer models, so a touch of jealousy there i think...but we are all in these forums to help each other out with our respective cars new or old...happy motoring to all you superb owners!!

well superbia ive never seen a fibreglass superb.....unless of course the bumpers are made of it.......and yes although my superb is a 140bhp six speed manual and a great cruiser.....it does sport a 170 badge.......not that it makes it go faster.....it keeps the drivers behind me guessing

From what I read the MkII is well spec'ed and an all round good car but I just can't take to the styling. Looks very japanese/american hybrid type of design. I was disappointed when I first saw it. Just a personal preference I guess.

Have heard about the Mk1 getting a facelift on later models, but never really stopped to check out the differences. Guessing on a 53 plate I have a pre-facelift version. A pre-facelift, poverty-spec version at that. Man that sounds bad.

They made a mess of it inside tbh, white clocks with old green centre console instruments, some Elegance models ended up with black matt instead of the wood trims and not many had a sunroof, nicest wheel was the 5 star ones that dished inwards, not to be mistaken for the older aweful looking ones found on the Elegance that bowed out rather than in, outside the new grille was better, car should've had dedicated foglamps instead of the annon ones in the light units, mirror indicators looked nice as well, back lights didn't go far enough for my liking, but hey ho, who wants to spend out on a car that they couldn't shift, and Skoda's one major boob, deleting the 130 auto, they should've deleted the V6 on the gounds of economy alone, 130's are probably good for 5mpg more per gallon over the V6 and less to maintain, I know if I could get an 08 130 auto in Elegance spec for the right money I'd be looking for one, instead I have to wait for the price of a mk2 to drop by 7k s/h until I can consider changing, 18k for a year old 20k car is a wee take imo, and even a brand new 2.0 S can be bought for 1.5k less than a year old one with 14k on the clock looking at the current pricing, I've decided I can get over the rear end in exchange for the legroom and spec the new car offers.

well superbia ive never seen a fibreglass superb.....unless of course the bumpers are made of it.......and yes although my superb is a 140bhp six speed manual and a great cruiser.....it does sport a 170 badge.......not that it makes it go faster.....it keeps the drivers behind me guessing

You really gotta watch that oil pump drive spline bud, it's not a rumour, I've seen it happen, and it kills the turbo with it sadly.

I wonder how the DPFs are getting on with all of these cars idling for hours at sub-zero temperatures?

I'd be really annoyed if I had a car which couldn't cope with that.

Remember, chaps - cover the snow inlet at the base of the windscreen with a towel if you have to park a Superb outside at the moment. We all know where the melt water will end up...

rotodiesel.

Edited 22 December, 200916 yr by rotodiesel

Well, the Mrs was in the snow yesterday for 6hrs, car performed admirably, only time will tell!!!

well superbia i have to admit that the oil pump issues that have been mentioned on this forum is quite alarming reading, like you say the engine is starved of oil and various components fail.....like the turbo for instance. What kind of mileages are we talking here before something happens?

Ive seen rotodiesels comments on here, and i get the impression he has got it in for the poor old superb, and maybe other volkswagon marques in the range. I was also wondering, if there was a method of finding out on how to keep an eye on the oil pressure side of things, like fitting an oil pressure guage for example? maybe utilising a sensor screwed onto the side of the oil filter and reading off what pressure the guage is showing, and in turn keeping an eye on the lbs / ft and finding out when the oil pressure is actually waning before deciding to take any action?

Incidentally, how difficult is it to change the spline drive on the superb 140 tdi? or is it a garage jobby? cheers andy

well superbia i have to admit that the oil pump issues that have been mentioned on this forum is quite alarming reading, like you say the engine is starved of oil and various components fail.....like the turbo for instance. What kind of mileages are we talking here before something happens?

Ive seen rotodiesels comments on here, and i get the impression he has got it in for the poor old superb, and maybe other volkswagon marques in the range. I was also wondering, if there was a method of finding out on how to keep an eye on the oil pressure side of things, like fitting an oil pressure guage for example? maybe utilising a sensor screwed onto the side of the oil filter and reading off what pressure the guage is showing, and in turn keeping an eye on the lbs / ft and finding out when the oil pressure is actually waning before deciding to take any action?

