Confused-please Explain

[Auric Goldfinger]

My Furbie vRS has ASR. Some (Ibelive) also have ESP and MSR.

How can I tell what mine actually has and how do they work?,

The Handbook doesn't really help :confused:

[mannyo]

Look at the button on the dash, it will be labelled appropriatly. If I recall ESP is an optional extra, so if you didnt specify it your car will have ASR.

[Auric Goldfinger]

Look at the button on the dash, it will be labelled appropriatly. If I recall ESP is an optional extra, so if you didnt specify it your car will have ASR.

Thanks Manny.... ....I have found some old posts on the subject. I have ASR on the dash so I presume thats all I have. All must have MSR then :confused:

[Chavyboy]

OK mine has ESP (Electronic Stability Program) and ASR (traction control) but there is only one button on the dash which is labelled ESP, ESP and ASR work together so switch one off and the other one is off by default.

[ap0gee1978]

Yeah, ASR and MSR are standard, ESP is an option. ASR (Automatic Skid Reduction) is basic traction control, which helps stop wheelspin (but not if only one wheel is spinning like when you need to get out if a junction quickly, in my experience). MSR (Motor Skid Reduction) just prevents you skidding from engine braking if you change down to too low a gear by mistake (dunno how, though... :confused: ) I think it's standard on all Fabias, and you can't turn it off, so there isn't a button. ESP (Electronic Stability Programme) is kind of 'Traction Control Plus'. As well as helping to stop wheelspin by limiting the power going to the front wheels, it can supposedly stop you sliding sideways into things if you go round corners too fast by selectively braking one or more wheels independently. It's probably only worthwhile getting it if you drive really fast on dodgy public roads (I'm not saying you should drive really fast on dodgy public roads ). For those who like to drive fast on track days, I imagine that it (and the ASR) would be switched off by most people... TBH, as mentioned above, I've found that ASR isn't foolproof anyway, and there's no substitute for a bit of discipline with the ol' Right Foot

[thegeesta]

Or buy now?! What are people's experience of ESP? I would hope you haven't experienced the air bags?!

[Tech1e]

I have neither side air bags or ESP, dont miss either. Of course I may miss side air bags in the event of a side impact but my car was a demo so i didnt choose the spec so to speak.

But im happy

[tavia4x4]

Didn't realise you were such a local ag.morley... I'm sure you enjoy the car over rivington

[Neo_VR]

Didn't realise you were such a local ag.morley... I'm sure you enjoy the car over rivington

oooo rivington.. thats where i went sideways+airborne in a 1.0l nova just after passing my test

[killertox]

ESP coordinates ASR, MSR and ABS for optimized driving on slippery roads.

When deactivating ESP or one other, the rest is not coordinated.

[logiclee]

Anyone know why EDL was left off the vRS Furby when it's on all the other 1.9 TDi's?

Really helps prevent one wheel spinning the torque away.

Cheers

Lee

[Hicksy]

I had ESP on my previous car... Y reg Ibiza Cupra, only felt it work a few times but it did prevent me from bushing my car!

braking on corners going fast on a road you don't know, oh how we learn the hard way!!

[redbaron]

not a fan of either system if you are trying to go quick.. much more use when you are tired and not paying attention.... then they can save a bump.

[barrie502]

ESP coordinates ASR' date=' MSR and ABS for optimized driving on slippery roads.

When deactivating ESP or one other, the rest is not coordinated.[/quote']

Sounds convincing but not quite true. Esp works by braking selected wheels and reducing engine power. It is not just co oridinating the other systems, the ability to actively brake wheels is unique to esp equipped cars. The system works under all road conditions to deal with manouvres where loss of control may occur - not just slippery roads.