I (and others) on the other hand don't see the value of the current apple range.

Yours and their personal opinions

I'm sorry to say this Carl, but I find it funny that you get up and assume we are making an affront on apple and their staff rather than just a set of comments based on our experiences of them

At the same time use terms such as windoze and slag off retail staff for not knowing everything.

Erm didnt you do the same over the (and i quote) "Was all rather pathetic and removed any genius tag very quickly." You also said this "Then to top it off tried to tell me how a storage enclosure worked, using as an example a product that I know very well for reasons obvious to anyone who knows my day job." So now you expect them to read a crystal ball as well. Did you actually tell the guy what your day job was?

Anyway, I doubt there is much point us going on any further as it's clear we don't see eye to eye on this.

I'm happy to accept that fact.

It not that we are not seeing Eye to Eye. Its the fact your saying i am an Apple lover and reckon everything Apple is the be all and end all. I have never said that all i said was for my needs they are perfect for ME and they will be for most people for normal computing needs in terms of reliabilty. I used the (so called Fanboi) term of Windoze as a joke. Surely sarcasm isn't lost on you is it

Edited 17 June, 201016 yr by vRSCarl

P.I.C.N.I.C.

Thats an intelligent response

I don't profess to be the most technical computer savvy person in the world. Far from it but i do know how to work a computer for basic needs. So i doubt very much it was P.I.C.N.I.C

You also said this "Then to top it off tried to tell me how a storage enclosure worked, using as an example a product that I know very well for reasons obvious to anyone who knows my day job." So now you expect them to read a crystal ball as well. Did you actually tell the guy what your day job was?

I made it very clear to the guy I knew what I was talking about on more than one occasion.

Also my comment said that people here who knew my day job would understand why guys (totally wrong) explanation would be annoying.

Thats an intelligent response

I don't profess to be the most technical computer savvy person in the world. Far from it but i do know how to work a computer for basic needs. So i doubt very much it was P.I.C.N.I.C

I think that kinda of confirms it really.

Overall I think if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck!

You really have to get over your illusion that you think I love windows, I don't!

Anyway, you know what, I can't be arsed, so to lighten things up.

http://www.foundsh*t.com/images/masked-bikini-apple-logo.jpg

replace the * with an i (ruddy swear filter)

Is this your next car?

Edited 17 June, 201016 yr by cheezemonkhai

Result :thumbup:

I actually got you to give up :rofl: :rofl:

Well you know what, I can't be arsed, so to lighten things up.

ruddy swear filter:

http://www.foundsh*t.com/images/masked-bikini-apple-logo.jpg

Looks better than the MS one :giggle:

Looks better than the MS one :giggle:

Ok so I can see the typo, but it's hardly worth of a fail banner.

I agree a nice arse never goes amis, so I'm guessing that's another file to add to the 64GB iPad you were trying to fill up :p

Seriously though, why do you think I'm an MS fan? I use the right tool for the job which actually involves MS less and less.

And yes I have given up (for now). There is only so long you can argue with a fanboi :p :p

Edited 17 June, 201016 yr by cheezemonkhai

I take it your joking and can see the MBP being used for the presentation :giggle:

I take it your joking and can see the MBP being used for the presentation :giggle:

They do office tools for the Mac and maybe it was to prove they could get windows running on a mac....

No ok, I admit it, that does look like a fairly epic fail.

They do office tools for the Mac and maybe it was to prove they could get windows running on a mac….

Yup i have Microsoft Office for Mac - which to be fair i hardly use as iWork does everything i need. I only got it when i switched over till i got used to iWork.

I'm still waiting for Tony's words of Wisdom.

No doubt he is going to shoot me down in Flames with some Microsoft Rhetoric :rofl:

I'm still waiting for Tony's words of Wisdom.

No doubt he is going to shoot me down in Flames with some Microsoft Rhetoric :rofl:

I think this sums up the apple side:

Thats not as good as the Bum Apple

Mad Steve did not use the MBP, by all accounts it was either left over by a previous presenter demoing orifice for mac, or provided by the venue owners.

I earn my living from a Windows Platform (server's not Desktops) and have nothing less than a torrid experience with my iMac, thankfully I never paid for it. Now it turns out the LogicBoard has gone pop in my MBP, it's covered by applecare so let's see what happens.

In an enterprise they just don't work from a management perspective and currently I am trying to get a bunch of mac's working with the quest extensions for Configuration Manager so there can be centralised management for the things.

My MBP has been 100% reliable apart from this, so am happy with that, even though I spend a lot of time boot camped to Win7, My previous iPhones where ok, just a little restricted in what you can can't do but the iMac is just ****e, and that is from experience. For the price you pay for the hardware, the warranty should be onsite and some genius should be in the Mac Mobile heading to me to fix it. The latest problem with the iMac is that the cooling fans are now only blowing on MAX after the last video firmware update.

