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Anybody know the correct method of fitting and coding the dash pod on a vRS Furby? Vindis have managed to botch it 3 times consecutively now and I want to be able to provide them with instructions as they don't seem to have a clue! :eek:

I thought you code the ECU with vag com to match the coding on the dash-pod which can not be altered! :confused:

When I swapped ECUs back in early 2004, the new ECU needed the 4 pin coding changing on it using a vag com machine... It needed logging in first with the old 4 digit code, then changing to match the coding given out by the dash-pod in my car.

Hope this helps. :)

The strength of immobiliser coding has grown in the last of years - becoming very much more complicated without the equiptment being used being improved at the same rate - plus the new style used in the Fabia/Octavia II will be considerably different to that Skoda tech's will be used to - Audi have used a similar system for a few years - and we still have problems doing it - even if you follow the letter of the instructions - there is no guarantee it wont foook itself up

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From what I can gather, they are fitting new dash pods, and entering a code provided by Skoda UK to the dash pod, which is subsequently reporting an incorrect code... should they be using VAG-COM to recode the ECU with the new code first, then entering the code into the dash pod???

The strength of immobiliser coding has grown in the last of years - becoming very much more complicated without the equiptment being used being improved at the same rate - plus the new style used in the Fabia/Octavia II will be considerably different to that Skoda tech's will be used to - Audi have used a similar system for a few years - and we still have problems doing it - even if you follow the letter of the instructions - there is no guarantee it wont foook itself up

Not all Skoda tech's ;)

Very true. A little while before i left Audi they introduced the 7 pin code when VAS 5051 come out. I know this has now moved on to the ISDN link to the factory for code etc, done a few codings with VAS 5052. SEAT and Skoda still use the old four pin system, but not for long. The new Octavia is the first Skoda to use immobilizer 4.

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Not all Skoda tech's ;)

Very true. A little while before i left Audi they introduced the 7 pin code when VAS 5051 come out. I know this has now moved on to the ISDN link to the factory for code etc' date=' done a few codings with VAS 5052. SEAT and Skoda still use the old four pin system, but not for long. The new Octavia is the first Skoda to use immobilizer 4.[/quote']

Ross, would you mind giving Vindis a bell and showing them how it's done??? :rofl:

Not all Skoda tech's ;)

Very true. A little while before i left Audi they introduced the 7 pin code when VAS 5051 come out. I know this has now moved on to the ISDN link to the factory for code etc' date=' done a few codings with VAS 5052. SEAT and Skoda still use the old four pin system, but not for long. The new Octavia is the first Skoda to use immobilizer 4.[/quote']

Sorry Ross - didn't mean to tar all with the same brush....just going by my own local experience :thumbup:

When we used to use the old 4 pin it was dead easy - fill in the form fax it off return fax in 10 mins enter the code and away,it all started going wrong with 7 pin - they never really got it working properly and yet they keep moving on - each stage becoming more hassle.

We can't even order dashpod's for A3,A6 or A8 becuase they are "theft relevant" parts - we have to have copy of passport,utility bill and V5 before we can order - all this faxed to Audi who then raise internal order with the factory - we recently waited for 9 weeks for an A6 pod :eek:

No one should be struggling with a Skoda dash insert, they are very easy.

For immobilizer three vehicles you need first to authorise the dash insert to the engine ECU. This will transmit the chassis number from the engine ECU to the dash (done by entering the exsisting pin for the car into adaption channel 50). You can then carry out transponer coding as normal using the four pin code is dash panel (17).

There's full instrunctions on the vagcom site for Immobiliser 2 and 3 instrument cluster swaps.

No one should be struggling with a Skoda dash insert' date=' they are very easy.

For immobilizer three vehicles you need first to authorise the dash insert to the engine ECU. This will transmit the chassis number from the engine ECU to the dash (done by entering the exsisting pin for the car into adaption channel 50). You can then carry out transponer coding as normal using the four pin code is dash panel (17).[/quote']

Yep - A well laid out techie way of what happened when I had to do this :thumbup: (with "someone" else's help ;)) plumb in original code, access, plumb in new code, turn key, engine starts, JABBA power! :D

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Here's the links:

Immobiliser 2

Immobiliser 3

Am I right in thinking I need the immobiliser 3 instructions for a 2005 Fabia vRS?

Cheers

Vindis have managed to botch it 3 times consecutively

I have seen dash units come in faulty, you just don't know until you actually plug it in, we've had one or two that we've had to send back because they just wouldn't work properly.

