taking a roundabout at 50 is easy with the right setup lol

but you will need the r32 front end setup with quick rack and a diff to help and you will be amazed at what speeds you can do on a well setup vrs

and remeber dont lift off lol power power power

i know lifting off really does get you in the ****, i did it the first time i tested the arb and nearly span my car going round a roundabout, did a bit of correction though with some quick reapplying of power and brought it around, did it infront of 2 cars coming up to the roundabout to their/my amusement lol!

Has billy got your old diff fitted clive?

I lifted off once on a damp corner in my Audi 90 (FWD).

I happened to have decent tyres on the front and cheapies on the rear as well.

Ended up with an impressive tank slapper, mounted an 8" kerb and split one of my brand new front tyres, knackered my tracking and probably bent some stuff in the process.

Scared the cack out of my mate's wife who was in the passenger seat!

lol

i know lifting off really does get you in the ****, i did it the first time i tested the arb and nearly span my car going round a roundabout, did a bit of correction though with some quick reapplying of power and brought it around, did it infront of 2 cars coming up to the roundabout to their/my amusement lol!

Has billy got your old diff fitted clive?

yes mate i think its all in but he was still having issues with driveshafts i think plus he has been mega busy

ah cool, damn i wanted that atb, still am going to get me a nice shiney wavetrac when am in the states next:>

maybe a cheeky 6spd gearbox too :yes:

986 front brakes, work perfectly on the octy

Yeah thought so! Same as Carrera rear which ive got, like you said they work great!

Brake related question. Anyone know if the Leon Cupra R rears are the same as Octavia vRS? 256mm vented IIRC.

Yes, 256mmx22mm, vented

Awesome, thanks.

So I can buy a Cupra R set and be all sorted

taking a roundabout at 50 is easy with the right setup lol

but you will need the r32 front end setup with quick rack and a diff to help and you will be amazed at what speeds you can do on a well setup vrs

and remeber dont lift off lol power power power

Agreed there mate

i know lifting off really does get you in the ****, i did it the first time i tested the arb and nearly span my car going round a roundabout, did a bit of correction though with some quick reapplying of power and brought it around, did it infront of 2 cars coming up to the roundabout to their/my amusement lol!

Has billy got your old diff fitted clive?

Yup I do have the Diff on mine, need to get the Rear beam on it with the Superpro bushes in it and the 28mm RARB all that and the spiders with toyo t1R is an awesome setup. easy to take roundabouts at athat speed. Just need some brakes now to slow it down. Saving for the brembo GTs

yup you def need some gts on there!

Good start, i drove ginges car with the diff and it was wicked!

Need to get my 28mm arb on too!

Octy dont really need a rear ARB!

Not the right suspension set up for it with the transit van cross member it has fit

It just induces more over steer and more lift off over steer which im sure anyone that knows isnt what you want.

As a rule of thumb the stiffer you make an axle the more you can exagerate the unwated effects!

Ive had a rear ARB fitted to mine and i couldnt get it to handle very good at all not even with a chuffing good set of coilovers.

IMO the mk4 Golf platform cars just dont need it, leave it fairly soft on bump and rebound on the shocks , if you have that adjustment! and not too high a spring rate and leave the ARB off!!!!

Octy dont really need a rear ARB!

Not the right suspension set up for it with the transit van cross member it has fit

It just induces more over steer and more lift off over steer which im sure anyone that knows isnt what you want.

As a rule of thumb the stiffer you make an axle the more you can exagerate the unwated effects!

Ive had a rear ARB fitted to mine and i couldnt get it to handle very good at all not even with a chuffing good set of coilovers.

IMO the mk4 Golf platform cars just dont need it, leave it fairly soft on bump and rebound on the shocks , if you have that adjustment! and not too high a spring rate and leave the ARB off!!!!

Dunno about that, mines on standard suspension apart from rarb, it corners alot flatter and at higher speeds.

Shocked a m3 csl owner today when he tried to out corner me on a roundabout and he got the back end to unexpectedly step out, almost went into the barrier. Best thing was he had the inside line and i was on the outside

Octy dont really need a rear ARB!

Not the right suspension set up for it with the transit van cross member it has fit

It just induces more over steer and more lift off over steer which im sure anyone that knows isnt what you want.

