Bit of a up date from previous thread.Just in case you forgot the Intercooler is the same (shape) as the Forge one other than it being £600 cheaper :p/10cm longer and having 3''Outlet holes but i made it fit Its unfinished being it needs a bracket made to hold in place. My mate owns a custom Exhurst shop so he can knock me one up, he doesn't know it yet

Ebay Intercooler

thats fricking enormous

what about the lack of crash bar strength?

what about the lack of crash bar strength?

Don't crash

good idea! lol. so including piping how much has this all cost? and how long did it take?

good idea! lol. so including piping how much has this all cost? and how long did it take?

£220 with Intercooler/Silicone pipes/joiners and Clamps

I spend about a day including cutting the crash bar witch i mite add, don't wear cotton bottoms when cutting metal with a angle grinder i set my leg on fire lol

But you could probably use the Forge pipes out of the Intercooler package kit if they sell the two pipes separately. They sell the crash bar separately so they might do them aswel :wonder:

But you could probably use the Forge pipes out of the Intercooler package kit if they sell the two pipes separately. They sell the crash bar separately so they might do them aswel :wonder:

Yep im going to change my pipes. Less chance of boost leak with less joins etc

Forge Linky Scroll down

FROM FORGE

1 x MAP sensor adaptor

1 x Silicone hose Pt no. SP285

1 x Silicone hose Pt No. FMSKOINT

4 x 45-60mm (No.2) hose clamps

2 x 60-80mm (No.3) hose clamps

FROM EBAY

2 x 3"to 2.5" Reducers

2 x 2.5" joiner insert

2 x 3" hose clamps

Bit of a trim but it would fit i reckon :yes:

why not pay that little bit more you can have a forge one for £500 new

but well done for giving it a crack cant help but think it might be that little bit to big for the vrs especially with the 3 inch outlets...... small turbo + super massive cooler = problems

p.s £600 cheaper????????????????????????

forge new deliverd to your door when you go direct £500 then - £220 you payed for yours in my book it = £280 less but with loads of hassle lol

p.s.s are you going to open up the bumper if not then you will have even more trouble as its so big the top 70% will have no airflow across the veins wich is fairly important lol

Edited 5 September, 201015 yr by westallc

yup i cant help but agree with clive,

fair play for doing it yourself, but some things are just worth paying extra for....a properly designed kit!

There are too many pipes and connections (all weak points), too big diameter pipework, and a bar and plate cooler = something likely to go wrong

dont get me wrong, am not a fan of the forge kit either, but there are other ways you can achieve what you are looking for with a lot less effort like my recent uprated SMIC or by buying a kit from the states.

Edited 5 September, 201015 yr by Oet

why not pay that little bit more you can have a forge one for £500 new

but well done for giving it a crack cant help but think it might be that little bit to big for the vrs especially with the 3 inch outlets...... small turbo + super massive cooler = problems

p.s £600 cheaper????????????????????????

forge new deliverd to your door when you go direct £500 then - £220 you payed for yours in my book it = £280 less but with loads of hassle lol

p.s.s are you going to open up the bumper if not then you will have even more trouble as its so big the top 70% will have no airflow across the veins wich is fairly important lol

Yea i see what your saying but like i said its unfinished,Bumper will be cut around intercooler, 3" outlets have reducers on so back to 2.5". Yes it would be pointless with a small turbo but when a big GSR-HX35 Turbo amongst other things are going on its needed Ether way you look at it £220 Vs £500 is more than half price :wonder: , when u start adding all these "little bit more" costs get silly. Im going for 450-475BHP

good luck

for that power that cooler prob be bin worthy as it wont be able to cope cheap doesnt = good

p.s you must have a very deep wallets for that power lol have you the first idea of what will be needed to get that power?? ands how to put it down??

good luck

for that power that cooler prob be bin worthy as it wont be able to cope cheap doesnt = good

p.s you must have a very deep wallets for that power lol have you the first idea of what will be needed to get that power?? ands how to put it down??

