hi, just wondering if anybody has any opinions about these people, considering a remap all opinions welcome,

http://www.black-code.co.uk/index.html

thanks, jordan

Yes, they did my Fabia vRS a few weeks ago!

They seem okay!

I wish i had gonne to Jabba or Awesome and got it done on a rolling road tho!

I went for the 170bhp 310lbft map.

Yes, they did my Fabia vRS a few weeks ago!

They seem okay!

I wish i had gonne to Jabba or Awesome and got it done on a rolling road tho!

I went for the 170bhp 310lbft map.

how is your clutch standing the load?

No problems after 2500 miles!

Bit smokey though!

like i always say....more boost!!!!

like i always say....more boost!!!!

will this not shorten the life of the turbo? what is the standard boost bar of the turbo? and its limitations etc?

jordan

No problems after 2500 miles!

Bit smokey though!

did you notice must performance over standard? do you have a BLT engine? im just concerned that if im puting out 150bhp/260torque and i go for somewhere between 165-170 bhp and 280-300 torque that i wouldn notice much difference for the money?

jordan

Yes mine is the BLT engine, theres not a huge increase in performance to be honest but definately noticeable and the engine sounds a little different too.

Fuel economy is up a bit aswell.

As you say, with the BLT engine there is about 150bhp standard, so you're not getting as much extra power as you would with maping the pre BLT engine.

VRSDanny, I'm also intriegued about increasing the boost to reduce smoke? would this not reduce turbo life?

Admittedly I only noticed more smoke after filling up with V Power diesel!

tbh in my opinion

unless you want to spend thousands keep it standard

the pd130 turbo just isn't upto it

Isn't up to what? A remap?!?

Matt

Isn't up to what? A remap?!?

Matt

aye just a lot of things

clutch

flywheel

brakes

suspension

turbo

intercooler

the car was designed for 130bhp

i have learned the hard way

but its all a learning curve

unless you go the whole hog and spend thousands

Edited 2 November, 201015 yr by BigJase88

aye just a lot of things

clutch

flywheel

brakes

suspension

turbo

intercooler

the car was designed for 130bhp

i have learned the hard way

but its all a learning curve

unless you go the whole hog and spend thousands

Wise words!

My plans are to get the clutch, fmic etc first and the just go for the pd150 turbo + remap from unit 18.

Is a bitch in the short run since its being safety first but will be worth it

will this not shorten the life of the turbo? what is the standard boost bar of the turbo? and its limitations etc?

jordan

IIRC I think the standard turbos can be safely run at around 1.7 BAR but you have to take into account that from time to time the turbos "overboost" which can cause damage...usually remapping companies opt for around 1.5-1.7 BAR for a stage one from my experience.

When I say up the boost - its my little joke lol, although can actually reduce smoke, there are other things you can do though too, better air filter, better fuel, water/methanol injection etc etc.

Yes mine is the BLT engine, theres not a huge increase in performance to be honest but definately noticeable and the engine sounds a little different too.

Fuel economy is up a bit aswell.

As you say, with the BLT engine there is about 150bhp standard, so you're not getting as much extra power as you would with maping the pre BLT engine.

VRSDanny, I'm also intriegued about increasing the boost to reduce smoke? would this not reduce turbo life?

Admittedly I only noticed more smoke after filling up with V Power diesel!

As above really, remapping your car at all will undoubtably reduce the longivity of its components, and if you put the turbo out of its 'safe' limits then you will drastically reduce it's life. This is why manufacturers set the tolerences well within the cars capabilities, as it increases reliability...so yes you can run more boost, but the more you run the less likely you are to make that turbo last.

HTH

When I say up the boost - its my little joke lol, although can actually reduce smoke, there are other things you can do though too, better air filter, better fuel, water/methanol injection etc etc.

Or perhaps just map it properly in the first place?

Or perhaps just map it properly in the first place?

LOL well there is that, but I didnt want to insinuate that Black Code don't....better rich than lean i guess, but still not good either way.

LOL well there is that, but I didnt want to insinuate that Black Code don't....better rich than lean i guess, but still not good either way.

Not in a diesel. Rich = higher EGTs.

Not in a diesel. Rich = higher EGTs.

ahhh I thought it was other way around, didnt realise it was different in a diesel....hmmm so my saying stands true then!!! MORE BOOST!

Are the blt engines actually 150 bhp? As that sounds very silly imo.

How can adding 50bhp and 70ftt not make a massive difference over standard!?

Are the blt engines actually 150 bhp? As that sounds very silly imo.

How can adding 50bhp and 70ftt not make a massive difference over standard!?

theyre all supposed to be 130bhp but some can make more than others...its kinda pot luck, not down to BLT IIRC.

theyre all supposed to be 130bhp but some can make more than others...its kinda pot luck, not down to BLT IIRC.

All the BLT motors put out at least 5-10bhp more than ASZ. The best ones are putting out over 155bhp but 140-150bhp is the most common range.

It's incredibly uncommon for a remap to give an extra 50bhp on a standard engine 25-40bhp is about right unless you want to start a long-term relationship with a recovery truck driver. Torque can be dialled in, but again, it will just destroy a standard clutch so you shouldn't look to headline figures, you should look to driveability in a good remap.

All the BLT motors put out at least 5-10bhp more than ASZ. The best ones are putting out over 155bhp but 140-150bhp is the most common range.

It's incredibly uncommon for a remap to give an extra 50bhp on a standard engine 25-40bhp is about right unless you want to start a long-term relationship with a recovery truck driver. Torque can be dialled in, but again, it will just destroy a standard clutch so you shouldn't look to headline figures, you should look to driveability in a good remap.

Where has it been proven that "ALL" BLT's produce more than AZS's? Mine is an ASZ that made 140bhp standard....my friend had a brand new ibiza that he had mapped nearly straight away, that was putting out quoted standard figures...this was back in 2006/7 mind but doesnt make a difference to statistics.

Surely a new engine would be tigher and less powerful as a result? Could be wrong, but that was my understanding anyway.

A remap is fine, and your car isn't going to fall apart just because it's mapped, there's lots on here to prove that. However, by remapping you are putting the parts under more stress, but you just have to not drive like a ****. Anyone having problems with a mapped car, usually can't drive, or just had a poor map.

Matt

Where has it been proven that "ALL" BLT's produce more than AZS's?

I've never seen a rolling road printout on a BLT that wasn't comfortably over 130bhp whereas there are plenty of ASZs that only just do 130bhp.

Engines vary, rolling roads vary, but BLTs do put out more power as standard than ASZs. They just do.

Edited 3 November, 201015 yr by wja96

I've never seen a rolling road printout on a BLT that wasn't comfortably over 130bhp whereas there are plenty of ASZs that only just do 130bhp.

Engines vary, rolling roads vary, but BLTs do put out more power as standard than ASZs. They just do.

Thanks for that, knowing "that they just do" really provides strong evidence :wonder:

I've seen my ASZ out put more standard than my friends standard BLT - so that already proves in my own eyes "ALL" is incorrect.

Just seems like opinions to me.