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-18 this morning was coldest displayed temperature on the way to work. Was -15 when I got in the car at home.

Expecting colder tomorrow. Unsurprisingly the glow plug light took a little longer to go out than normal but car started without a moments hesitation.

Brrrrr.

Niall

Coldest I ever drove my Octy I in was in the minus 20s in Austria and it had no problems. Had to tow a couple of LDV mini buses we had from work to get them going but the Skoda was unfazed by it. Minus 13 this mornign was our coldest so far this year. Sunshine today was just stunning. Shame I had to work, I was depserate to get outside with my camera. Just grabbed one quick shot on my way home..

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Nice picture! :yes:

Hovering at just a little more than - 10 deg C perhaps -11 C on one thermometer the car reads - 9 C

Nice picture! :yes:

thanks - I just pressed the button :giggle:

Well I am not sure what it might have said on the car information screen but on the thermometers that I put outside, it went down to - 15 C when I checked this morning. Unfortunately the water pump that pumps water up to the house from our supply is broken. One of the pipes either leading to it from the water supply or from it to the house, froze. The pump must have then been pumping air or ice all night until it just burnt out. I had added extra insulation but evidently it was not enough for last nights fall in temperature. So no water, no bath, nothing. We had to use baby wipes for washes this morning. It will need a drive into Swansea to buy a new pump and then wait for the water in the pipes to thaw out. I very nearly switched the pump off too. Oh well. It would not have happened if I had a snow monster ill bet. :dull:

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pah, the tropical temperatures are lightweight contributions so far.... :sun:

-17.5c in my wee corner of aberdoomshire this morning :o

though our Scandinavian SMOC contingent should be able to trounce that with ease methinks

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but on the thermometers that I put outside, it went down to - 15 C when I checked this morning.

Putting my business (weather stations) hat on, I'd be surprised if the air temperature got that low unless you have the thermometer properly screened. Assuming that it was unscreened, the thermometer probably cooled by radiation cooling to significantly below the ambient air temp and was recording the temperature of itself rather than the surrounding air. (The screen prevents the effects of radiation coling.) Very cold last night, certainly, but -15C might be an overestimate of just how low a figure the actual air temperature reached. But maybe you do have it in a shield/screen?

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Putting my business (weather stations) hat on, I'd be surprised if the air temperature got that low unless you have the thermometer properly screened. Assuming that it was unscreened, the thermometer probably cooled by radiation cooling to significantly below the ambient air temp and was recording the temperature of itself rather than the surrounding air. (The screen prevents the effects of radiation coling.) Very cold last night, certainly, but -15C might be an overestimate of just how low a figure the actual air temperature reached. But maybe you do have it in a shield/screen?

Your most probably right. The thermometer was protected however, in a large plastic jacket and not exposed directly to the outside. The thermometer was not a certificated one neither so it could well be inaccurate and most probably is, so the temperature could have been warmer or on the other hand colder We also live just below a thousand feet in a very exposed hill top. The temperature is much often colder than the valley below and we often have snow when they do not. Interestingly our trees come out later in the spring also.

I would be most happy if you where to enlighten me with weather station information. It is something I have been considering taking an interest in for a long while and now my daughter has reached 5 and has so many questions, I thought that I could involve her. I have some experience with wet and dry bulb hygrometers for measuring relative humidity.

We also live just below a thousand feet in a very exposed hill top. The temperature is much often colder than the valley below and we often have snow when they do not. Interestingly our trees come out later in the spring also.

I wasn't intending to write an extended comment, but it would also have depended, to a considerable extent on how much snow cover there was and how close to the snow cover the thermometer might have been. If it was very calm where you live then there would likely have been a sharp gradient of air temperature from the snow level up higher into the air. I've seen a (credible) figure today of -15C at the snow surface but -6.5C (probably) at the standard height for air temperature measurements of 1.2m for a location in N Devon. There's thread running today, as you might expect, in the uk.sci.weather newsgroup ('Min temps Fri 8 Jan 2010'), also accessible via Google groups if you don't have direct newsgroup access at:

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sci.weather/browse_thread/thread/3cec85d45ed80889/349d17e1dc533d0e

(sorry - it's a long URL - be careful of any line wrap)

Also, last night, it would likely have been colder in the valley (where the coldest air would have pooled) than on the hill-top

I would be most happy if you where to enlighten me with weather station information.

We have a website at http://www.weatherstations.co.uk which might be as good a place as any to start.

Apologies to the thread for this OT post!

I use the Mersey Tunnel daily. My increases by 5 to 6 degrees within a minute, then returns to its lower temp on exit, about 5 minutes later.

prodata,

I have just been watching the local BBC Wales Today News Program and they reported temperatures as low as - 15 C last night at a location not that many miles from here as the crow flies, so my recording of temperature albeit with poor equipment of - 15 C might not be too fanciful at all. I do take the point about professional equipment and procedures.