I dnt have the time of day to make u a wish list mate but it wont be front wheel drive ill tell u that much. Why wnt it cope???? unless you try you you wnt know mate :no: How much did u say the Forge intercooler kit is £500?, well take off the crash bar price

(if u dnt trade urs)£190 and the two boost pipes which have to be around £75? each £170. So wats that, £140 Forge is a rip off end of . The amount of Corsa red top turbos running 400+bhp with cheap cheap intercoolers is the norm :yes: Dnt say mine is "bin worthy" becaue when compare the unit price of JUST the Forge intercooler £140ish, my £120 intercooler isnt that cheap is it

Anything else ur a expert on?

how does your insurance stand with you cutting the crash barrier?? Also winding up Clive "Westallc" won't help you, he knows a lot about tuning the 1.8t's.

lol, you have started something, the rage of westallc will be unleashed

Thing is stealthvrs, i agree 1000% the forge stuff is a rip off, but generally its good.

Now im not saying your FMIC is not good, but its not a comparison to the forge one, for a start yours looks like bar and plate (cheaper construction) and the forge one is tube and fin....... one will perform better than the other......

its about design and again the cheap kits tend to not be made well or designed properly so that they dont flow well...

Just out of interest you said ' it wont be front wheel drive'

does that mean you are doing a 4x4 conversion...or changing your car to 4x4??

yup f*ck cutting crash bar too, crazy idea...

I'd imagine the insurance would have kittens if they knew the crash bar had been cut - but then again they probably wouldn't take kindly to the Forge one either unless Forge can prove the strengthening they put in place makes the crash bar at least as safe as standard (does anyone know if they've crash tested it?).

Edited 6 September, 201015 yr by chicken_eyebrow

okay fella post up once done sounds cool

p.s have a feeling your just another dreamer but hey ho lol

oet/sweedish lol no point in discusing the difference between the 2 as i have a small inclin he hasnt a clue about how coolers are made

best bit of advise i can give you is dont bother go buy a faster car setup to handle the power

p.s about the last bit in your quote the answer is alot more than you :p

Edited 6 September, 201015 yr by westallc

p.s regarding insurance yes it would void it but thats if they take the bumper off i did it and so do many others i wouldnt worry about that lol

good luck

Edited 6 September, 201015 yr by westallc

How much did u say the Forge intercooler kit is £500?, well take off the crash bar price

(if u dnt trade urs)£190 and the two boost pipes which have to be around £75? each £170. So wats that, £140 Forge is a rip off end of .

I purchased a Forge FMIC from directing at Forge through this site for £600 all in. This was not to send my original crash bar off, did not need to, but if i did I would of got even better deal.

This kit comes with all the hoses and pipes and everything needed to fit well, without all the messing around that most users had needed to do on DIY kits.

Sure there is money to be saved and some of those DIY kits may work well but you don't have a Forge testing background on any of those bar and plate constructed items.

I would of loved to pay less and can see why peeps go other routes, but wanted a easy fitting tried and tested FMIC and for that I paid for it.

Looking back i probably may have gone a upgraded SMIC or added a second SMIC from a S3 , TT set up, but very happy with the results of the Forge,.

These DIY items can sometime cause more charge temps than a standard SMIC would offer. And If i was going 400+ BHP i would want to fit the best and proven parts for that kind of power and not with a untested cheaper alternative.

I wish you the best in the project though and would like to know your results,

Yea i see what your saying but like i said its unfinished,Bumper will be cut around intercooler, 3" outlets have reducers on so back to 2.5". Yes it would be pointless with a small turbo but when a big GSR-HX35 Turbo amongst other things are going on its needed Ether way you look at it £220 Vs £500 is more than half price :wonder: , when u start adding all these "little bit more" costs get silly. Im going for 450-475BHP

Never thought I'd say this but I think Clive is right..... lol

Seen has you have decided what your final target horsepower will be, might I suggest that a more reliable way to achive your goals would be to put a little thought into what will be required to achieve 475bhp.

Start by calculating AF (Actual mass airflow in pounds per minute to achieve 475bhp)

Next calculate T2C ( Charge air temp from compressor @ max AF)

Next calculate the IC internal flow area of the core to minimize pressure drop through the intercooler.

Next calcualate the IC core size that achieves the required charge flow area.

IMO if you were to do the above you'd end up with a totally different style and size IC on your car

HTH

Bill.

Bill................tell me you work with intercoolers for a living???

Never thought I'd say this but I think Clive is right..... lol

Bill.

thanks bill you have made my day i finally got something right lol

many hours on google and cupra net have paid off for me im now going into retirement ( evo forum i mean )