Furby vRS needs an oil top-up. Just hit 1500 miles. I know handbook states oil should be VW 504 00.

Just wondering what brand etc oil people have chosen to top up with? :wonder:

Furby vRS needs an oil top-up. Just hit 1500 miles. I know handbook states oil should be VW 504 00.

Just wondering what brand etc oil people have chosen to top up with? :wonder:

hmmm my handbook says 502..... anyway, I just bought some castrol edge 0-30 VW 502/505 was expensive, but is one of the best oils out there

Mines topped up with 5w 40 as that's what I was given... Will be going 5w 30 when I can though...

Castrol Edge 5w 30 is the oil of choice for every single new VAG group car going. I believe it meets the VAG criteria for both fixed and long life servicing.

PD diesels have a special oil that has to be put in it I'm pretty sure, if you dont use the right oil on those they blow up.

Edited 1 April, 201115 yr by pipsyp

From the back of the hand book its 504 for normal servicing and 502 for fixed serviceing.

Specificly which one you are to use I've no idea I went with 504 spec Castrol Edge 5-W40 IRCC.

Castrol edge to the VW 502 spec in Asda at £ 30 for 4 litres (?) is what i bought for the VRS.

Yes, there are different specs for gasoline and diesel (greater disperceny and overbasing additives for diesel) so check handbook for correct grade (i.e.xW/x) and correct grade i.e. VW 502/504/505 etc.

Honest, it does make a difference

The information your looking for can be found on page 210 and 211 in the fabia manual.

Also just looked at the bottle its EDGE 5W-30, VW 504 00 oil I'm using.

Not 5W-40 as stated incorrectly above.

The information your looking for can be found on page 210 and 211 in the fabia manual.

Also just looked at the bottle its EDGE 5W-30, VW 504 00 oil I'm using.

Not 5W-40 as stated incorrectly above.

well I'm using castrol edge 0w30 which is even better, the first number, the lower the better on cold startup, the last number, the lower the better for less friction at high temps....

well I'm using castrol edge 0w30 which is even better, the first number, the lower the better on cold startup, the last number, the lower the better for less friction at high temps....

The numbers relate to viscosity don't they? I thought that if you go too thin it can cause engine damage? Not saying 0w30 is a problem but always best to just go with recommended spec.

Castrol Edge 5w 30 is a fine choice or

QUANTUM LONG LIFE 3 ENGINE OIL 5W-30 VW 504 507 <--- lots cheaper and I've read on UKMKIVs that its the same thing just rebadged for VAG http://www.thetradepartsspecialists.co.uk/flash/quantum/product/Quantum%20LongLife%20III%205W-30%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf

Castrol Edge to VW 504 00 spec

Quantum (VW) Platinum for VW 502 00 spec

These are the 2 I have used, no problems.

The numbers relate to viscosity don't they? I thought that if you go too thin it can cause engine damage? Not saying 0w30 is a problem but always best to just go with recommended spec.

puts on anorak

Yes, the numbers do.

The XW is a measure of low temperature viscometrics measured using an instrument called a cold cranking simulator which measures the viscosity at set tempeartures as governed by SAE J300. Essentially, a 0W is good for starting an engine at ambient temperatures as low as -30 deg, 5W at -25 deg C etc.

The second number, is related to the oils viscosity at 100 deg, and the lower the mber the lighter the oil. a 30 weight is fine for the UK, temperatures do not really get that hot, however, if say in the middle east i would recommend the 40 or even a 50 weight oil if available.

i should have said that the XW grading only applies at low temperatures (though probably implied above) so in effect, a 0W/30 or 5W/30 will really have little effect at true operating temperatures, they bith being a 30 weight product.

Anorak off.

I was given some castrol magnatec 5w-30 a1 as a freebie top up .. looks fairly good spec..fully synthetic..however it doesn't have any vw specs on it seems aimed at fords !! could it do any harm in my vRS ??

