oh and around 50% extra torque through the midrange , still not as much as a vrs but plenty

Edited 24 January, 201115 yr by MarkMac

It's not really fair to compare a mapped car to an unmapped car, you put a map on the civic and it would eat mapped fabias.

thats the thing though, mapped vrs's get compared to everything!!

anything can be quick if you spend the money!!

theres a fiat marea i was reading about the other night 750bhp

I totally agree, I love civics.... All of my mates drive them. But I think the point is that the civic is regarded as the ultimate sport car (within reason) and this little diesel that's had a little bit spent on it can shock a type r driver. But, if a dogs born in a barn it doesn't make it a horse!

Cant beat the sound of vtec and a buddyclub spec 3 and The gruppe M intake :-(

heres a thought!

if anyone wants a type r but doesnt like the image they give off try a Toyota Corolla T Sport which is unknown, sounds miles better than VTEC and is quicker!

or if you want something really really quick get the Tsport Compressor, 215bhp Superchared with VVTL-I

friend has one of the compressors, quite fast tbh

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but how DO you get any significant power increase with a normally-aspirated petrol engine? No turbo to increase boost on, and stoichiometric combustion means you can't alter fuelling levels. So what's left? Ignition timing? Taking the engine to bits?

Genuine question, BTW...

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but how DO you get any significant power increase with a normally-aspirated petrol engine? No turbo to increase boost on, and stoichiometric combustion means you can't alter fuelling levels. So what's left? Ignition timing? Taking the engine to bits?

Genuine question, BTW...

what you do with vtec is a hondata k-pro its like a piggy back ecu...

standard guise the EP3 type r is 197bhp with a k-pro on it, they go to like 230bhp..

vtec engagement is also lowered

don't ask me how it works however

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but how DO you get any significant power increase with a normally-aspirated petrol engine? No turbo to increase boost on, and stoichiometric combustion means you can't alter fuelling levels. So what's left? Ignition timing? Taking the engine to bits?

Genuine question, BTW...

cams, headwork, intake, exhaust, displacement, mapping/management. smaller gains but arguably bigger fun

Coming from a remapped fabia to a EP3 CTR.

The CTR is in a different league. This has been done god knows how many times before.

I used to think my remapped fabia would keep up with a CTR, Focus ST, Leon Cupra R's etc. Its not until you own a real hot hatch you realize that the fabia just is not one. .

Up a hill you will sit on the back of a CTR, but on a flat bit of road, driven correctly, just CTR will pull away quite easily. My friend has a stage 1 Ibiza FR, and up to 70 he's still there just about, but anything more and i'm gone.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Fabia to bits, and will be sad to see it go, but its a little diesel hatchback, which provides fun for short blasts and quick overtakes, but its not a hot hatch, no matter how much money you throw at it.

+ 1

coming an ex owner of a kpro'd k20 , V-tec from 4000rpm-8600rpm FTW

+2

293bhp from my jackson racing supercharged jdm civic

Coming from a remapped fabia to a EP3 CTR.

The CTR is in a different league. This has been done god knows how many times before.

True, it has.

And time and again, people always miss that the Civic is a C-segment car, and the Fabia is a B-segment car!

Considering when the Mk1 Fabia came out (OK, it was the Ibiza Sport TDI that got there first, really - nearly 10 years ago, now) it's quite remarkable that with only a remap, its performance is still comparable to virtually anything else in the segment that's available today...