........... mind you, at "only" 35 I've had some sarcastic comments about it being for "old" people only...!

........but they're just talking out of their ar :yes: se!

Being just 39 I couldn't bring myself to buying an automatic... & I thought I was old for my age.... :p but now you can work on your laptop & eat a burger whilst driving, in addition to obviously talking hands free... even when parking if you wanted to be flash!

ps. I at least did get a disc.

Oh does the car you drive say anything about your age??? surely not!

Well I'm 75 and I bought it because it met the need for an old people home on wheels. A + is it screams away from the lights far better then my old V6 Mondeo Auto !

Lets just be clear about this, as far as I can tell:

1. Discs are not supplied with the vehicle from the factory, they are supplied seperately by the UK dealer. This reflected in the build option code '7QA - Without CD/DVD for navigation'.
   
2. Each vehicle with a factory fitted Columbus should be supplied with an original and current navigation software disc. This is necessary to ensure that the copy of the map software installed on the Columbus is both upto-date and correctly licensed.
   
3. Dealers who as a matter of course do not supply current navigation software discs with factory-fit navigation units are either mis-informed or 'pulling a fast one'. Either way reusing a single disc to perform multiple installations is going to be in breach of the map software licensing.
   

Best regards

David

Not quite, the dealer should order a disc from the factory for each columbus equipped car. In that case the disc will come with the car when it's delivered new. The code you are referring to means the dealer hasn't ordered a disc and will install the software from their 'master'.

It is apparent that some dealers are not doing this and only downloading the data from a 'master' disc which they keep hold of.

In that case the customer has to hope there are no faults which require a reinstall of the software because that would mean back to the dealer.

Make your own judgements about the morality of some dealers not giving out discs with Columbus units supplied.

Mark.

Edited 15 December, 201015 yr by 2slo

Not quite, the dealer should order a disc from the factory for each columbus equipped car. In that case the disc will come with the car when it's delivered new. The code you are referring to means the dealer hasn't ordered a disc and will install the software from their 'master'.

I don't think this is the case. The option code is from my cars build specification and I received a v7 navigation software disc with the car.

I'm going into Rainworth Skoda first thing tommorow so I'll ask them nicely to clarify the process for us, but I strongly suspect the navigation software is supplied in the same way as other parts and accessories by SUK and the notion of 'master discs' is a fiction.

Best regards

David

I don't think this is the case. The option code is from my cars build specification and I received a v7 navigation software disc with the car.

I'm going into Rainworth Skoda first thing tommorow so I'll ask them nicely to clarify the process for us, but I strongly suspect the navigation software is supplied in the same way as other parts and accessories by SUK and the notion of 'master discs' is a fiction.

Best regards

David

Fine, ask your dealer tomorrow.

I'm quoting what my dealer told me yesterday about the disc coming with the car when it's ordered from the factory by the dealer.

Looking at a v3 disc I have here, it's marked Skoda auto and has a lot of, what appears to be, Czech writing on it, that tends to support factory produced.

At the end of the day though it really doesn't matter where it comes from, the important thing is the discs should be supplied with the car.

Mark.

Thanks for the kind offer... although I'll wait and see what arrives with the car. Skoda UK have just been on the phone and confirmed that v7 is now current (we all know that, but it's clear that some dealers don't). Hopefully when my car turns up it'll all be sorted and v7 will be the norm if not, I might just take you up on the offer!

I've been on to Skoda UK Customer Services today who told me that V6 is still the version that is being shipped with cars but that V7 was available for purchase!

Left hand ... and right hand ... ;-)

Oh, now that's something we've not heard before. So back orders are perhaps still being shipped with v6.1... I'd certainly be asking for a free upgrade to v7 if that's the case. Clearly though, some people are being provided with v7 discs.

Fine, ask your dealer tomorrow.

I'm quoting what my dealer told me yesterday about the disc coming with the car when it's ordered from the factory by the dealer.

Looking at a v3 disc I have here, it's marked Skoda auto and has a lot of, what appears to be, Czech writing on it, that tends to support factory produced.

