Hi guys,

I know this has been discussed in various posts with slightly different questions being asked but could someone clarify this for me...

Am I right in thinking that as standard the Yeti comes with a can of goo to fix a puncture? (car will be an Elegance 1.8TSi if that matters)

Am I right in thinking that you can specify a spare wheel when ordering?

If you specified this spare - would it be a space saver or a full size wheel?

I wanted to keep the boot as large as possible to be honest (I have no interest in the variable boot floor either) but it looks a good certainty that I will be taking the Yeti into Europe for a trip through France and Spain in the summer. I dont like the idea of doing this with just a can of goo in the boot so I want a proper spare - ideally full size!

What are my options?

Thanks in advance,

Lee

Hi guys,

I know this has been discussed in various posts with slightly different questions being asked but could someone clarify this for me...

Am I right in thinking that as standard the Yeti comes with a can of goo to fix a puncture? (car will be an Elegance 1.8TSi if that matters)

Am I right in thinking that you can specify a spare wheel when ordering?

If you specified this spare - would it be a space saver or a full size wheel?

I wanted to keep the boot as large as possible to be honest (I have no interest in the variable boot floor either) but it looks a good certainty that I will be taking the Yeti into Europe for a trip through France and Spain in the summer. I dont like the idea of doing this with just a can of goo in the boot so I want a proper spare - ideally full size!

What are my options?

Thanks in advance,

Lee

I certainly had to order a full sized spare for my Octy Elegance 1.8tsi - it was a space saver too. Better ask the dealer for the Yeti?

Standard wheel tyre for you is

7J 17" wheel 225/50R17 Tyre

16" Spare wheel with Jack 205/60 R16 Tyre

The spare is not full size! Skoda say it is but it is not! When using the spare speed is restricted to 50 mph 80km/h

I can not quite find the size of the spare it is here somewhere. "Mr Plumber" will have it.

Their is a recent thread discussing if it might be possible to fit a FULL SIZE SPARE

My link

Edited 5 January, 201016 yr by Anthony 1

195/60/R16 on the spare 215/60/R16 on my road wheels ('S' spec)

Edited 5 January, 201016 yr by weaver

Hi guys,

I know this has been discussed in various posts with slightly different questions being asked but could someone clarify this for me...

Am I right in thinking that as standard the Yeti comes with a can of goo to fix a puncture? (car will be an Elegance 1.8TSi if that matters)

Am I right in thinking that you can specify a spare wheel when ordering?

If you specified this spare - would it be a space saver or a full size wheel?

I wanted to keep the boot as large as possible to be honest (I have no interest in the variable boot floor either) but it looks a good certainty that I will be taking the Yeti into Europe for a trip through France and Spain in the summer. I dont like the idea of doing this with just a can of goo in the boot so I want a proper spare - ideally full size!

What are my options?

Thanks in advance,

Lee

The Yeti spare wheel is a full size as such, meaning a standard wheel and tyre. However, it is narrower and smaller in diameter than the wheels on the Yeti, so is restricted in speed, as the rolling diameter is less and track width different.

You can drive it for a significat distance, but not at speed. This is to reduce the height of the new floor of the boot.

The full size wheel and tyre will fit, but raises the boot floor more - see Aerofurb's pictures in other posts.

Edited 5 January, 201016 yr by Agerbundsen

195/60/R16 on the spare 215/60/R16 on my road wheels ('S' spec)

But these have different circumferences dont they?! Is that what we mean by not a full size spare? :S

edit - Ahh - just read the new post above

Edited 5 January, 201016 yr by FocusZtec

Hi guys,

I know this has been discussed in various posts with slightly different questions being asked but could someone clarify this for me...

Am I right in thinking that as standard the Yeti comes with a can of goo to fix a puncture? (car will be an Elegance 1.8TSi if that matters)

Am I right in thinking that you can specify a spare wheel when ordering?

If you specified this spare - would it be a space saver or a full size wheel?

I wanted to keep the boot as large as possible to be honest (I have no interest in the variable boot floor either) but it looks a good certainty that I will be taking the Yeti into Europe for a trip through France and Spain in the summer. I dont like the idea of doing this with just a can of goo in the boot so I want a proper spare - ideally full size!

What are my options?

