After my previous post about issues with the adjustment of the xenon headlights, we have noticed that we are getting flashed by people driving the other way.

We thought that we had set the xenon headlights too high, but following on from a near-miss we had the other night, it turns out that the cornering foglights are the cause of our problems.

The cornering "foglights" come on :-

• On one side when you are turning at low speed.

• On one side when you indicate at a speed below approximately 30mph.

• Both come on when you select reverse.

We had a very near-miss the other day, and the other irrate driver said we had flashed him to pull out, which he did almost into the front of us. Also, these "foglights" (in quotes because, as discussed before, they are actually NOT foglights due to being too high) are set very high and actually cause serious dazzle to on-coming drivers.

The car has been back to the dealers to have the cornering foglights turned off, which they said was possible. After over 1 1/2 hours of bu**ering about, they admitteed that they couldn't switch them off as they didn't know how.

Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off these cornering foglights?????

I have tried switching off the cornering headlights in the maxidot options, but this simply stops the zenon headlights cornering, but the foglights still come on as described above.

After my previous post about issues with the adjustment of the xenon headlights, we have noticed that we are getting flashed by people driving the other way.

We thought that we had set the xenon headlights too high, but following on from a near-miss we had the other night, it turns out that the cornering foglights are the cause of our problems.

The cornering "foglights" come on :-

• On one side when you are turning at low speed.

• On one side when you indicate at a speed below approximately 30mph.

• Both come on when you select reverse.

We had a very near-miss the other day, and the other irrate driver said we had flashed him to pull out, which he did almost into the front of us. Also, these "foglights" (in quotes because, as discussed before, they are actually NOT foglights due to being too high) are set very high and actually cause serious dazzle to on-coming drivers.

The car has been back to the dealers to have the cornering foglights turned off, which they said was possible. After over 1 1/2 hours of bu**ering about, they admitteed that they couldn't switch them off as they didn't know how.

Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off these cornering foglights?????

I have tried switching off the cornering headlights in the maxidot options, but this simply stops the zenon headlights cornering, but the foglights still come on as described above.

I presume it is the Elegance model? I have an S and cornering fog could be activated on VCDS and I guess deactivated as well using the same logic?

May be someone with Maxidot could help?

All the options that you see on a personal VCDS laptop are not visible to a dealer. Their computer has a very narrow range of things to tinker with. Get your car to one of the many people on this forum with a VCDS cable. There is a section on the forum listing where these people can be found.

A temporary fix until you find someone with VCDS to disable the cornering function (if it is possible) would be to drive around with your headlamp switch in the ON position. At least people won't get confused with your fog lamps and I find the xenons are quick to react and calibrate themselves well so they don't blind people.

It can be done by a Dealer or someone with VCDS.

The system that the dealer uses (VAS) is far more in depth than VCDS. VCDS is just made easier with the tick boxes.

I can't remember the exact Bytes & Bits now as I'm not near my laptop but it's in central electrics or central convenience.

The system that the dealer uses (VAS) is far more in depth than VCDS. VCDS is just made easier with the tick boxes.

Ah, I stand corrected! But it just means the dealers are too lazy to figure it all out for you! But yes the tick boxes on the VCDS were SUPER easy to change!

Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off these cornering foglights?????

I have tried switching off the cornering headlights in the maxidot options, but this simply stops the zenon headlights cornering, but the foglights still come on as described above.

According to my reading of page 57 in the manual, the cornering fog lights do not come on if the daylight driving lights (aka DRLs) are switched on. You can turn the DRLs on and off through the Maxidot.

IMO anyone who mistakes a single foglight illuminating for a number of seconds as a "flash to pull out" is being a tad too eager. They are also failing to observe rule 111 of the Highway Code: Never assume that flashing headlights is a signal inviting you to proceed. Use your own judgement and proceed carefully.

Ah, I stand corrected! But it just means the dealers are too lazy to figure it all out for you! But yes the tick boxes on the VCDS were SUPER easy to change!

It's probably not that. Normally they are pretty good with them. But if it's not something they dont do a lot then they might not know where to look.

You have to remember that the system accesses all VAG cars from all years since they started using OBD (circa 1993). Things move around and change between cars and years so it's made harder for them to find something they are not used to doing.

But some dealers are too lazy to try so credit to the OP's dealer for perservering for so long to try and do it.