At the end of the day though it really doesn't matter where it comes from, the important thing is the discs should be supplied with the car.

Mark.

Hi Mark

I'm not trying to be argumentative, 'honest' . Given the existance of the build option code I guess dealers may have choice on how they source the software. I'll report back what Rainworth have to say tommorow.

One thing I am certain of, and we agree, is that all cars should be supplied with an original software disc.

Best regards

David

Edited 15 December, 201015 yr by cookdn

I've been on to Skoda UK Customer Services today who told me that V6 is still the version that is being shipped with cars but that V7 was available for purchase!

Left hand ... and right hand ... ;-)

WHAT!!! Are you saying there is also a left hand and right hand drive version!!!

Just kidding!

WHAT!!! Are you saying there is also a left hand and right hand drive version!!!

Didn't you know...? Everything is written backwards and therefore the disks spin the opposite way

Edited 16 December, 201015 yr by Superbalicious

Didn't you know...? Everything is written backwards and therefore the disks spin the opposite way

& down under don't forget to insert the disc upside down...

I've been on to Skoda UK Customer Services today who told me that V6 is still the version that is being shipped with cars but that V7 was available for purchase!

Left hand ... and right hand ... ;-)

Ho hum.... the saga is dragging out a little but it is the dealers that need to be aware/order the right parts (according to Skoda).

I've just been given the same/similar message v6.1 is being supplied and that is what I've been given. But there is a v7 available from the dealers/retail (implied it was for purchase).

I was told that my car (BW45 - completed approx. Fri12 Nov) must have been made before v7 became available and hence why my vehicle was supplied with v6.1 When I asked since when has the v7 been available - even after "checking with someone" the response came back "I don't have a date when v7 was available from" I asked repeatedly and was told again there is no date available from when v7 was available. When I said that a colleague had taken delivery of a vehicle a month earlier than I had - I believed even before mine was built and that that had been supplied with the v7 it could only be commented that it must have been how it was ordered - the dealer appears critical here!

Surprise surprise I asked to speak to another person - who may be able to help further but it seemed this was not possible (I thought I was about to be put through & then I wasn't - there was a definate I can't do anything for you vibe) . I was told that the dealer had to fill in a seperated form for the Columbus software to ensure the correct product was supplied. But when asked which form it was, does it have a name? a number? she was unabe to do that & I was informed that I needed to speak to sales - they were customer service! sales... not even after-sales...

Why some dealers do & some don't have the latest software was not clear, the only comment was Dealers are all independant and may do things slightly different. (Installing v7 appears not necessarily to be standard - so tongue in cheek I suggested that if an even older version had been supplied, that would have been ok too??? I always buy a new computer and ask for the old software ). :S

In the meantime they would call the dealer (but I reckon I phoned first - they would get onto parts to order latest version now that skoda had confirmed a new edition is out. I've said before I've been v.happy with dealer, so no surprise to hear this) &............. Oh an hour later I've had another call from Skoda.... there appears to be some uncertainty about what I should have received! First comment was that the part number for v6.1 & v7 was thought to be the same (or similar) and maybe this caused confusion [its not v6.1 = AAN 000 067A and v7 = 3TO 051 859] it'd be hard to get those wrong/transposed.... & now get a load of this.... we're not sure but maybe they were all in the same box (I have to admit they do look identical) & it could be that possibly the wrong one was sent with the order... maybe its unclear but it appears a mistake with my order was made.

(I'd rather they said they hadn't informed the dealers of the update & due to excess demand they were struggling to catch up!).

Hey ho, whatever the reason it looks like in a little while I will also be on v7. Cheers for all your comments & hope anyone else affected by the jumbled up box of DVDs with v6.1 & v7 also gets the latest edition.

Skoda - Thank you too if reading for dealing with this issue within 48hrs of me raising the question/complaint with you directly. A shame its happened & good for me this forum exists. Still think its a top car - now its just been made a little better - well done! I trust no more future hiccups

Enough from me now...hope it helps.

