With luck, I will hopefully have my winter tyres and wheels by the end of this week. I've ordered 205/55R16s, so that I can fit chains all round if I need to (and if you'd seen the snow up here last week, you realise why I might need to).

My choice of tyre size was partly influenced by this link that I found on the "Further technical and spec info" sticky thread. The link is to a document on Scribd which was posted there by a user called YETII who doesn't seem to post any more. Does anyone know what his source for the information was? I'd like to be able to cite it if things get difficult with my insurers. (I know they're supposed to be cool with winter tyres now, but I'm just a little worried that they may decide to be intransigent about the change in wheel size. Especially since, as far as I know, they won't be VAG wheels.)

With luck, I will hopefully have my winter tyres and wheels by the end of this week. I've ordered 205/55R16s, so that I can fit chains all round if I need to (and if you'd seen the snow up here last week, you realise why I might need to).

My choice of tyre size was partly influenced by this link that I found on the "Further technical and spec info" sticky thread. The link is to a document on Scribd which was posted there by a user called YETII who doesn't seem to post any more. Does anyone know what his source for the information was? I'd like to be able to cite it if things get difficult with my insurers. (I know they're supposed to be cool with winter tyres now, but I'm just a little worried that they may decide to be intransigent about the change in wheel size. Especially since, as far as I know, they won't be VAG wheels.)

That information was from a German Skoda web site as I recall.

Same size as I have fitted - no problems with insurer. The master work on tyre sizes is by TP "The Plumber" and with updates in the various winter tyres topics, including insurance, should furnish all the information you need. The key evidence is advice to insurers from the SMMT and ABI that winter tyres should not be treated as a modification and should not attract an additional premium. Search the BBC web site for the original statement.

If you can't find what you arelooking for PM me and I'll dig out thelinks this evening if I can.

im confused why do u need winter tyres and wheels on a 4x4?....ive only a fwd 1.2 and had no issues driving in snow/ice for last 2 weeks..and it was upto 3ft deep here too...mine was the only fwd vehicle to get off our close

Lee67 - Stand back and get ready for the tirades.......

im confused why do u need winter tyres and wheels on a 4x4?....ive only a fwd 1.2 and had no issues driving in snow/ice for last 2 weeks..and it was upto 3ft deep here too...mine was the only fwd vehicle to get off our close

No tirades, but I can give a few possible reasons of why the poor Yeti driver from Edinburgh needs winter tyres and might find snow chains invaluable...

1. they have more hills - I have winter tyres and could not get up a 40% gradient hill on Monday which was my first failure, but an Audi A6 Quattro with winter tyres just made it look effortless

2. they have more compacted snow and ice if the gritting lorries have not been around every wee road

3. they are more concerned with safety and realise that four wheel drive with winter tyres = less sliding = shorter braking distances and greater confidence of making it round corners

After seeing the Quattro get up a 40% gradient hill, I am yearning now for the Yeti...! (Come on Skoda, allow us the sunroof again please - so I can order my Yeti...)

Lee, why not try looking back at all the threads on "WINTER" tyres, both here and in the general section. I think you will find the answer.

And if you would like to sample some first hand experience I do accept beer tokens for lessons!

Edited 15 December, 201015 yr by Llanigraham

That information was from a German Skoda web site as I recall.

Hmm, don't think so. I suspect you may be thinking of this link which TP included in his extremely useful Yeti Tyre and Rim Guide. However, that document is in German, covers all Skoda models and requires cross-referencing to my engine code. The link provided by YETII was to a document in English which applied solely to the Yeti. He posted a number of documents on the "Further technical and spec info" sticky thread. They look like extracts from a technical manual of some kind.

The footer of each document bears a URL of the general form "vw-wi://rl/C.en-GB.S00.6303.00.wi::39761551.xml?xsl=3" which is clearly not an address on the public web. I was thinking that it might be from a VAG information system of some kind. Anyone know?

Why don't you click on YetII's profile and then on "send me a message"? Maybe he will respond.

Thanks for the suggestion but I've already tried that with no luck. He hasn't posted on the forums since May this year; it looks like he doesn't come by this way any more.

No tirades, but I can give a few possible reasons of why the poor Yeti driver from Edinburgh needs winter tyres and might find snow chains invaluable...

1. they have more hills - I have winter tyres and could not get up a 40% gradient hill on Monday which was my first failure, but an Audi A6 Quattro with winter tyres just made it look effortless

2. they have more compacted snow and ice if the gritting lorries have not been around every wee road

3. they are more concerned with safety and realise that four wheel drive with winter tyres = less sliding = shorter braking distances and greater confidence of making it round corners

After seeing the Quattro get up a 40% gradient hill, I am yearning now for the Yeti...! (Come on Skoda, allow us the sunroof again please - so I can order my Yeti...)

I quite agree with your sentiments. I also know that two subjects are guaranteed to set people off on this forum. One is questioning the worth of Winter Tyres, the other is the permanent use of fog lights. Both are obvious but they crop up every so often and get people very irate.

Thanks for the suggestion but I've already tried that with no luck. He hasn't posted on the forums since May this year; it looks like he doesn't come by this way any more.

"The permissible sizes of winter tyres are stated in your vehicle documents". According to the PDF of the Yeti manual. Might be worth checking there first, obviously it will differ depending on the variant and trim level.

Stewart

The link in post 1 is an extract from the offical VAG electronic servicing documentation system (ElsaWin) for the Yeti.

