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1 minute ago, juan27 said:

So the Yeti doesn't really have a spare wheel well? Is that right?

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    I watched the AA do my tyre so I could drive it to a kwik fit for permanent repair (Company car so had to use them!) Looked easy enough, and is a standard method now used by recovery companies so that

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    I'm not saying you can't use them to temporarily fill a hole in an emergency - indeed if that's the standard AA method I'm sure you can use them for emergency roadside repairs, the AA will have resear

  • Width of tyre isn't the issue, it's the circumference that will affect the differential.   Here are the numbers. Looks like the 195/65 R16 is the closest.    225/50 R17 - The tyre

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2 hours ago, juan27 said:

So the Yeti doesn't really have a spare wheel well? Is that right?

 

Correct, there is NO spare wheel well in the floor.

It has a slight shaped recess to locate a tyre if the spare kit is fitted. This is filled with a foam pad to give a flat floor in cars with no spare.

The box to the right of the tyre doesn't fit moving from 4x4 to 2wd.  Not terrible!!  The cover is an inch or two too short as well.

 

Question is - moved the tyre from 4x4 to 2wd 1.2 - is this the same type of tyre?  I thought a tyre is a tyre - hehehe!!!

Unlikely to be the same type, brand or even size of tyre as the 4 on the car, but will do as a temporary spare.

So look at the tyres on the car and see what they are, look at the sizes and say what they are.

Thanks...temp spare is all I need.  Just so long as it could get me going if need be.

3 hours ago, twoladies said:

The box to the right of the tyre doesn't fit moving from 4x4 to 2wd.  Not terrible!!  The cover is an inch or two too short as well.

 

Question is - moved the tyre from 4x4 to 2wd 1.2 - is this the same type of tyre?  I thought a tyre is a tyre - hehehe!!!

 

Oh?  All my wheels, inc the OEM spare, were switched by the dealer from my previous 4x4 to the current 2x4 (see sig below).  As far as I can remember, nothing had to be adapted in any way.  I'll try to remember to have a look. 

48 minutes ago, twoladies said:

Thanks...temp spare is all I need.  Just so long as it could get me going if need be.

 

Just remember that the silly narrow temporary spare wheels are not approved for fitting to a Yeti, and could easily get you into a lot of (expensive) trouble.

3 hours ago, twoladies said:

 

 

Question is - moved the tyre from 4x4 to 2wd 1.2 - is this the same type of tyre?  

 

Do you mean you moved the spare from a 4x4 to 2wd? the spares should be the same size on those two models. What size is written on the side of your spare tyre? It should normally be 195/60R16

Afternoon All

 

Just picked up my 2016 1.2 TSI Yeti on Thursday evening. I have a few questions regarding the foam around the spare wheel I'd like to throw out. 

 

I have the spare wheel fitted. I see all the tools fitted in a foam moulding that sits under the wheel. The foam parts that surround the wheel, anyone know what all the moulded shapes are meant to house?

 

First of all I had to deal with the poor repair the dealer had done:

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There was a small moulded unit on the bottom tray:

 

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Directly on top of that was another moulded section, containing absolutely nothing:

 

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When the lid is down it doesn't fit particular well. Is this the case for everyone that has this fitted?

 

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As has already been mentioned, it takes up a fair bit of height. Does anyone have a photo of the height of the standard floor, with just the basic gunk and compressor fitted?

 

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Many thanks!

 

ps. not related to the floor, but just noticed the rear centre seat belts...... how are they meant to work> is there a part of the harness missing?

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AFAIK the curved cutout with the lump on the end is for the removable tow hitch.  Why you have it in both boxes I'm not sure (come to think, I believe one of them is actually the winding handle for the jack - see next point.

 

At least some of the other cutouts are for the scissor jack, wheel brace etc that should come with the spare wheel.  I think the square cutout is for the electric pump that you don't get if you have spare wheel.

 

The raised boot floor fits nice and snug on my 2017 SEL 4x4 with spare wheel, as did the one in my 2010 Elegance 4x4 too.

 

The belt for the centre rear seat rolls away into the roof towards the nearside of the car (I often have to tell my passengers to look upwards over their left shoulder and pull it down with their right hand!)  There are two buckle clips, one on the end of the belt and a mid-point one to form the lap belt.  The use of this belt is described in the owner's manual.