According to my reading of page 57 in the manual, the cornering fog lights do not come on if the daylight driving lights (aka DRLs) are switched on. You can turn the DRLs on and off through the Maxidot.

IMO anyone who mistakes a single foglight illuminating for a number of seconds as a "flash to pull out" is being a tad too eager. They are also failing to observe rule 111 of the Highway Code: Never assume that flashing headlights is a signal inviting you to proceed. Use your own judgement and proceed carefully.

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We've had this discussion before... (and it usually digresses into THAT topic and before we know it the whole thread is OFF TOPIC. )

The cornering fogs phase in and out very slowly. So a person mistaking that single phasing light for a high beam twin light flash (to proceed) is a total fool with his/her mind somewhere totally other than on his/her driving or with NO knowledge of the Highway code's basics as ejstubbs just mentioned.

According to my reading of page 57 in the manual, the cornering fog lights do not come on if the daylight driving lights (aka DRLs) are switched on. You can turn the DRLs on and off through the Maxidot.

IMO anyone who mistakes a single foglight illuminating for a number of seconds as a "flash to pull out" is being a tad too eager. They are also failing to observe rule 111 of the Highway Code: Never assume that flashing headlights is a signal inviting you to proceed. Use your own judgement and proceed carefully.

And I think never assume that other drivers are as closely conversant with the Highway Code as others...Flashing lights in the real world mean - move over, hi, you've got the same car as me, pull out, don't pull out, I am here, come through etc. Context is all- or should be.

I thought the cornering fog lights, and they are fog lights, even if they are higher than most other cars, should be turned off if you un-tick the cornering function in the maxidot. If not maybe something is not right?

I think i'm missing something here.

If you're driving along in a straight line, how is someone going to pull out in front of you ?

The cornering lights only come on when you're......err....cornering?

The DRL's I agree with ,and I've deactivated mine for that very reason.:wonder:

If the car has AFS then the cornering fogs cannot be disabled as they form a key part of the system.

I thought the cornering fog lights, and they are fog lights, even if they are higher than most other cars, should be turned off if you un-tick the cornering function in the maxidot. If not maybe something is not right?

I tried this and it just turns off the cornering headlights. Our Yeti, Elegance model, has xenon headlights that steer around corners.

I think i'm missing something here.

If you're driving along in a straight line, how is someone going to pull out in front of you ?

The cornering lights only come on when you're......err....cornering?

The cornering fogs actually come on when you are indicating below a certain speed even if you are going in a staright line.

The guy pulled out on us as we were indicating to turn right into the road where he was waiting to exit. He thought we had flashed him so pulled out just as were were about to turn right across the front of him.

Very, very near miss.

Also, the cornering foglights only activate when the headlights are on, and the DRL's only work when ALL other lights are off.

The cornering fogs actually come on when you are indicating below a certain speed even if you are going in a staright line.

Also, the cornering foglights only activate when the headlights are on, and the DRL's only work when ALL other lights are off.

I am also stil a bit confused despite your clear statements (Haven't got my Yeti yet).:-

If you are driving with headlights on and manual foglight switch turned off - do the cornering fog lights still come on in the circumstances you say above - it seems that you indicate that they DO.

If so - what about the law that fog lights should only be used when necessary - ie in a fog ?.

I am also stil a bit confused despite your clear statements (Haven't got my Yeti yet).:-

If you are driving with headlights on and manual foglight switch turned off - do the cornering fog lights still come on in the circumstances you say above - it seems that you indicate that they DO.

If so - what about the law that fog lights should only be used when necessary - ie in a fog ?.

There is confusion caused by the terminology that people are using. The round lens, about 6" in diameter, below the headlights, covers two bulbs. One of these is a foglight, and that only comes on when the foglight switch is turned on (and should, as you suggest, only be used in fog). The other performs this 'peeping round corners' function as people have described. I tend to leave my lights switched to 'auto' ... DRLs are on, and dipped beam comes on when needed. I choose if I want main beam or fogs on, but aside from that leave it to what I think is a well designed system. I've never had any issues/problems with any other road users (apart from the occasional helpful soul telling me a bulb has gone because I've only got one light on at the front).