I think you will find Magnatec A1 is the lowest spec going, if you look at the info on the back it says A1/B1 which is a European spec, better oils are A3/B3 and so on. American spec is API which stands for AMERICAN PETROLEUM INSTITUTE. Their spec is usually API SM/CD.

Edited 3 April, 201115 yr by roman.w

I was given some castrol magnatec 5w-30 a1 as a freebie top up .. looks fairly good spec..fully synthetic..however it doesn't have any vw specs on it seems aimed at fords !! could it do any harm in my vRS ??

Chances are it would be fine, but I would probably get hold of some 504 or 502 spec stuff just to be safe.

1l or Castrol Edge 504 spec is a tenner at ASDA

Chances are it would be fine, but I would probably get hold of some 504 or 502 spec stuff just to be safe.

1l or Castrol Edge 504 spec is a tenner at ASDA

I spotted the Edge in my local Asda the other day..but I had already been given the Magnatec..I'm not sure why it just says A1 on the front..the specs on the back also say ACEA A1/B1 but also A5/B5 which I think are the higher ones as suggested by roman above..

I spotted the Edge in my local Asda the other day..but I had already been given the Magnatec..I'm not sure why it just says A1 on the front..the specs on the back also say ACEA A1/B1 but also A5/B5 which I think are the higher ones as suggested by roman above..

Anorak on

The ACEA (european) specs are split into three clases, A, B and E. A is for gasoline, B for light diesel and E for heavy duty diesels (trucks). Cant totally recall what the the numbers refer to now, (long time since i did crank case lubes) but if i recall correctly the higher the numbers referred more to extended drain and/or type of operation such as being aimed more at predomnantly start/stop and or short journeys. The numbers also relate to the level/type of engine testing that the lubricant was subjected to during its evaluation.

API, whilst American in origin have been used for many years across the world (ACEA is relatively new at about 20 years old) and are split into just two types, S for spark ignition, gasoline and C for diesel. again, i dont recall what is the very latest API specs but the higher the letter after the S and C the more modern the requirement for which the oil is formulated. What you will find though, is that normally the oil will have two API classifications for both S and C. The one that is listed first is the type of engine the oil is best suited, so in the example above SM/CD this is for a gasoline/petrol engine predominantly and is generally a very low grade diesl engine oil (CD was around back in the 1990's).

Mnufacturers though have their own specification requirements which are nomally a slight extension over the ACEA and API requirements to which they believe are essential for the operation of the engine. As such, if the manufactuers spec required for your engine is not listed on the oil container, it is probably best to avoid ussing the product as it may not be quite right for the engine. That said, if it is just being used for top up purposes it should cause little harm.

Best bet is to stick with the same brand and grade of lubricant between servicing as far as possible. If you are unable to match the oil used at the last service, check with your handbook (i think someone said page 208) for the correct requirements as far as possible.

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The ACEA (european) specs are split into three clases, A, B and E. A is for gasoline, B for light diesel and E for heavy duty diesels (trucks). Cant totally recall what the the numbers refer to now, (long time since i did crank case lubes) but if i recall correctly the higher the numbers referred more to extended drain and/or type of operation such as being aimed more at predomnantly start/stop and or short journeys. The numbers also relate to the level/type of engine testing that the lubricant was subjected to during its evaluation.

API, whilst American in origin have been used for many years across the world (ACEA is relatively new at about 20 years old) and are split into just two types, S for spark ignition, gasoline and C for diesel. again, i dont recall what is the very latest API specs but the higher the letter after the S and C the more modern the requirement for which the oil is formulated. What you will find though, is that normally the oil will have two API classifications for both S and C. The one that is listed first is the type of engine the oil is best suited, so in the example above SM/CD this is for a gasoline/petrol engine predominantly and is generally a very low grade diesl engine oil (CD was around back in the 1990's).