As a rule of thumb the stiffer you make an axle the more you can exagerate the unwated effects!

Ive had a rear ARB fitted to mine and i couldnt get it to handle very good at all not even with a chuffing good set of coilovers.

IMO the mk4 Golf platform cars just dont need it, leave it fairly soft on bump and rebound on the shocks , if you have that adjustment! and not too high a spring rate and leave the ARB off!!!!

I think most vrs owners would disgaree with that statment,

infact most vag owners would disagree with that statement!

The mk1 vrs, like most vag cars was made with a bias towards understeer rather that oversteer, way too much of it! So correction towards a bit more oversteer is not an issue, if you know what you are doing. This was done by VAG (like with the early audi tt so people were not as likely to kill themselves). The rear arb mods whether whiteline, eibach neuspeed or autotech chelp correct that by adjusting the balance to a more neutral stance away from the bias.

I have spent a lot of time an effort sorting the hadling on my car, i have changed pretty much everything to tt spec on the front end, on the back end a a large part of the improvement is down to a rear arb i have fitted.

I had a big blast in the car on the way home from work last night and was shocked how different she now handles with the RARB and weitecs, I could definitely feel the front turn in more positively and the back follow suite, its was a little unnerving as I was expecting the car to drift a little wide, I could feel back tunring in more (if that makes sense?) I need to get used to the new set-up.

To me the car was feeling slower than usual but I think this was because I was carrying more speed and have got used to the new map, I even hooked up my boost gauge and did a scan for codes to check.

I will put my hands up and say I don't think the brakes are any longer up to the map and handling mods. I may need to look into an upgrade, don't get me wrong on normal driving they are fine it's just when its a bit more spirited that they are an issue. Might get some Ferodo's but the price scares me :(

Octy dont really need a rear ARB!

Not the right suspension set up for it with the transit van cross member it has fit

It just induces more over steer and more lift off over steer which im sure anyone that knows isnt what you want.

As a rule of thumb the stiffer you make an axle the more you can exagerate the unwated effects!

Ive had a rear ARB fitted to mine and i couldnt get it to handle very good at all not even with a chuffing good set of coilovers.

IMO the mk4 Golf platform cars just dont need it, leave it fairly soft on bump and rebound on the shocks , if you have that adjustment! and not too high a spring rate and leave the ARB off!!!!

Are you serious.....

I think 99% of this forum will dissagree and all the other VAG forums.

Ok it depends of what you are after from your handling, soft ride etc etc, but most folks that are fitting a RARB is to improve the handling on spirited driving and gerenal overal feedback of the car.

As OET has stated the only reason a RARB was not fitted std, was to allow more understeer, which in normal circumstances is correctable, but when you start spirited driving you will find that the rear end becomes lose and wavy and especially when cornering, that wavy feeling will get exagerated and the minute you lift off will send you the opposite way and off you go. This is even more pronounced on the longer Octy compared to the Golf/TT etc.

Fitting the RARB is the first mod to better handling on our cars, and helps correct a better bias front to rear. This alone makes the car feel more planted and controllable, with far less wavy bouncy feel from the rear end. You then find the rear will dig in better. Most folks will tell you they can feel the RARB working when taking very spiritedly , me for sure.

The only adverse effect is if you have c**p tyres and in the wet when a stiffer RARB/Rear end will slip out more, but based on those conditions folks should take things more sensible anyway. :no:

I am sure most folks will agree here.....

Better handling should be:

- RARB first

- poly bushes

- better suspension

Rear does need to match the front, or things can get a bit hectic.

I've experrience a vRS with 28mm arb on the rear and standard arb on front, not a good handling package.

With a rear anti-roll bar like that, it needed thicker front arb to match (r32 front arb for example)

The vRS defo required a R-ARB, it balances the car up nicely.

If you go too big a bar on the front (Eibach 25mm for example) you can bring on the understeer effect again.

For people with limited slip differentials they create a much flatter car than any set of coilovers, the feeling is quite unusual when the mechanical 'hook up' pulls the car round.

As a matter of interest I'm going to be experimenting with a twin rear 25mm Eibach setup..... I've acquired a second 25mm rear bar and will be incorporating this into the rear suspension....somehow!

At the end of the day OVERsteer is easily controlled, UNDERsteer isn't!