Incidentally, how difficult is it to change the spline drive on the superb 140 tdi? or is it a garage jobby? cheers andy

I don't think it's a case of monitoring mate, my mate had some Fiat Tempra's years ago, and they did the same thing to the brake servo, it's a case of it's working one second, and it ain't the next, depending on if you are turning a corner or flat out on the motorway judges the damage tbh, any decent supplier would issue a recall, as the part is £3 and it's failure causes £1000 worth of damage.

owners of superb 140 bhps support our cars its faster. smoother 6speed box .greener. dpf no problem dealers will top up . 130 were old models sold off with big discounts when 140 came out .are these 130 owners jealous of our superior superb 140s

I think people on here are mature enough not to enter into such silly tit for tat. The forum is about good honest advice and support. Both the 130 and 140 have some issues but the 140 does have DPF which brings with it extra gremlins. I have driven the 140 and its a great car however this is not a Skoda problem but a government obsession with CO2 issue. Most Manfactors now have DPF on diseils and MOST have problems. Its not about laughing at someone with the 140 but giving them the knowledge to understand their car. I have said previously not even dealers were aware of the DPF problems and costs, so how can the general buying public know? The oil pump and 6 speed boxes are prone to problems as well but again its not about "my car is better than yours" but giving the owner some knowledge about potential problems. We all now some cars will run perfectly but others will get some problems so you pay your money and take your chance.

I still have yet to understand how a "greener car" pays more road tax a year because the emmisions are higher? (ok that was a bit of tat)

I have to admit I am jealous of the indicator in the door mirrors and new front grill.

Fair comment - it's always better to keep posts objective, constructive and to share knowledge.

Jealous of the indicators and grille? The Superb I is "styled" like a brick outhouse - it would take more than a few bits of trim to make it even remotely attractive. I bought mine to do a job, which it does well. I park it with its nose to the wall so I don't have to see that dreadful "Stalin's Prison" front grille.

rotodiesel.

is your car the earlier model superb or the facelift superb rotodiesel?

You need to have a read of a thread in this forum from at least one member who regrets buying their 140 with DPF, its still not sorted despite major confrontations with Skoda. All the issues he has had relate to the DPF, and he is seeking ways to remove it without the car going into limp mode.

Fair comment - it's always better to keep posts objective, constructive and to share knowledge.

Jealous of the indicators and grille? The Superb I is "styled" like a brick outhouse - it would take more than a few bits of trim to make it even remotely attractive. I bought mine to do a job, which it does well. I park it with its nose to the wall so I don't have to see that dreadful "Stalin's Prison" front grille.

rotodiesel.

Honestly man, sometimes you crack me up with your hatred of the Superb. It's the fact you're very knowledgeable mechanically AND because you own one that makes it funny. You're like the "Superb scrooge" fella. I swear one day you're gonna say something good about them and I'll **** kittens.

In answer to thread dont buy one posted10 oct 2006

the brochure i have from 2006 states that the 140 bhp euiv engines start production week 42 beginning 16 oct 2006 i purchased mine new nov that year ifthis car of stuart j had dpf faultand he posted it 10 oct 2006 it would have loads of warrenty on it to go it must have been newer than new ?

is your car the earlier model superb or the facelift superb rotodiesel?

Early model. The later one's no better though.

There are lots of things "Skoda" (VAG) could have done to the Superb if they really must facelift it - stainless steel pinch bolts for the outer top balljoints would have been a start...

Good car (Euro III diesel) for doing a job - not much else. That's why they're all taxis where I live. The Mk 2s are going the same way.

rotodiesel.

Edited 23 December, 200916 yr by rotodiesel

Surprising reading really as I know people with the 140 engine in Octys and Golfs that have given brilliant service. However I didin't notice a big difference in performance in the 140. To the Op if you love your car that is all that matters!

Well like i say, ive had my superb almost 3yrs now, and its performed impeccably on our holidays to france, the latter being a 15hr cruise from calais to frejus. We never went above the 2,000 rpm mark and in 6th gear it was poodling along at almost 80mph, which in my opinion didnt even hurt the engine. I firmly believe that with very regular oil changes and filter changes will only increase the life expectancy of these vehicles, regardless of what some unfortunate superbs have gone through what with engine malfunctions and other failures.

Ive been in a 140bhp six speed manual elegance superb with 97k miles on the clock, being used as a taxi, and the driver reported no ill feelings with his car...quoted as saying it was serviced more than regularly, and he was more than happy with it. So having heard him say that only confirmed my old saying.........look after the car and it will look after you.