Mnufacturers though have their own specification requirements which are nomally a slight extension over the ACEA and API requirements to which they believe are essential for the operation of the engine. As such, if the manufactuers spec required for your engine is not listed on the oil container, it is probably best to avoid ussing the product as it may not be quite right for the engine. That said, if it is just being used for top up purposes it should cause little harm.

Best bet is to stick with the same brand and grade of lubricant between servicing as far as possible. If you are unable to match the oil used at the last service, check with your handbook (i think someone said page 208) for the correct requirements as far as possible.

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I did a quick google :p

http://www.driverstechnologyassociation.co.uk/oils.htm

Seems to explain quite a lot.. I was just a little worried that the Magnatec did not mention the VW specs :no: But as suggested it is probably better to keep to the recommended oils for peace of mind.. Don't think I will be losing too much sleep about using the Magnatec as a top-up..

Excellent explanation Jerry, nice one.

I did a quick google :p

http://www.driverste....co.uk/oils.htm

Seems to explain quite a lot.. I was just a little worried that the Magnatec did not mention the VW specs :no: But as suggested it is probably better to keep to the recommended oils for peace of mind.. Don't think I will be losing too much sleep about using the Magnatec as a top-up..

A good piece of information abd better than my memory. The ACEA C grades are also new since i moved into a different area in petroleum. A nice find.

i went to my local halfords store and spoke to someone about the castrol oils as i asked why do some of the oils sayd vauxhall,ford and other brands on them,

they couldnt give me a answer but i remember reading somewhere on this forum to get oil thats vw rated 501,502??

i picked up some of this http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_775571_langId_-1_categoryId_165581#dtab

says VW 501.01 502.00 505.00 on the back so seems good to me.

i went to my local halfords store and spoke to someone about the castrol oils as i asked why do some of the oils sayd vauxhall,ford and other brands on them,

they couldnt give me a answer but i remember reading somewhere on this forum to get oil thats vw rated 501,502??

i picked up some of this http://www.halfords....yId_165581#dtab

says VW 501.01 502.00 505.00 on the back so seems good to me.

Yep, 502 is fine.

Hi Guys, Lots of good info here, And answers from people who seem to know what they are talking about.

So im going to ask a stupid question and lower the tone!

Im reading the manual and Page 210 says:

Petrol Engine 1.4 ltr./132 kW TSI - EU5

Specification VW 502 00

Content 3,6

I know it is customary for continental types to use Commas and seperators, So does this mean that the engine only takes 3.6 liters of oil?

Im assuming this is correct, and lower than Im used too as its only a 1.4 engine?

(Told you it was a Stupid question!)

I have done 2500 miles now, and I usually change the oil after the first 3k, so just getting prepaired for the first change...

Ended up topping with Halfords 5w30 VAG spec 504. Next time will buy some castrol or something but halfords own brand was cheapest so went with that as only small top-up required.

Hi Guys, Lots of good info here, And answers from people who seem to know what they are talking about.

So im going to ask a stupid question and lower the tone!

Im reading the manual and Page 210 says:

Petrol Engine 1.4 ltr./132 kW TSI - EU5

Specification VW 502 00

Content 3,6

I know it is customary for continental types to use Commas and seperators, So does this mean that the engine only takes 3.6 liters of oil?

Im assuming this is correct, and lower than Im used too as its only a 1.4 engine?

(Told you it was a Stupid question!)

I have done 2500 miles now, and I usually change the oil after the first 3k, so just getting prepaired for the first change...

Yep, 3.6 litres.

Ended up topping with Halfords 5w30 VAG spec 504. Next time will buy some castrol or something but halfords own brand was cheapest so went with that as only small top-up required.

Whilst the magnatec is a VW 502, also note that it is only an API SL whereas the Edge is a API SM, meeting the latest performance requirements. I note Halfords prices are pretty steep, can you get to an ASDA? i bought the 4 litre can the other week for just £ 30.