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Suddenly my turbo has developed a loud screeching noise under load, there is also loads of oil all over the back of the engine block and a nasty flat spot in the rev range.

Skoda's verdict - FUBAR'd turbo - £1700+ to fit another one of their shabby refurb units, the current turbo (number 2) was fitted 45,000 miles and 13 months ago - crap. :swear:

I have sourced a hybrid from Turbo Technics for £636 all in with my old duffer as exchange which I though was very good.

I don't have the facilities to fit it myself so where would the best place be to get it fitted? I am in West Sussex, not far from Worthing but will travel if the price is good enough and the turbo doesn't let go.

I would think the main dealer would want about £400 to fit it.

How long to fit a new turbo? a few hours maybe?

Is this a PD140?

I see they haven't fixed the problem yet.

I'd be reluctant to pay out for yet another OEM part.

...I don't have the facilities to fit it myself so where would the best place be to get it fitted? I am in West Sussex, not far from Worthing but will travel if the price is good enough and the turbo doesn't let go.

I would think the main dealer would want about £400 to fit it.

How long to fit a new turbo? a few hours maybe?

Trip to JKM I guess, assuming the price is right?

Trip to JKM I guess, assuming the price is right?

Was just about to say the same thing myself

Carl :thumbup:

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Yes, its a PD 140 - second cylinder head, second tandem pump, second flywheel and soon to be third turbo :thumbdown:

I've purchased a Hybrid from Turbo Technics, £620ish with an exchange - I don't want another crappy OEM unit in my car.

Main dealers are looking for about £450 with gaskets, a local indy Skoda garage quoted £246 for the labour but they are booked up for over 2 weeks, my car will be an SDI by then :giggle:

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Ok, next question -

How hard is it to change the turbo yourself and what parts are needed or recommended?

I've got most kinds of tools that would probably be required.

Are these a common failure then?

Maybe I will get a company car again rather than buy one!

Does the same happen with the CR unit?

Steve

Are these a common failure then?

Maybe I will get a company car again rather than buy one!

Does the same happen with the CR unit?

Steve

It's a fairly common failure , yes.

I don't think it's an issue with the CR170 and the octy hasn't had the CR140 IIRC

If it is less than 2 years and you paid for the turbo last time it is covered by 2 years parts guarantee.

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I would hope VAG have learnt from the BKD PD140 - problematic from the start to finish of it's production run.

It's completely put me off another one next time to be honest. E61 for me next :thumbup:

In the meantime I am seriously thinking of a DIY change, my parents have the facilities necessary for such a job come to think of it. Dealer states 4.5 hours.

Your normal "nuts & bolts" tools should remove & refit a turbo. Manifold is held on to the head via nuts on studs. Two hose connections (intake pipe & boost pipe) are clips and downpipe connection is a nut/bolt arrangement. One vacuum hose on actuator to pull off & push on. 2 oil lines (feed & drain) to remove & refit. I would imagine for a normal garage with all the gear, it would be around 3.5 hours solid labour?

Could factor in some r&r type work such as sanding down the exhaust outlets on the head a little to de-gunk it before fitting the new exhaust gasket. Also worth doing the same on the exhaust downpipe flange as going to be mated to a clean turbo. Bit of exhaust paste to seal too would be good. Also it's pretty wise to check the actuator rod is setup exactly the same as the old one as differences can lead to overboost / lacking boost due to the vnt mechanism not working right. :)

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Thanks Jason, I was thinking it might not be a complicated job in itself - just a tad awkward seeing as its stuffed up behind the block. I'll order up a gasket set from the dealer tomorrow :thumbup:

Make sure you replace the turbo feed pipes too as if they are not quite right then any problem with the oil feed is going to see this turbo dead again too.

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Cheers :thumbup: I'll order those up as well as the gasket set.

As cheezemonkhai stated, you must replace the oil feed line. Any warranty on the new turbo will probably be void if you don't do this

Make sure you have a can of PlusGas (dismantling fluid) and a small wire brush to hand. It is just so good at freeing stuck nuts or nuts on studs.

When you have mounted the new turbo, it is important to fill it with oil before connecting the oil feed line.

A mate of mine has just done a similar job and it took about 5 hours. He's not that handy and whilst I was keeping an eye on him, he did all the work.

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Thanks for all of the advice thus far :thumbup:

I'll get all of the bits ordered from the dealer.

I was thinking about whether to pre fill the turbo or let the engine do it on idle but I didn't like the idea of it spinning totally dry even if for a second or two.

Is there any specific sealant recommended for certain connections like the oil feed and return piping connections for instance?

I work on large water chillers and air conditioners all day every day so I am good with hands on things generally but never had to tinker with cars too much after my trusty old 1989 Fiat Panda :giggle:

I have a good second hand turbo with only 17k on it for £200. Check it out on ebay.

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Too late i'm afraid, the hybrid is winging its way to me as we speak ;)

And to be honest I don't fancy another standard turbo under the bonnet and the hybrid paves the way nicely to a remap in the future :yes:

I have a good second hand turbo with only 17k on it for £200. Check it out on ebay.

Hi, I can't find this on ebay, can you post a link to the listing, thats reasonable to have as a spare whilst waiting for the inevitable to happen !!

Never buy a modern Diesel if you plan saving money.

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Never buy a modern Diesel if you plan saving money.

I hear that!

My car is nicknamed 'the bottomless money pit' :thumbdown:

I wonder what is next to go wrong on it? There isn't much left these days that hasn't been replaced.

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Been down to the dealership and ordered the parts I'll need:

1K0253725 - Clip

1K0253115T - Gasket

038131547A - Gasket

028145757 - Gasket

03L253039B - Gasket - Exhaust manifold to cylinder head - 1 piece

038145771AG oil feed pipe.

The spigot from the turbo body to the oil feed pipe connection has been fitted to the new turbo which is good.

Basically the parts are:

Manifold to EGR feed pipe gasket

Manifold to Head gasket

Oil drain pipe gasket

Downpipe gasket

Downpipe clamp/clip

Oil feed pipe

Hopefully they will be in at about 9 tomorrow so I can crack on with replacing the damn thing.

The new turbo arrived at 11 this morning - not bad considering I ordered it at 4:15 yesterday afternoon.

Was the last turbo fitted and supplied by a main dealer? Surely if so you have a 2 year warranty on it?

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Yes it was fitted under warranty by a main dealer but the car itself is now well out of warranty and the part was fitted about 13 months ago. The Skoda warranty terms state that all parts fitted have a 2 year/ unlimited warranty but any part fitted under the vehicle's own warranty are only covered for that remaining period or i'm assuming 12 months.

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