Hi Mark

I'm not trying to be argumentative, 'honest' . Given the existance of the build option code I guess dealers may have choice on how they source the software. I'll report back what Rainworth have to say tommorow.

One thing I am certain of, and we agree, is that all cars should be supplied with an original software disc.

Best regards

David

Hi All

I had a chat with the Fleet Sales Administrator @ Rainworth this morning and brought up the subject of how the navigation software discs are supplied.

As suspected these discs are not supplied with the vehicles from the factory, it is the reponsibility of the dealer to order the disc through their standard parts and accessories channel ideally so that the disc is available at the cars predelivery inspection for installation to the navigation unit. From what was said in the converation, navigation software discs are not the only items ordered seperately from the car, so I guess the UK English language instruction manuals probably come through the same route.

As to why some people are still receiving new vehicles with v6.1 navigation software I guess that their dealer is either unaware of the new v7 part number (3TO 051 859) or holds a stock of navigation software discs and are still carrying inventory of the v6.1 part. As I said before about people receiving vehicles with no navigation software disc, their dealers are either mis-informed or 'pulling a fast one'. It doesn't help that Skoda UK Customer Services cannot give a definitive unambiguous answer to peoples enquiries.

I hope this helps somebody.

Best regards

David

Personally I suspect dealers are misinformed as Skoda UK Customer Service are incapable of giving a straight answer, so if the Part No for the two versions is different and the dealer is unaware of this, it would explain whay I got version 6.1. When my dealer handed me the disc, he said it was the last one they had and had to use it to load the maps on to two other cars as they had a back order of discs.

How far away are you David from Warwick? Got a couple of weeks off, so would easily be able to pop over to view your V7 disc if you ain't too far away!

On a serious note again, when I go on Saturday to place the order for my wifes Ocatvia, I will be quoting the V7 part number to make sure her car comes with the latest version which I can then use to update mine before we go on holiday to visit the inlaws in Germany.

Hi Has anybody tried the torrent downloads for V7 there seems to be 5 versions avalible when you google navigation skoda v7 west europe

I know its probably a copyright infringment but as SUK and the dealers dont know what they are doing then take matters in to your own hands

Andy

Hi Has anybody tried the torrent downloads for V7 there seems to be 5 versions avalible when you google navigation skoda v7 west europe

I know its probably a copyright infringment but as SUK and the dealers dont know what they are doing then take matters in to your own hands

Andy

I downloaded and are using V7 West Europe from one site that has got a whole lot of attention in the media.(At least here in Sweden, because the site founders are from here)

I have no problems with it!

My car was delivered with V6.1 in the beginning of December and I think that it should have been delivered with V7. Because I don't want to argue with the dealer I just downloaded it.

The maps will be outdated soon again!

/P

Be aware that there are a number of fake V7 disks on Torrent sites, so if you go down this route then make sure you get a good one. The fakes are very good and even include having the disk label and cdrom.toc file edited to look like a V7.

There is a bug in the real V7 when navigating and it caught me by suprise. Navigating from London to Poole the car asked me to take the exit from the M3 south and head towards "M27 East", not I know it really meant "M27 West" but I wonder how many will get caught out. Both the display and announcement over the speakers were for "M27 East", but the blue line on the map was for the M27 West exit. If you take the M27 East route you'll end up in Portsmouth rather than Poole.

I suspect there will be a V7.1 disk soon, in just the same way there was V6.1 shortly after V6.

I suspect there will be a V7.1 disk soon, in just the same way there was V6.1 shortly after V6.

There is a bug in the real V7 when navigating and it caught me by suprise. Navigating from London to Poole the car asked me to take the exit from the M3 south and head towards "M27 East", not I know it really meant "M27 West" but I wonder how many will get caught out. Both the display and announcement over the speakers were for "M27 East", but the blue line on the map was for the M27 West exit. If you take the M27 East route you'll end up in Portsmouth rather than Poole.

I had a similar experience travelling between Edinburgh and Glasgow on Tuesday night. The v7 sat nav software was giving me the correct directions for the M8, but referring to the road as the M9. This continued until I came off the end of the M8 onto the A8.

Best regards

David