I've had my car two weeks now, (from new) and as stated many times I am enjoying it more and more every time I get in it...With that said, I am experiencing some turbo lag lower down in the rev range that I know can be mapped out of the ECU quite easily.

I like the idea of the Jabba remap, (it sounds more proffessional than just sticking an untailored chip in) However I love the idea of being able to revert to unmodified ECU settings for the odd occasion that I go out with the missus and get drunk enough to let her drive me home...

Can anyone tell me if this is possible after the Jabba remap, and also what the likely costs are for both options - rough guides.

oh yeah and 0-60 in 6.7 seconds? Quote Autocar! err not in my car at present? am I doing something wrong?

Also will Skoda find out and invalidate my warranty if I choose to go down either path.

apologies if this is going over boring terratory again!!!

Thanks?:cheers:

Yeah lots of posts on this if you hunt around a little Leon, also some stuff in the FAQ. However....

Jabba = professional, also very driveable so no worries on the Missus front - mine drives my Skud and drives just like she always did - and gets better mpg than me

Jabba is not resettable to factory settings for services. APR/Revo are, depending on what options you buy. Supachips isn't AFAIK and Upsolute is probably not for you (ask Des or Jon )

Warranty is officially invalidated if the modifications are the cause of any failures, however it does depend to some extent on your dealer and the approach they take when putting in warranty claims.

6.7 - it's widely believed that the Autocar test was done on a chipped car.

HTH

Jabba remap is

Thanks guys, I am seriously thinking about the adjustable Jabba remap. I hear what your saying about drivable enough for the wife Nick but I still like the idea of controlling the boost.

Shame about the warranty tho :-(

I use DM Keith in Bradford and when I spoke to a couple of the service people there they were pretty confident that, if I were to chip/remap the car short of major inspection there would be no way that they could tell? Not sure how true that is?

Another stupid question but....Is the remap really noticable? I mean, is it dramaitc? bear in mind that I don't want to achieve nuttah status! I just want to avoid that dreaded low end lag? and Do Skoda do an approved remap? I know Volkswagen do as I had my V5 tinkered with by them.

I would def be interested in group discount, sounds like a good idea to me, It may give a few of us a chance to compare notes during the process. thanks Adrian.

The remap is noticeable but it's not a huge step change, if you see what I mean. What I get is "more of the same" - i.e. the same curve but higher all the way up. You will still only see boost from 2000 rpm upwards.

The remap is not detectable by the standard diagnostic tools. Anyone driving the car will notice though!

There is no approved remap. There has been some discussion of this recently.

From a casual look no one can tell that your car is chipped. However for remap the EEPROM (I think this is right) is changed and the seal on the ECU broken.

Also the code from the ECU can be downloaded and checked.

So, it would be wrong to say that an ECU upgrade is undetectable.

I haven't had my remap done yet (another 3 weeks to go:D ) but I think Des summed it up well: "the same as standard but more of it".

Personally I'm having mine done to improve upon the lag and drivability.

Haven't heard of any official upgrades unfortunately. It's a pity and much lamented here.

Will start thinking about another Group remap at the end of the year. We max-ed out this year quota; Jabba said we could have 10 they actually lets us have 11. Nice, friendly people to deal with and from other people's experiences they provide excellent service.

Cheers.

Adrian.

My Jabba 220 remap is exactly as mentioned above - more of the same.

Nothing dramatic like my Impreza was over 3500rpm, but 6.5 is about right for the 'adjusted' 0-60

I think they are all much of a muchness on the std car... if you intend to perform other mods as well then a full remap will give you the best power....

Originally posted by ffelan in this post

I think they are all much of a muchness on the std car... if you intend to perform other mods as well then a full remap will give you the best power....

absolutely. just said in one sentence what i would've in 10!!

the individual nature of the jabba remap is more preferable if doing other things as can be further tweaked to take these extra factors into account.

APR et al. are very good, tried and tested products.

IIRC AVO/REVO do a standard remap which brings power upto around 212bhp and then an Optimax program which boosts upto 230bhp. Huck had this done and I think Colin has to.

AVO/REVO charge around

dont forget more people than jabba do custom remap.... not that i have anything against jabba but bythe time ive driven down there it gets a little pricey...

[quote AmD produce 212bhp for

That's interesting.........but I kind of feel that AmD's star is not shinying so brightly as it use to.

I mean they still know their stuff but are quite expensive in comparison to others; not quite the value for money us Skoda owners are used to.

Originally posted by Fabpreza in this post

AmD produce 212bhp for

bet the dealer was very chuffed!

did it take them long or was it just a case of tweaking the RS map?

Took them 10 days - you figure out whether that's "long".

Originally posted by Dutch4x4 in this post

Took them 10 days - you figure out whether that's "long".

lets hope they were not on it 8hrs per day or thats one hell of a labour bill.....

seems a long time, takes my guy about 5 hrs to map an engine from scratch?

Mike had never done an Octavia SLX before either - but he started with a similar map (I never asked him where it came from but I guess just some other VAG model using the AGU engine) and worked from there. Took him about 4 hours

Originally posted by SkodiRS in this post

Freakcrab actually owns the car Autocar tested and he says that it doesn't the claimed figures. Even Autocar acknowledge now that it wa probably tuned a little.

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At some point I'll get someone to check for any difference in my car or even try out another RS for comparison.

Anyone in the Nottingham area know anything about 1.8T engines?

You could whip your ECU out and see if it's still got the factory chip in ..... should be easy to see if it's been replaced.

surely the factory would have used the odb port rather than anything as unsubtle as soldering....

Originally posted by ffelan in this post

lets hope they were not on it 8hrs per day or thats one hell of a labour bill.....

Would it be your first priority developing a new programme for a single foreign customer, with someone else bearing the costs?

It probably went something like this:

Day 1: sending the engine code

Day 2: hey, what 1.8T is that?

Day 3: are you sure we don't have it?

Day 4: better get back to those cheeseheads and tell them

Day 5: and don't forget to tell them to take out the factory ECU and send it to us for inspection

Day 6: courier blasts down from Amsterdam to Germany

Day 7: oh, that's pretty much the RS engine

Day 8: did you have time to fix that ARX programme yet?

Day 9: hey, those cheeseheads called again, are you finished?

Day 10: yeah, yeah, I'll get to it today

Day 11: courier blasts back from Germany to Amsterdam to get there before 10am, just in time for the workshop to place into its socket and be all happy faces to the customer who has just arrived

And then I've left out the very probable tuggle on costs and responsbilities - having been kept up-to-date by the dealer I'm surprised they fixed it this quickly! :p

The salesman was obliged to do the delivery on his day off, however...

hmmm don't know. If that's the case why can't remappers like Jabba do theirs that way? I've asked Revo Kev to explain that a couple of times without success. As I understand it the map is in flash EEPROM which means you have to alter the voltage to write to it. Maybe there's a software switch to get the ECU to go into write mode and that's how Revo do it - I just don't know....

okay, so Jabba aren't the only people that offer remaps? can anyone suggest a someone up north (prefereably near Sheffield) that I can have a chat with about remapping?

Leon - Revo have distributors (not sure about the Sheffield area) and offer a 5 hour timebombed demo of their map. That might be of interest as a taster maybe? Revo will be in the links at the top.....