Still chasing my build and delivery date on the ordered 2.0 TDi SE. Dealer told me today that it was "very likely" that Skoda would be swapping from the 2.0 TDi (110 bhp) to the 1.6 TDi (105 bhp) "soon" and that by the time I got mine the engine may have changed. Apart from the missing "are you happy with that sir?" does anyone know if this rumour has any foundation?

I discounted a couple of other Yeti versions because I didn't like the sound the engine made and I'd be very wary of taking on a different engine without the chance to try it.

Thanks

Hi,

not come across this one myself, although there has been speculation for some time regard the possibility of a 1.6 TDI CR 105 'Greenline'. Just had a look at the VW Passat range and it's still using 2.0 CR 110 alongside the 1.6 Cr 105 on the eco freindly 'BlueMotion' trim.

Regards,

TP

Wouldn't that make it almost a completely different car, the dynamics must change, ie weight and performance etc and can they change it without you having driven it first to see if you happy with noise levels, power etc ?

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Still chasing my build and delivery date on the ordered 2.0 TDi SE. Dealer told me today that it was "very likely" that Skoda would be swapping from the 2.0 TDi (110 bhp) to the 1.6 TDi (105 bhp) "soon" and that by the time I got mine the engine may have changed. Apart from the missing "are you happy with that sir?" does anyone know if this rumour has any foundation?

I discounted a couple of other Yeti versions because I didn't like the sound the engine made and I'd be very wary of taking on a different engine without the chance to try it.

Thanks

I know nothing and have heard no rumuors, but it would make some sense. The 2.0 TDI seems to be destined to even higher HP ratings than the current 170 hp. The new Passat is already rumoured to have a 220 hp version with twin turbo's. Since the base engine - block, crankshaft, main and connecting rod journals are of necessity all the same, they are likely designed for higher hp than at present, hence it is overkill for the 110 hp, and the 1.6 TDI would be smaller, lighter and cheaper to build. In the same "tune" as the 2.0 170, it should be good for eventually 140 hp+.

Reflecting back a little, in my youth, petrol engines for race cars were great at 100 hp/litre and 50 hp/ litre were sportscars.

My old 2.5 litre Mercedes 5 cylinder all mechanical diesel engine from 1986 had 88 hp - 35 hp/litre. It's "soul" more than made up for it, but you did need a calendar to measure acceleration and plan overtaking a loooong way ahead.

The 2.0 170hp Yeti is at 85 hp/litre as specified, but several measured on a rolling road at more than that. We are easily looking at everyday diesels of 100 hp/litre being common a few years from now.

Edited 12 June, 201016 yr by Agerbundsen

They might bring out the 1.6CR in the Yeti at a later date but they will be keeping the 2.0 engine too.

Wouldn't that make it almost a completely different car, the dynamics must change, ie weight and performance etc and can they change it without you having driven it first to see if you happy with noise levels, power etc ?

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Exactly and that's what's making me nervous. I've given the dealer until close of business today to give me firm build and delivery dates for the car as ordered or to return the deposit.

To be honest it's madness that four weeks in I still don't have either a build date or delivery date - there do seem to be a few cars out there in the network but without my deposit back I'm not prepared to deal elsewhere and, frankly, the experience so far with Skoda has been pretty poor since the dealer got my money so I will probably look elsewhere.

Exactly and that's what's making me nervous. I've given the dealer until close of business today to give me firm build and delivery dates for the car as ordered or to return the deposit.

To be honest it's madness that four weeks in I still don't have either a build date or delivery date - there do seem to be a few cars out there in the network but without my deposit back I'm not prepared to deal elsewhere and, frankly, the experience so far with Skoda has been pretty poor since the dealer got my money so I will probably look elsewhere.

It would be a shame if you did go elsewhere because the Yeti is a damn good car all problems aside, and I have spent the last 7 months trying other cars and still kept coming back to this one and even though I have a humungous wait (ordered beg May) it will be worth it in the end as I will get the car I want. Have a think and maybe try another dealer if that is the problem rather than the car itself. Hell, I had to go to Epsom from Somerset to get a dealer that actually gives the kind of service you expect when buying an expensive car. I still dont have a build date either for my car but hey ho I knew I was in for a long haul so i'm not worried, life goes on in the meantime and I cant influence it so I wont let it bother me. She will arrive eventually !!

Have a think m8

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I would welcome a 1.6 tdi Yeti to the range, especially if there is a DSG option. Come to think of it that sounds like an ideal combination for my next car.......

Autocar seem to like the 1.6 engine in the VW Touran tested in their latest issue.

I can see doubts as to a reduction in capacity but many 1.2 petrol Yeti owners seem to be quite happy with their cars. I was very surprised to hear of the move to this small engine size but all seems well.

Autocar seem to like the 1.6 engine in the VW Touran tested in their latest issue.

I can see doubts as to a reduction in capacity but many 1.2 petrol Yeti owners seem to be quite happy with their cars. I was very surprised to hear of the move to this small engine size but all seems well.

I have a 1.2 Yeti, and have driven a 1.6 tdi Golf.

The petrol drives more like a diesel low down, and the diesel more like a petrol....

The 1.6 has extremely poor pickup from very low revs, then delivers a chunk of torque, and is then very smooth and reasonably economical (the one I drove got average of 50mpg cruising at 80 - nothing exceptional).

The 1.2 is simply great - very responsive / torquey from low revs, but you can still thrash it if you like !

I tried both manual and DSG 1.2 petrol Yetis. The power delivery was fine, not neck-snapping but fine. What I couldn't handle was the intrusive whistling and the gruff note. I know some people aren't bothered but I was - that's life.