All down to experiences, I would say that virtually every bad windows experience that I have been involved with has been down to misconfiguration or poor non branded hardware.

I hate the Mac smug brigade who don't accept it has faults and would buy any pile of crap because of the logo. My experience with the iMac, and apples lack of any real customer support has sealed their fate with me, hell I have even written to watchdog over it and they have written back asking for more information and evidence of the faults and repairs.

I am waiting for applecare to wriggle out of replacing the logicboard now.

Thats not as good as the Bum Apple

I agree, but unless someone wants to host it where the swear filter won't kill it....

Hey Carl, it's not Rhetoric, the ****e just "does not work", get yerself in the queue for a new £500 iPhone now lad, to go with the iTampon etc ... sorry iPad.

In the iPhone thread, someone posted it does not look like bad value on O2 contract ....... crikey, you have to be on £65 per month to get one for free, I got 2 x HTC desires free from T-Mobile with 1000 X network minutes on each handset and unlimited (8GB Cap) data on each for under £50 + VAT (all in, not per handset).

My current client has 14,700 workstations, all running Windows XP and 250 Mac's, I am managing all of the Windows PC's centrally using SCCM / SCOM, the Mac's require local management or a lot of scripting (but hopefully that will be sorted when I finish integrating the Quest SCCM extensions) I am using OSD to migrate all of the workstations to Windows 7, it will all be zero touch and they will be woken up automatically for using Wake on Lan, the OS will be deployed from a Golden image. I am sure there will be the odd glitch, but that's how I make my money.

My old Dell laptop needed a motherboard, it was under Warranty, they sent a dude out, he replaced the MB, tested it and went on his way, all at a customers site because I was not at home or in the office, with my MAC I have had to drop it off at an Apple Store, wait for diagnosis, wait for repair after authorisation. Dell, who are by no means perfect at all, had the guy out with the correct part the next day.

Tony,

I am not one of the Apple brigade that doesn't accept it has faults. I know it does. You ,pan enough about them

I just personally have never had a problem which is what I am basing my comments on. It's my experience just as you are basing your comments on your experience.

Oh and have a look at the cost of a Sim Free HTC Desire. They are £400 on play.com so I'll happily pay £500 for a iPhone 4 that has a better processor better screen and more memory :p

So take a chill pill as your gay milk float won't get you to hospital when you have a coronary

Edited 17 June, 201016 yr by vRSCarl

I am chilled, in fact I am so laid back I am horizontal, its you macboysthat need to chill.

Nowt wrong with the Eco chariot either, it gets from a to b quick enough

Im chilled too.

i just love how everytime i alert people to a software or hardware update of some sort from Apple all the Windows crew on here (You, Cheeze, Colin etc) all start slagging it and me off. Saying im a fanboi and love apple and think apple are perfect etc etc :dull: :dull:

Its a good job i don't have a complex :rofl:

Edited 17 June, 201016 yr by vRSCarl

But do we need to know? It updates on its own or at least tells you there is stuff available.

That's why people rip you for it mate, your telling us stuff that the OS already tells us about

It depends on your update schedule though and it only does so when they are critical updates ( or important as windows now calls them)

I post them up so that people who may manually update or are away from their computers for a while can see that one is available

I don't post up all the updates and software update doesnt alert you to hardware updates as it never told me the iPad or iPhone 4 was/is available. My uncle Steve did so ner :p :p

Edited 17 June, 201016 yr by vRSCarl

I wish I could afford a Mac/Mac book (sigh), although to be fair, I'm running Windows 7 at the moment and it's pretty good.

Not keen on the iPhone or iPad, they seem overpriced for what they are. Did they ever sort out Flash on the iPad?

Im chilled too.

i just love how everytime i alert people to a software or hardware update of some sort from Apple all the Windows crew on here (You, Cheeze, Colin etc) all start slagging it and me off. Saying im a fanboi and love apple and think apple are perfect etc etc :dull: :dull:

Its a good job i don't have a complex :rofl:

Do you f**king read or just push apple pap?

For the third time on this thread alone, I'm not a f**king windows person. Sure I use it on some machines, but most things are some flavour of Linux or UNIX.

Tony is right Carl, I only lay in because you state the obvious.

People who have chosen to do manual updates also know where to check themselves. If they don't they should be on auto notify.

Edited 17 June, 201016 yr by cheezemonkhai

See got you to bite again

Get a room you two FFS

See got you to bite again

Oh go and look at that linked apple branded backside on your iPad.