If you remove the plastic "boxes" then the wooden floor will be unsupported and could easily break, so I wouldn't remove them.

As has been said the cut outs are for the tow bar; does your car have the tow bar but has the previous owner not included it?

Centre seat belt: pull down from the roof where the clip is held by a magnet, then it is quite obvious how it fits. One clip goes across body, other to the second buckle.

You are welcome to come up to near Looe next weekend and I'll show you how it all works.

Edited by Llanigraham

Thank you both for responding. I see the seat belt in the roof now - I feel dumb now for asking :-)

ive just looked at my pics again, rotated them and of course they are for tow hitches. It’s weird that two cut outs are available for tow hitches when there was never one fitted.

So, if I got rid of the spare completely I assume I would need an entirely different boot floor? Assuming I did that, does it lay flat and run seemlessly into the rear seating area?

9 hours ago, Llanigraham said:

 

Just remember that the silly narrow temporary spare wheels are not approved for fitting to a Yeti, and could easily get you into a lot of (expensive) trouble.

This is my full size spare from 4x4 moved to 2wd.  Sounds as though it should be OK. When it goes in for a service I will ask them to check.  BTW although its only 1.2 you are all correct in saying its lively enough!!  Nice to drive except for having to put my foot on the brake to start it and having to remember to turn off the stop/start.  Very irritating!!

59 minutes ago, twoladies said:

This is my full size spare from 4x4 moved to 2wd.  Sounds as though it should be OK. When it goes in for a service I will ask them to check.  BTW although its only 1.2 you are all correct in saying its lively enough!!  Nice to drive except for having to put my foot on the brake to start it and having to remember to turn off the stop/start.  Very irritating!!

 

In that case you have nothing to worry about, the spare wheels are the same no matter what size engine, transmission or drive system.

20 hours ago, NeverBuyaLRDisco said:

 

 

ps. not related to the floor, but just noticed the rear centre seat belts...... how are they meant to work> is there a part of the harness missing?

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Pull the belt down from the roof lining housing, and click end into the nearside middle seat buckle. (Make sure it goes in the right way around) Then when someone uses it, pull the other loose buckle across their lap to clip into the offside middle seat buckle to create a 3 point harness. This is a neat solution which keeps it out of the way when not needed, but it could be left clipped into the seat buckle all the time if used frequently.

Regarding the query about the two tow hitch boxes, could it be that the previous owner asked for a spare wheel kit after the car had been ordered/delivered with a slime kit?  It looks like the bottom tray was for a pump and gunk kit originally, intended to sit below the lower floor of the non-spare boot floor.  Could the first dealer have just taken out the old floor and thrown it away, swiped the pump, and gunk, to sell off as "new" spares from their parts dept, and then plonked the polystyrene tray for the spare wheel kit on top of the old one.

 

I'd imagine the tow bar outline is a red herring, it's probably a standard moulding (perhaps depending on year or production plant).  Mine is a used 4x4 FL yeti with 1 previous owner and no towbar fitting yet the deep polystyrene box had a space for one.  Some pics I've seen though don't seem to have this moulded in towbar space?  Or perhaps it depends on whether it was a factory fit or dealer fit?  Maybe there is only one box style if ordered as a retrofit?

Hi widdershins

 

Who knows. The whole thing is a mystery to me. It all seems like a lot of unnecessary polystyrene to me.

 

So I guess that because I have the spare wheel kit fitted,without removing that raised floor, there is no way I can simply remove the spare wheel and gubbings and have a flat floor? I would have to unscrew the flooring and totally remove it? And all of this just to sake Skoda a few quid for each car? PITA!!

That’s right, but there isn’t too much to remove if you are only going to do it once. Benefit of no spare wheel is a 1/3 increase in boot space which - I can attest to - makes a huge difference to carrying capacity. Downside is no spare wheel in case of emergency BUT you have to ask yourself if you would risk your life to change the wheel by the side of a fast moving road? Extremely dangerous activity. Personally I will call the AA and wait in a safe place, but I am retired so generally not too pressed for time!

When there is no spare fitted, there is a small foam insert to fill in the slight recess into which the tyre sits, and then a flat board over with carpet on. You get a flat floor more or less all the way to where the backs seats hinge on their mountings. You could shape a block of foam from a larger sheet left over from packaging or similar. It only about 25mm high at most.