Matt

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I have seen dash units come in faulty' date=' you just don't know until you actually plug it in, we've had one or two that we've had to send back because they just wouldn't work properly.

Matt[/quote']

So far Vindis have managed to botch warranty repairs on everything that's gone wrong on the car, at least once. They've not ordered parts in after inspecting the car, or ordered them in and cocked up fitting them, or told me there was no fault, when clearly there was (e.g. the reverse groaning on the rear calipers - had to find out about the repair kit and bring it to their attention myself before they'd even accept there was a fault). So I have very little faith in their abilities. A concern shared by a few other people here who've had bad experiences with them... So in this particular instance, I'm inclined to think that if they have locked 3 separate dash clusters in a row, they're probably doing something wrong...

Sorry if i've touched a nerve. :worried:

Matt

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Sorry if i've touched a nerve. :worried:

Matt

Not having a go, sorry if it sounded that way... just at my wit's end with this particular garage. Don't feel it should be necessary to tell them how to do their job. But unfortunately, that's been my experience so far. Time to change dealers, methinks...

Well, there are a few out there, have a look on the site and see if any of the other Dealers come rated.

Matt

Jut,

Just out of interest why is the dash insert being changed anyhow?

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Jut' date='

Just out of interest why is the dash insert being changed anyhow?[/quote']

Weirdly enough, about a week after I got the car, the perspex covering the dials cracked whilst driving... don't know if I ran over a bump or something, just looked down a saw it had cracked... very weird. I can only assume it was a manufacturing defect, and the garage haven't given me any grief about not wanting to change it... although I do get the feeling they're sick of seeing my car! Got no sympathy for them on that point tho - if they'd fixed it all by the second or even third visit, then it wouldn't have been broken into whilst at the dealership and caused me even more grief!!!

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Well' date=' there are a few out there, have a look on the site and see if any of the other Dealers come rated.

Matt[/quote']

Thinking Le Car Centre in Finchley from now on :rofl:

Why not, if your not happy, vote with your feet. Although I hear they have now got new management now. Good luck in whatever you decide.

Matt

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Why not' date=' if your not happy, vote with your feet. Although I hear they have now got new management now. Good luck in whatever you decide.

Matt[/quote']

The new management is part of the problem... apparently, after my first visit, the service manager was given the boot and the parts needed weren't ordered. So, on my second visit, they basically did the same thing as on the first visit (i.e. fixed nothing and told me they'd need to order the parts in :mad: ) Then on the third visit, that's when the first dash coding error happened after leaving with them for several days, and while it was in their secure compound over the weekend it was robbed of all its stereo equipement.

They've had it for approaching 3 weeks now, and whilst they seem to have fixed most of the problems (going down tomorrow to check if they've repaired all the damage from the robbery) they're struggling with the dash cluster. And whenever these problems crop up, the general manager who's been brought in to sort out all the problems they were having, and who always offers me his personal assurances that they're a professional outfit and take their customer's concerns very seriously, mysteriously delegates the job to someone else to phone me and tell me they've failed to complete the work when they said they would... :rubchin:

Funny that, he only seems to get in touch with me when it's good news, always delegates the crapwork to an underling... ;) He told me earlier this week it would definitely be ready to collect tomorrow... then this evening, gets someone else to phone me and tell me, no, sorry, still having problems... Ah well, I'm sure tomorrow he'll reassure me that they're a professional outfit and take their customer's concerns very seriously... :thumbdwn:

Weirdly enough, about a week after I got the car, the perspex covering the dials cracked whilst driving... don't know if I ran over a bump or something, just looked down a saw it had cracked... very weird. I can only assume it was a manufacturing defect, and the garage haven't given me any grief about not wanting to change it... although I do get the feeling they're sick of seeing my car! Got no sympathy for them on that point tho - if they'd fixed it all by the second or even third visit, then it wouldn't have been broken into whilst at the dealership and caused me even more grief!!!

Why not just swap the plastic cover from the new clocks onto your existing clocks? No need to worry about coding then.

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Why not just swap the plastic cover from the new clocks onto your existing clocks? No need to worry about coding then.

Can it be done? I'd have no problem with doing this if it's possible, there's nothing wrong in terms of operation with the pod, just the perspex cover is cracked.

And hey ho, what a suprise, Vindis yanked my chain again - details on my thread in the General forum... :thumbdwn:

Assuming they are like Golf's, Octavia's, Passat's etc.. then the front cover simply unclips.....

Just found this on the milotec site.

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