I have just been looking at this site,

http://www.ukweathershop.co.uk/

Perhaps their might be something that might suit the Yeti! To keep it topical and within the rules :D .

Oh I was logged out and did not see your post above. I will have read

I'm starting to find the weather not that cold the last few days - even though it's got colder! :o

Not quite T shirt and shorts, but dispensed with scarf and hat whilst doing the scraping on the cars.

Friday morning my car temperature was reading -18c, parked at the Westmoreland Hotel (just off the M6).

I dont know how cold it got here the other night, but the water leaving my bath froze as it hit the outside air!!

I spent hours heating the lead pipe inside the bathroom, trying to unfreeze it; in the end I gave up, waited till morning and went up a ladder and did it from the outside; there was a little ice mountain from the drain basin up to the end of the pipe!!!

The coldest I have known here was -17C a few years ago; still, mustn't complain, I was due to go to Bishkek a few Christmas's ago, it was -45C there!!! (I ended up getting sun-burnt in Dubai instead:rofl:)

One of my fun recollections from moving to England in the 1960's was asking why all the plumbing was on theoutside of the houses? The answer was: "So it is easier to thaw when it freezes." Coming from a country, where central heating was normal, this made no sense to me at the time - come to think of it, still doesn't.

I 'spose it falls under the category "Quaint"

in my vrs it read -6.0 thats the lowest ive seen it

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One of my fun recollections from moving to England in the 1960's was asking why all the plumbing was on theoutside of the houses? The answer was: "So it is easier to thaw when it freezes." Coming from a country, where central heating was normal, this made no sense to me at the time - come to think of it, still doesn't.

I 'spose it falls under the category "Quaint"

Sanitary pipework on the outside of a building was more to do with health concerns, for example sewer gases leaking back into the building. These concerns dated back to Victorian times when lack of proper water and sanitary systems was a major cause of deaths in the overcrowded industrial cities of that period.

Also made life easer for the plumber particularly when components where manufactured from Lead and cast iron and obviously easy access for maintenance, hence your reference to unfreezing pipework.

Today it is preferable to place soil stacks inside a building to prevent freezing and is a legal requirement under Building Regulations for anything over 3 stories.

Central heating for domestic installation is a fairly 'modern' thing 1960's on, although in the winter of 91/92 I lived in an early 1970's property that had not been altered since, had steel windows, a small gas fire, a radiator downstairs and one in the bathroom; coats and blankets where the order of the day as it was warmer out than in :S

TP

I dont have full central heating, I find it too dry and it gives me eczema/ irritated skin problems. I try to balance "dry" electrical heating with "wet" gas heating, and a solid fuel fire for when the national grid collapses :doh:

What is central heating?

20 KW Multi fuel fire in the Chimney fawr and another 6 KW of the same at the other end or bach. No central heating, stone walls, single glazing. I do have an internal soil stack so mod cons there but it all goes into a septic tank that never needs emptying. It looks after its self, bacterial action. No mains water, it comes out of the ground and then is pumped up the hill. Well it is when the electricity is on or the pump is working. Talking of electricity this house was only connected in the 1970s' the nearest village only connected in the early 1970s. No gas, I do have a phone. :rofl:

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I do have a phone. :rofl:

One of these?

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Blimey Anthony that is VERY rural.....where abouts are you if you don't mind me asking?

No gas here either...although we have just had central heating! B)

What is central heating?

20 KW Multi fuel fire in the Chimney fawr and another 6 KW of the same at the other end or bach. No central heating, stone walls, single glazing. I do have an internal soil stack so mod cons there but it all goes into a septic tank that never needs emptying. It looks after its self, bacterial action. No mains water, it comes out of the ground and then is pumped up the hill. Well it is when the electricity is on or the pump is working. Talking of electricity this house was only connected in the 1970s' the nearest village only connected in the early 1970s. No gas, I do have a phone. :rofl:

That qualifies as Quaint, me thinks.

It reminds me a litle of our first flat in Camberley - bottom floor of an old farmhouse behind the Staff College. No central heating, only coal fires and wide floorboards in the living room with a carpet on top - which lifted and hovered around the room when there was a real good fire going.

Currently in a former Beer depot in a small, but not old village. The village really developed when they brought a spur rail line through here in 1892. House from 1926 with the attached 1000 sq.ft depot, which serves as workshop and garage for The Monster. There is district heating, which is convenient, but too expensive but no Gas. So as I hate cooking with electrons, installed two 23 lbs. propane bottles outside and a Smeg stove top cooker - much better.