Regards,

TP

actually i live in a remote part of yorkshire..with massive hills!!!...im sat between woodhead pass and snake pass..both of which close in snow reguarly...i havnt had any problems so far driving in snow in 26yrs...so dont need lessons..just to confirm last week i drove over the tops with snow higher than the yeti!!!!..and all on goodyear exceallance fitted to a fwd 1.2 ...driving army trucks in ALL condtions must have helped me

As TP said, it's from ELSAWin

When the original Mini came out, its front wheel drive was a revelation in snowy & icy conditions while all around got stuck. Small diameter tubed tyres, innovative front wheel drive, transverse engine and no driver aids whatsoever - it coped admirably.

"The permissible sizes of winter tyres are stated in your vehicle documents". According to the PDF of the Yeti manual.

I think it has been observed on a number of other threads on this issue that UK Yetis do not come with any such documentation. Mine certainly didn't.

actually i live in a remote part of yorkshire..with massive hills!!!...last week i drove over the tops with snow higher than the yeti!!!!..and all on goodyear exceallance fitted to a fwd 1.2

Obviously anyone who is a brilliant driver like you doesn't need any kind of technical aids. I'm surprised you even need an engine!

Personally I will take whatever help I can, 'cuz clearly I'm a wuss. A wuss who likes to get places, and without undue risk.

The link in post 1 is an extract from the offical VAG electronic servicing documentation system (ElsaWin) for the Yeti.

Thanks TP! That's just the information I was looking for: an official VAG servicing document which states, in English, that the 205/55R16 on 16" wheels is a valid combination for the Yeti. I call that a result.

Obviously anyone who is a brilliant driver like you doesn't need any kind of technical aids. I'm surprised you even need an engine!

Why is it that people have to resort to unpleasant abusive language to prove their point?

I have never driven on "winter tyres" (probably because I did not realise they existed until I bought a Yeti) It would be nice to own a set but, for the present, I will continue as I have always done on the set of tyres that came with the car.

This is now my second winter with the Yeti and I remain impressed with its performance in all weather conditions. If Mr lee67 said he got to the top of Yorkshire on a fwd Yeti, I salute him.

Some years ago, I collected my daughter from a Bryan Adams concert in the Sheffield Arena. The weather was foul and I was in a convoy of three cars crossing the Woodhead. We heard the next day that the Woodhead had been closed about the time we were crossing. That was in a Sierra - so anything is possible with care. (I claim no skill just 48 years experience)

Edited 15 December, 201015 yr by Terfyn

Why is it that people have to resort to unpleasant abusive language to prove their point?

lee67 interjected with comments not relevant to the thread, comments which imply a dismissive attitude to the experiences of others. Just because someone doesn't use rude words doesn't mean they're not being rude.

Those of us who have a reasonable amount of experience of driving in slippery conditions on normal tyres and a small amount of recent experience of driving in slippery conditions with winter tyres, appreciate the extra safety margin they provide. But this is neither here nor there in a thread where the OP is asking about the provenance of wheel and tyre sizes to support his choices.

Edited 15 December, 201015 yr by AnotherGareth

Here you can see an updated list for the link from the first post:

My link

New engines include, greenline also.

You have to click on the download button to save it with good resolution, not just right button - save picture

Hope it works for you!

lee67 interjected with comments not relevant to the thread, comments which imply a dismissive attitude to the experiences of others. Just because someone doesn't use rude words doesn't mean they're not being rude.

Those of us who have a reasonable amount of experience of driving in slippery conditions on normal tyres and a small amount of recent experience of driving in slippery conditions with winter tyres, appreciate the extra safety margin they provide. But this is neither here nor there in a thread where the OP is asking about the provenance of wheel and tyre sizes to support his choices.

Good. I am pleased you are satisfied with your winter tyres. But why do you object to others giving their experiences on a thread about tyres? The point is that there are people who do not like comments by others who take an opposite point of view but they can only express themselves by the use of hurtful and offensive language. I do hope you are not one of those.

why do you object to others giving their experiences on a thread about tyres?

This was hardly a thread about use of different types of tyre; it was a thread about finding the correct wheel and tyre sizes for a particular application. lee67 wasn't adding anything useful to the subject, and there are a myriad other threads discussing the use of winter tyres he could have used.

Your complaint that someone responds to his irrelevant words with a sarky comment, which in my opinion was neither offensive nor abusive, also seems out of place in the same fashion.

Sure, there's thread drift, but when lee67 wrote inconsiderate words there's no reason why he shouldn't have been called for doing so.

Why is it that people have to resort to unpleasant abusive language to prove their point?

I don't see how the language I used was either unpleasant nor abusive (but see below*). The meaning could, I admit, have been understood as being less than fulsome praise. I'm sorry that I do not have sufficient command of the nuances of smiley use as to be able accurately to convey tongue-in-cheek ironic joshing. Err... :(

* "Security" isn't a dirty word, Blackadder. "Crevice" is a dirty word, but "security" isn't...Now there's another dirty word: "job"!..."leak" is a positively disgusting word.

I think Lee67 asked a perfectly valid question but people get very touchy if someone seems to be criticising their beloved but not so perfect Yeti.

Here you can see an updated list for the link from the first post:

My link

New engines include, greenline also.

You have to click on the download button to save it with good resolution, not just right button - save picture

Hope it works for you!

Many thanks for the update

Noticed what I think is possible an error with the GreenLine II, as the 205/55 R16 91T can be fitted with snow chains but oddly the 205/55 R16 91H cannot with both on the same 7Jx16 rim size :wonder:

TP

inconsiderate words me???? i asked a perfectly normal question...and gave a percetly normal response...if can drive in snow with my fwd' get over it...years ago the country didnt come to a standstill when we was all driving allegro's marinas cortinas etc etc...as i said i drove 110 miles in deep snow for a fmaily funeral and at times the snow was higher than my yeti...if u think its normal to criticise me for asking normal questions and continue to flame me then this forum isnt for me...