Thanks in advance,

Lee

Hi Lee,

UK spec Yeti's do indeed only come supplied with a can of tyre weld.

You can opt for a spare at just over £50. It is smaller than the normal 225/50/17 or 215/60/16 driving wheels, being a 195/60/16 tyre fitted to a 6J 16 rim. Therefore there is a speed limit of 50mph recommended due to the smaller size.

You could call it a space saver but at the same time it is a full size wheel, not one of those real skinny things you get with a VW.

There is no wheel well to speak off, so you do lose some boot space; with seats up your looking at 322 ltrs as opposed to 416 without the spare. Takes up about the same space as the variable boot floor you mention but you do get storage boxes either side of the spare.

Have this option myself and the boot is still better than my previous Golf V.

Regards,

TP

I think my questions now have answers!

Thanks very much,

Lee

No, different width. The spare is 195mm wide instead of 215mm wide, or when lying on it's side in the boot 20mm shorter than full size.

Edit: got there in the end.

Edited 5 January, 201016 yr by weaver

But these have different circumferences dont they?! Is that what we mean by not a full size spare? :S

edit - Ahh - just read the new post above

It contravenes the Trade Description Act, I beleive because it is a misrepresentation. Using the spare has implications.

The reason why space saver is limited to 50mph is not speed or payload related, but related to handling due to the taller wall, narrower width and mixed tyre compound on same axial.

A 225/50 17 is only 2.5mm smaller in OD than the 205/60 16 inch spare wheel.

Personally fired on a back wheel on a stright road I would not be overly worried about the 50mph speed, wouldn't go stupid but I'd imagine it would cruise at 70 mph fine.

Most people from a 4x4 background would be concerned by having different sized wheel/tyre combinations. Even in unsophisticated open differentials, the planetary gears would be doing overtime for prolonged periods compensating. Of course a differential is designed to accept temporary speed difference between wheels. However, prolong and magnify that difference the components are going to get hot, worn and damaged, not leas, all the little bearings inside the differentials going to get overheated and wear out prematurely. Add in the complexities of the Haldex differentials with components such as friction plates, then I am sure that it will be seen that the life time of the differential will be compromised. I would be very unhappy, to travel anything other than a very short distance, with dissimilar tyre dimensions. Perhaps, possibly it may not be a problem within warranty period, who knows but for anyone keeping a vehicle for longer it should be of some concern. Also how can the electronic safety sensors do their job properly if their are already inaccuracies being fed to the chassis ECU. It is just bad practice. One might well be able to drive above the recommended speed limit advised by the manufacturer but it could very well invalidate any warranty and will almost certainly invalidate ones road insurance, because it is written in black and white, not to exceed the imposed limit.

Better to get a spare wheel, even if you lose bit of space in the boot. If you pester your dealer (as I did) he will throw it in as a freebee.

If you have a puncture and use the "can of goo" , when you eventually get to the mechanic for the repair , he may refuse the job as he'll have to scrape the goo from the inside of the tyre first - or charge you extra for the repair.

Aleks

See the photos in the Yeti Group on Flickr.

TP has kindly photographed a full size alloy in the spare wheel well so we can see how much higher it sticks up.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/skodayeti/

tom

Am I showing my age! What about run flats?

i think that their is plenty to say about run flats! I doubt it is an age thing though

On 1/5/2010 at 18:33, Anthony 1 said:

Most people from a 4x4 background would be concerned by having different sized wheel/tyre combinations. Even in unsophisticated open differentials, the planetary gears would be doing overtime for prolonged periods compensating. Of course a differential is designed to accept temporary speed difference between wheels. However, prolong and magnify that difference the components are going to get hot, worn and damaged, not leas, all the little bearings inside the differentials going to get overheated and wear out prematurely. Add in the complexities of the Haldex differentials with components such as friction plates, then I am sure that it will be seen that the life time of the differential will be compromised. I would be very unhappy, to travel anything other than a very short distance, with dissimilar tyre dimensions. Perhaps, possibly it may not be a problem within warranty period, who knows but for anyone keeping a vehicle for longer it should be of some concern. Also how can the electronic safety sensors do their job properly if their are already inaccuracies being fed to the chassis ECU. It is just bad practice. One might well be able to drive above the recommended speed limit advised by the manufacturer but it could very well invalidate any warranty and will almost certainly invalidate ones road insurance, because it is written in black and white, not to exceed the imposed limit.