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20 KW Multi fuel fire in the Chimney fawr and another 6 KW of the same at the other end or bach. No central heating, stone walls, single glazing. I do have an internal soil stack so mod cons there but it all goes into a septic tank that never needs emptying. It looks after its self, bacterial action. No mains water, it comes out of the ground and then is pumped up the hill. Well it is when the electricity is on or the pump is working. Talking of electricity this house was only connected in the 1970s' the nearest village only connected in the early 1970s. No gas, I do have a phone. :rofl:

We were in advance of you. Electric in 1963 and water in 1964. Previously our electric came from a Lucas "Freelight" system. (For those who don't know - 12v lorry dynamo with a twin bladed prop on a telegraph pole, 12v full size light bulbs, two batteries and a car radio in a smart wooden box) Water was from a stream.

I would go for a wind generator again if I had the capital to spare, £25,000 plus the battery storage. What the electric suppliers and HMG don't understand, if they gave decent grants for rural home generation, they would not need these major reinforcements of the grid and the additional generation equipment. An offshore wind turbine may supply x00 houses but the same money given to x00 plus 10 rural sites would be a far better solution.

I now use Calor Gas for cooking, Oil for heating and HW plus a 5 Kw multifuel which heats all the living areas.

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Terfyn said, "What the electric suppliers and HMG don't understand, if they gave decent grants for rural home generation, they would not need these major reinforcements of the grid and the additional generation equipment. An offshore wind turbine may supply x00 houses but the same money given to x00 plus 10 rural sites would be a far better solution."

that is exactly what I have been saying for years. No need for turbines spoiling the countryside of mega billion £ off shore installations. All small village/communities farms could have their own for local supply. No transmission line losses. Factory sites industrial estates and so on.

Agerbundsen,

Quint is I? Is your brewery still working? :thumbup: The monster, is that your pet name for your Yeti?

octy888, I reside in Sir Ceredigion or County Ceredigion West Wales for those not acquainted with any Wesh. Some of the properties that i looked prior to buying this had no electricity other than what they could produce them selves such as what Terfyn described, tough I have seen some sophisticated generator sets with mod cons such as self start when sensing a load and battery storage with DC-AC converters and windmill + solar assist assists. We all think of our selves in the modern age but things that we so much take for granted have really not been there for the masses for all that long. In very rural areas like this some properties have only just received electricity and many still do not have. The septic tank system works very well. Supposedly if one reads the literature they should be pumped out periodically ever 5 years or so but we have never done it nor any of the other inhabitants. It literally looks after its self no need for maintenance. We just do not poor bleach down the toilet or sink as it cold kill the working bacteria. It really is very good. Ours is an ancient concrete block construction with different compartments. It settles out and excess fluid drains off the bacteriology does the rest. Comes out as water at the other end. It does not smell even in the hottest summers because that is when the little creatures work the fastest. Very rarely in the coldest winters a faint odour can be discerned i your close enough, that is because bacterial action is slowed but one never really notices it is that good smells. No smell when I went right up to it earlier today at all.

We thought our water pump had burned out the other night when I recorded temperatures down to - 15C. This temperature was confirmed by an official Weatherstaion at Sennybridge Brecon, Powys Mid Wales not that far away. Luckily on closer inspection it appears that the pump was saved by thermal cut out. It had sensed the tank needed filling but the pipes somewhere in the system are frozen, so it continued pumping. I have tried to get it primed and pumping again but without success as it must still be frozen somewhere. This means constant walks down the hill to where the water supply is a large concrete and brick tank which isits self supplied by a capped Spout. I say Spout a that is what the Ordinance Survey calls it as opposed to a spring which is normally a trickle. In the winter mine gushes out and forms a small stream

You may not have seen my earlier post but I have no mettled road to the house at all but a heavily rutted track from one end from down below some of which is bridleway and the other easier access is from the top which is literally across open fields for some of the way, that is no hard surface for about one third and the rest rutted farm track. It has been very difficult at times in some winters. Although I have my own land the accesse tracks run for about a mile each and they go over land owned by others so tractors and farm machinery often damages what there is.

I would happily give a better idea of where I live or even a post code. I have a unique Post Code no other property shares it. Just placing the code on a Goggle Map takes us direct to our farm. I would be quite happy to share this with you guys on our Yeti Forum but it has world wide access so I am a bit careful and paranoid perhaps with my approximations.

Mr The Plumber, TP, very funny, I am not quite that old, we use the two cup and string method :rofl:B) A good image of early telephony however. When we walk about here or try to get the water working we use two way radios, those multi channel ones. They are very good and will operate over quite some distance, far further than what the manufacturers state, even in this hilly location. Not as good as CB though but more manageable.

In the days before the mains electricity, all the farms had diesel generators. So around about 5.00AM (Milking time) these generators would splutter into life. They were mostly Lister water cooled. (A very distinctive sound) The could not be run continuously (too expensive on fuel - apart from the noise) so fridges and freezers were out of the question. Slate lined larders were the order of the day with the milk coolers operated by stream water. We rely too much on the continuous supply that the National Grid give us.

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