Edited 19 April, 201115 yr by Bobdog

I am also stil a bit confused despite your clear statements (Haven't got my Yeti yet).:-

If you are driving with headlights on and manual foglight switch turned off - do the cornering fog lights still come on in the circumstances you say above - it seems that you indicate that they DO.

If so - what about the law that fog lights should only be used when necessary - ie in a fog ?.

Hi,

cornering fog lights only work under set parameters laid out in some EU directive.

1. your headlights need to be turned on (manual or Auto lights control)

2. fog lights turned off

3. speed of vehicle no more than 40km/h

4. indicating a change of direction or turning the steering wheel, will illuminate the front fog light on the side of the direction of change

5. in reverse gear both front fog lights will illuminate

Hope that helps,

TP

It can be done by a Dealer or someone with VCDS.

The system that the dealer uses (VAS) is far more in depth than VCDS. VCDS is just made easier with the tick boxes.

I can't remember the exact Bytes & Bits now as I'm not near my laptop but it's in central electrics or central convenience.

I'm not so sure. I wasn't able to turn cornering foglamps on an Octavia but someone with VCDS can so if they say they aren't able to turn them off on VAS then I wouldn't doubt them too much. A lot of the things you can do on VCDS we can't do they are greyed out and no changeable by us.

If so - what about the law that fog lights should only be used when necessary - ie in a fog ?.

These lights are called fog lights when BOTH are lit up. They are cornering fog lights when ONE comes on.

There is confusion caused by the terminology that people are using. The round lens, about 6" in diameter, below the headlights, covers two bulbs. One of these is a foglight, and that only comes on when the foglight switch is turned on (and should, as you suggest, only be used in fog). The other performs this 'peeping round corners' function as people have described.

Not correct sorry. The top bulb is a long life bulb and ONLY acts as a DRL. The bottom two thirds of the round lights are the fog lights and exactly as the brochure calls it, it is the fog lights that come one ONE AT A TIME to do the cornering fog function. The DRLs do NOT come on to do the cornering lighting.

These lights are called fog lights when BOTH are lit up. They are cornering fog lights when ONE comes on.

Not correct sorry. The top bulb is a long life bulb and ONLY acts as a DRL. The bottom two thirds of the round lights are the fog lights and exactly as the brochure calls it, it is the fog lights that come one ONE AT A TIME to do the cornering fog function. The DRLs do NOT come on to do the cornering lighting.

I bow to your undoubted wisdom and superior knowledge master.

I bow to your undoubted wisdom and superior knowledge master.

:rofl: NO!!! LOL Our combined wisdom answers all the questions.

The DRLs have very, very little light spread as they are not designed to light up the road. They only send out just enough luminance to make the car visible in daylight and use as little power as possible. Hence the fogs doing the lighting up thing (in darkness).

I am also stil a bit confused despite your clear statements (Haven't got my Yeti yet).:-

If you are driving with headlights on and manual foglight switch turned off - do the cornering fog lights still come on in the circumstances you say above - it seems that you indicate that they DO.

If so - what about the law that fog lights should only be used when necessary - ie in a fog ?.

Yes they come on whenever the main headlights are on (either being switched on manually or in the auto mode when the lights come on in the dark).

There has been some comments about the lights technically not being foglights as they are actually above the height allowed for fogs.

All I know is they are dazzling oncoming drivers and making drivers think we have flashed them (even though only one light is on!)

There has been some comments about the lights technically not being foglights as they are actually above the height allowed for fogs.

All I know is they are dazzling oncoming drivers and making drivers think we have flashed them (even though only one light is on!)

Have a look at some Jaguars and top line Mercs and Audis. You won't spot ANY foglamps in the lower bumper... Because the foglamps are part of the main light unit and at exactly the same height as those on a Yeti (which are lower than the main lights to compensate for the fact that the Yeti has a higher ground clearance). So too high they certainly are not nor would any car made in the EU be sold with anything on it that does not comply with all the legislation.

But I see your frustration and the potential confusion. So as stated before get someone with a VCDS to switch it off for you.

Have a look at some Jaguars and top line Mercs and Audis. You won't spot ANY foglamps in the lower bumper... Because the foglamps are part of the main light unit and at exactly the same height as those on a Yeti (which are lower than the main lights to compensate for the fact that the Yeti has a higher ground clearance). So too high they certainly are not nor would any car made in the EU be sold with anything on it that does not comply with all the legislation.

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