 

Width of tyre isn't the issue, it's the circumference that will affect the differential.

 

Here are the numbers. Looks like the 195/65 R16 is the closest. 

 

225/50 R17 - The tyre size on my Yeti. 

Diameter = 657.86 mm 

Circumference = (πxd) = 2,066.73 mm

 

195/60 R16:

Diameter =  640.08 mm

Circumference = (πxd)  = 2010.87 mm

 

195/65 R16:

Diameter =  660.40mm

Circumference = (πxd)  = 2072.71 mm

No point in carrying a spare  195/60r16  then? this is making me wonder if having to have a haldex pump recently replaced  under warranty could have been linked to driving some 70 miles on a motorway at the recommended 50mph with the spare wheel fitted?

Tricky I think; If the normal tyres are more than half worn (EG more than 4mm tread worn off, then I calculate that a 195/60 is nearer the correct size - even more so if the spare is pumped to a slightly higher pressure than normal (as suggested in the manual);

 

Using the figures in the gjscott's post (not checked)

 

half worn tyre  diameter = 657.86 - 8  = 649.86 mm  

 

195/65  10.54 mm diam oversize

 

195/60  = 9.78 mm diam undersize

 

Maybe Skoda reckon that you are more likely to need the spare when the tyres are less than half worn?

 

Jim

Edited 4 March, 20179 yr by muddyjim

Sad555,

where do you find the recommendation to drive at 50 mph on a motorway with a Spare fitted with a MAX 50 mph marked on it.

 

Many would use their common sense, leave the motorway or not go on it, use the alternative roads that are there for Non Motorway Traffic 

and travel as short a distance that they can at a sensible and safe speed.

Maybe to a Tyre Fitting Centre if one was available.

http://kouki.co.uk/utilities/visual-tyre-size-calculator 

Edited 4 March, 20179 yr by Awayoffski

WELL SPOTTED AWAYOFFSKI.but 50 max is 50 max,  50 on the speedo,so proberly about 47mph so WITHIN the max permitted  50 MPH but I would imagine there would be a small tolerance anyway,perhaps this is why the 195/65/16r is NOW supplied.And I did take the shortest route home also using A and B  roads with advice from the AA when telling him my route home. When you break down at night your options are limited ,also you could be driving at 70mph with a std size 17 inch tyre at 1.7 tread depth on one rear tyre and the other 3 at 6-7 MM depth and still be driving legally and to manufacture spec.If I find myself in a similar situation again I would be asking the breakdown service to be carried home because it is not specified in the manual that this could cause an adverse effect on the haldex IF this is why the 50 MAX IS SPECIFIED BUT if 195/60 or 65/16r is supplied on vehicles with 16 in wheels as std the circumference will be the same anyway so the 50 max would appear to be for the difference in the steel wheel width,what other reason could it be and if the spare was fitted and the other tyres were towards the 1.6mm depth a similar situation will occur with the different circumference,50 max is specified on the wheel but no reason is supplied so I would be interested to know because it's a standard tyre with a  steel wheel and std speed rating not one of the slim type with no real tread.also the handbook does not give specific distance to travel with a spare fitted as obviously some "specialist garages "in other countries  could be hundreds of miles away.hope you can advise.

Edited 4 March, 20179 yr by Sad555

I carry 2 spare wheels so that i have a pair to fit when on trips in areas where Bank Holiday weekends or the Wee Frees might mean no spare tyres available.

That mean Directional tyres on are sorted, because even with a matching spare wheel but a directional tyre or winter tyres there is a 50/50 chance of puncturing and having a suitable tyre.

I would slow down anyway with a temp spare wheel/tyre, haldex or with full time 4x4's or any vehicle if an odd tyre, Old, New, Worn or just different was being put on a vehicle.

 

Must have missed all that in the handbook

!but it does state only drive with ONE spare wheel fitted.(Skoda spare I presume)

Do you need a handbook to explain to use common sense when it comes to tyres, tyre pressures and tyre sizes & an explanation with AWD's.?

 

Best not because sometimes even the best advice gets lost in translation, even German, Spanish & Czech to English, or American English.

Some older Korean Owners Manuals translated to English are particularly untrustworthy.