Steve

Are you serious.....

I think 99% of this forum will dissagree and all the other VAG forums.

Ok it depends of what you are after from your handling, soft ride etc etc, but most folks that are fitting a RARB is to improve the handling on spirited driving and gerenal overal feedback of the car.

As OET has stated the only reason a RARB was not fitted std, was to allow more understeer, which in normal circumstances is correctable, but when you start spirited driving you will find that the rear end becomes lose and wavy and especially when cornering, that wavy feeling will get exagerated and the minute you lift off will send you the opposite way and off you go. This is even more pronounced on the longer Octy compared to the Golf/TT etc.

Fitting the RARB is the first mod to better handling on our cars, and helps correct a better bias front to rear. This alone makes the car feel more planted and controllable, with far less wavy bouncy feel from the rear end. You then find the rear will dig in better. Most folks will tell you they can feel the RARB working when taking very spiritedly , me for sure.

The only adverse effect is if you have c**p tyres and in the wet when a stiffer RARB/Rear end will slip out more, but based on those conditions folks should take things more sensible anyway. :no:

I am sure most folks will agree here.....

Better handling should be:

- RARB first

- poly bushes

- better suspension

too true and the std octy with no RARB is proper poo in the handling dept imo. If you want a soft ride then use std suspension with the 22mm RARB and the only time you notice is in the corners. even in slow corners I can feel the rear stay level. been a long time since I have driven one of these std but I know the day I fitted it with std susp it was like a total different car.

The vRS defo required a R-ARB, it balances the car up nicely.

If you go too big a bar on the front (Eibach 25mm for example) you can bring on the understeer effect again.

For people with limited slip differentials they create a much flatter car than any set of coilovers, the feeling is quite unusual when the mechanical 'hook up' pulls the car round.

As a matter of interest I'm going to be experimenting with a twin rear 25mm Eibach setup..... I've acquired a second 25mm rear bar and will be incorporating this into the rear suspension....somehow!

At the end of the day OVERsteer is easily controlled, UNDERsteer isn't!

Steve

That sounds complicated there Ste lol good luck with that. I know what you mean with the Diff. first time I drove Amateurstuntmans old one on the way home I thought Ide have a proper go on the roundabout at Chepstow and OMG you just need the confidence to know that you just enter steady and floor it as you go round and it will just PULL PULL PULL you round that corner. the feeling is awesome coupled with the Toyo tires it had on the 17" spiders(best wheels to have imo even better than TD pro race 1.2 18"). trying to get mine to go like that but still not got everything on it from his car.

Bakc on the brakes thing tho, Pads and discs should be ample but personally I want something a little bigger under the rims. painted Green of course...

Rear does need to match the front, or things can get a bit hectic.

I've experrience a vRS with 28mm arb on the rear and standard arb on front, not a good handling package.

With a rear anti-roll bar like that, it needed thicker front arb to match (r32 front arb for example)

+1

Agreed 28mm too much for a std FARB,

22mm is good enough and some even like the 25mm.

I have the R32 FARB with 22mm RARB and could do with at least 25mm, may go 28mm.

yes 28mm def needs an uprated front bar.

23/25mm is a near perfect balance

Hi guys, bump for abit of advice.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Boxster-986-996-Brembo-Front-Brake-Calipers-C2-/300587925710?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45fc6fc0ce

Are they the right calipers im after?

What else do i need to run them?

Can i use my existing discs and just need to buy some decent pads?

Im running standard spiders still by the way.

Hi guys, bump for abit of advice.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Boxster-986-996-Brembo-Front-Brake-Calipers-C2-/300587925710?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45fc6fc0ce

Are they the right calipers im after?

What else do i need to run them?

Can i use my existing discs and just need to buy some decent pads?

Im running standard spiders still by the way.

If you are now running standard Vrs setup with 312 discs it won't be much of upgrade.

I think you'll be disappointed...

You need something bigger!

If you are now running standard Vrs setup with 312 discs it won't be much of upgrade.

I think you'll be disappointed...

You need something bigger!

thats not true....four pot brakes are a big upgrade over the standard 1 pot vrs calipers!

6 pots can be too big as the Master cylinder can struggle to cope.

those brakes with 323/5mm discs should be a big improvement assuming the pistons are not too big!