On my travels I've driven loads of 1.6 TDi hire cars - mainly Golfs but also Leons and A3s. It's not an engine I like at all, very rough and with poor power delivery so I'd be avoiding a Yeti with this engine like the plague.

All academic now, the dealer failed (yet again) to meet his commitment to my deadline so the deal is off and I'll be buying something else.

I tried both manual and DSG 1.2 petrol Yetis. The power delivery was fine, not neck-snapping but fine. What I couldn't handle was the intrusive whistling and the gruff note. I know some people aren't bothered but I was - that's life.

On my travels I've driven loads of 1.6 TDi hire cars - mainly Golfs but also Leons and A3s. It's not an engine I like at all, very rough and with poor power delivery so I'd be avoiding a Yeti with this engine like the plague.

All academic now, the dealer failed (yet again) to meet his commitment to my deadline so the deal is off and I'll be buying something else.

Yes but were they the PD or the newer CRD? The CRD is a very different drive to the PD.

As your first post about this was yesterday, I don't think that you gave the dealer very long to 'meet his commitment' and at a weekend too.

Edited 13 June, 201016 yr by Trevorminor

Oh Erm, Did someone mention a Yeti with DSG ( & prob the 1.6 CR)?

No definative rumours yet?

Sigh

I tried both manual and DSG 1.2 petrol Yetis. The power delivery was fine, not neck-snapping but fine. What I couldn't handle was the intrusive whistling and the gruff note. I know some people aren't bothered but I was - that's life.

That's interesting, we have a 1.2 and I test drove several demonstrators. None of which whistled at all and it's one of the smoothest/refined engines I've driven. Everybody whose been in the car has commented on the refinement - most of whom drive Audi's and Mercedes.

Agreed - it's so quiet around town, I find pedestrians can sometimes step out in front of you !

There is a whistle from the turbo if you listen but it is no worse than most and I quite like the accompanying little boost noise. I agree that the engine can sound a little gruff under load but then it is only a small four cylinder lump and not a perfectly balanced straight six. I have not found this an issue though because unless it is under load the engine is very quiet and at low revs barely audible.

Yes but were they the PD or the newer CRD? The CRD is a very different drive to the PD.

As far as I know there had never been a PD 1,6. It is a totally new CR only engine. But I have also heard it is defo an engine to avoid at all costs.

But I have also heard it is defo an engine to avoid at all costs.

Why?

Why?

There was a thread on here where quite a few people told about their experience with this engine in Golfs and other VAG cars. I think it was a thread about someone having to cancel his Yeti due to an extra unexpected baby and wanted a 1,6 TDI 5008 and conversation turned to the VAG version. I'm on iPhone now so can't search. But it sounded from more than one person (as per the person above's view) that it is gutless at low revs. Hates roudabouts for some reason too.

Yes but were they the PD or the newer CRD? The CRD is a very different drive to the PD.

As your first post about this was yesterday, I don't think that you gave the dealer very long to 'meet his commitment' and at a weekend too.

All current VAG diesels are CRDs as far as I know.

Anyway, though I may have only posted about this on Saturday we're now in week 6 of the saga. The car was ordered from the dealer on April 24th for July delivery and still has not been ordered from the factory. This is the fourth missed deadline to give me a firm delivery date, is business really that good?

Though a private car if this had gone well there was every chance that I'd move my company's business to them and Skoda (benefit of owning the company) but this attitude to customer service is unacceptable, I don't run my business like that and don't expect our suppliers to do so.

So cheerio Skoda, manufacturer of unhappy customers....

i can see your fustration in the dealer, as we ordered a yeti on april 1st!!....by the 26th of april, skoda uk said no such order number exists'......were now on a long wait indeed( told august)..so wasnt very happy to say the least, but we liked the yeti so much in both test drives, we didnt want to change our minds' hope we made the right decision, care to name your bad dealer???

The VWAudi forum has plenty of testimonials for the smoothness of the 1.6 CR TDI in the Golf. It received average reviews in the Polo but not for the larger vehicles. I would certainly consider one in a Yeti.

Why not test drive a Golf with the 1,6 CR TDI engine or an Octavia ?

All current VAG diesels are CRDs as far as I know.

Anyway, though I may have only posted about this on Saturday we're now in week 6 of the saga. The car was ordered from the dealer on April 24th for July delivery and still has not been ordered from the factory. This is the fourth missed deadline to give me a firm delivery date, is business really that good?

Though a private car if this had gone well there was every chance that I'd move my company's business to them and Skoda (benefit of owning the company) but this attitude to customer service is unacceptable, I don't run my business like that and don't expect our suppliers to do so.

So cheerio Skoda, manufacturer of unhappy customers....

Reckon you got off light mate, my experience with the Yeti has been abysmal.

Still chasing my build and delivery date on the ordered 2.0 TDi SE. Dealer told me today that it was "very likely" that Skoda would be swapping from the 2.0 TDi (110 bhp) to the 1.6 TDi (105 bhp) "soon" and that by the time I got mine the engine may have changed. Apart from the missing "are you happy with that sir?" does anyone know if this rumour has any foundation?

I discounted a couple of other Yeti versions because I didn't like the sound the engine made and I'd be very wary of taking on a different engine without the chance to try it.

Thanks

The 1.6CR 105 bhp would I think be an adequate replacement for the 2 litre 110 bhp in 2wd form, but I'm not sure it could deliver the extra torque the current 110bhp is tuned to deliver in the 4wd version (the current maximum outputs on the 1.6 are 105 bhpand 184lbs torque). It seems likely therefore that the 2l may remain for the 4wd variant.