You wouldn't need the carpet floor if you bought a genuine Skoda rubber boot mat. Mine came out of the 2010 yeti I had and is still going strong with no noticebale wear or damage after more than 9 years use. If you sold your complete spare kit to another Yeti owner, you could easily afford the mat, or indeed take his foam insert and floor as part of the deal! Not sure if cars with spares come with a pump, but they are not expensive.

 

The main reason not to fit spares is not cost saving, as Skoda would happily sell you a new car with spare (except on the greenline), but to improve the co2 emmissions of that make of car overall to look better. Hence the Greenline was £30 tax, but had a spare been optional that would have pusghed the greenline into the next tax bracket. Similalry although I had a Greenline Elegance trim, I could not have had a sunroof as that increased the weight significantly.

 

I agree with expatman about the risks of changing a wheel at the side of the road. In over 130k miles in a Yeti, I have had two puncutes. The first on the A38 and I had to drive on the flat tyre to a safe place to stop and destroyed it. The second was me finding it flat on the drive and the AA came out and repaired it with a plug kit where the nail had been. So at the time expense of two punctures I have had to wait i hour for the AA to turn up and get me going again, and not had to lug the heavy spare around.

These plug kits are only about £10 off ebay or amazon and could repair a large percentage of punctures at the roadside, at least enough to get you home or to a kwik fit etc.

Edited by kenfowler3966

That's interesting.

 

I'm actually picking up a Skoda rubber mat this Friday from dealer (along with cill covers.) I may have a play around with that if you think the mat is supportive enough.

 

Other than on my old Vespa scooter, I don't recall ever having a puncture. As someone said further up this thread, it would be the'Law of Sod' that I took the spare out and got a puncture. I was just thinking about on the odd occasion I want to shift some stuff in the back of the car. For short journeys it may be worth the no-spare gamble. 

 

Interesting reasoning on the different extras fitted. Makes sense though...... assuming you have got your head around the 'new' car tax band system :-)

32 minutes ago, kenfowler3966 said:

When there is no spare fitted, there is a small foam insert to fill in the slight recess into which the tyre sits, and then a flat board over with carpet on. You get a flat floor more or less all the way to where the backs seats hinge on their mountings. You could shape a block of foam from a larger sheet left over from packaging or similar. It only about 25mm high at most.

You wouldn't need the carpet floor if you bought a genuine Skoda rubber boot mat. Mine came out of the 2010 yeti I had and is still going strong with no noticebale wear or damage after more than 9 years use. If you sold your complete spare kit to another Yeti owner, you could easily afford the mat, or indeed take his foam insert and floor as part of the deal! Not sure if cars with spares come with a pump, but they are not expensive.

 

The main reason not to fit spares is not cost saving, as Skoda would happily sell you a new car with spare (except on the greenline), but to improve the co2 emmissions of that make of car overall to look better. Hence the Greenline was £30 tax, but had a spare been optional that would have pusghed the greenline into the next tax bracket. Similalry although I had a Greenline Elegance trim, I could not have had a sunroof as that increased the weight significantly.

 

I agree with expatman about the risks of changing a wheel at the side of the road. In over 130k miles in a Yeti, I have had two puncutes. The first on the A38 and I had to drive on the flat tyre to a safe place to stop and destroyed it. The second was me finding it flat on the drive and the AA came out and repaired it with a plug kit where the nail had been. So at the time expense of two punctures I have had to wait i hour for the AA to turn up and get me going again, and not had to lug the heavy spare around.

These plug kits are only about £10 off ebay or amazon and could repair a large percentage of punctures at the roadside, at least enough to get you home or to a kwik fit etc.

Anyone used one of these plug kits? Could be useful in an "if all else fails" situation - but how easy are they to use?

1 hour ago, kenfowler3966 said:

...I have had two puncutes.

 

oooo sounds nasty...... Can you get a cream for that?   :biggrin:

Edited by muddyjim

One point I noticed with the middle seatbelt is the two buckles are different  to each other so you can't do it up wrong.

 

The polystyrene box in the photo with the large round hole I think is for vehicles that use Ad-blue and if so the moulding underneath would be different or not fitted, hence the reason for having the towball shape in the upper box.

The boxes I have on mine; the lower one has the towball shape like in the photo but the upper one is just plain box shaped with a slot for a warning triangle.

The Jack and tools are in a moulding that fits inside the spare wheel.

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