sorry if this has been asked before. Has anyone tried one of these on a vrs?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130434291325&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

thanks

John

Hi John

A well designed, efficient SMIC such as the OEM one fitted to your car is far superior to poorly designed, inefficient FMIC.

lol at the claim it can "make up to 450bhp".

Bill.

Hi John

A well designed, efficient SMIC such as the OEM one fitted to your car is far superior to poorly designed, inefficient FMIC.

lol at the claim it can "make up to 450bhp".

Bill.

cheers. thought as much. you get what you pay for I quess.

One mod which may be worth doing for free to improve airflow through if taking the drivers side wheel arch liner off and drilling a few good sized holes in, ala

This will allow air to move through the intercooler more freely without it getting backed up

Edited 20 April, 201115 yr by Liverpool-Lad

One mod which may be worth doing for free to improve airflow through if taking the drivers side wheel arch liner off and drilling a few good sized holes in, ala

This will allow air to move through the intercooler more freely without it getting backed up

I have wondered about this myself, nice big gaping hole at the front, through the cooler, then where is the equally un-impeded exit?

Tom

One mod which may be worth doing for free to improve airflow through if taking the drivers side wheel arch liner off and drilling a few good sized holes in, ala

This will allow air to move through the intercooler more freely without it getting backed up

funny enough that was my next mod, as some tt's have slats made already.

While you're there, give the wheelarches a good clean out after removing the liner, suprising how much crud gets in there causing potential rot!

Hi John

A well designed, efficient SMIC such as the OEM one fitted to your car is far superior to poorly designed, inefficient FMIC.

lol at the claim it can "make up to 450bhp".

Bill.

it says "Intercooler can handle upto 450 BHP"

but yer i agree its probably poo lol

Stay away from these I had mine mapped with one and there far worse than standard...The heat soak is unreal..

i have this one fitted to my car http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FMIC-SKODA-OCTAVIA-VRS-1-8T-TURBO-INTERCOOLER-KIT-/400154478306?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d2b10c6e2 along with a miltek turbo back, induction kit, 4bar fpr, mapped and mine pulled a nice 238bhp/262lbf

Got similar fitted to mine, no probs on the install, no probs on performance...

I found a small amount of bumper and inner wheel arch liner cutting was required, but all in all, easy days work to fit...

I can do some logs of the intake temps if you wish to see how the cooling goes....

it's not just the intake temps, it's the heat soak and recovery time after acceleration as well

Hi John

A well designed, efficient SMIC such as the OEM one fitted to your car is far superior to poorly designed, inefficient FMIC.

lol at the claim it can "make up to 450bhp".

Bill.

I disagree with this quote i have a toyo sports FMIC fitted to mine had no problems with heatsoak nor are they poo as someone else said :wonder: they infact work very well so go ahead buy one if you need any advice pm me or rob clubley as he has one fitted also or any other member on here that has one fitted

Mine was a cheap Ebay job from China. Still haven't dyno'd since fitting it though.

Butt dyno says it made a small improvement.

It was a nightmare to fit though. Had to modify several bits.

Full story here:

http://www.pimpmyskoda.co.uk/V2Images/ModsEngine/FMIC.htm

I disagree with this quote i have a toyo sports FMIC fitted to mine had no problems with heatsoak nor are they poo as someone else said :wonder: they infact work very well so go ahead buy one if you need any advice pm me or rob clubley as he has one fitted also or any other member on here that has one fitted

lol, vrs180 is a clever man, and is well versed in things like this!

besides, cheap intercoolers are cheap for a reason! that intercooler is not much larger than the old behr cored intercoolers fitted to sierra and escort RS cosworths, and they aren't rated to 450bhp, even though the core on these will be much more efficient.

I disagree with this quote i have a toyo sports FMIC fitted to mine had no problems with heatsoak nor are they poo as someone else said :wonder: they infact work very well so go ahead buy one if you need any advice pm me or rob clubley as he has one fitted also or any other member on here that has one fitted

I think he was refering to the cheap ebay FMIC and not all FMIC's in general, but of course I may be wrong, which tends to happen alot :S

I had a ebay fmic on a old 306 dturbo back in the day. Used to run stupid boost on that thing, something like 28psi lol.

Intercooler worked fine!

All intercoolers will get some sort of heat soak, obviously the better priced ones will get cooler quicker (in theory) But if know one has any proper hard evidence dont take everyones word for it

I disagree with this quote i have a toyo sports FMIC fitted to mine had no problems with heatsoak nor are they poo as someone else said :wonder: they infact work very well so go ahead buy one if you need any advice pm me or rob clubley as he has one fitted also or any other member on here that has one fitted

Hi Andy

Just to clarify, I was'nt saying all FMIC's are inefficient, in fact I replaced the OEM SMIC on my car many years ago with a more efficient FMIC that was more appropriately sized to suit my engines increased AF requirements over stock.

However what I will say is, all "air to air" intercoolers have a very difficult job to do, and need to be very well designed and appropriately sized to effectively cool the charged/heated air leaving the turbo, to as close to the ambient air temperature as possible.....and all "air to air" IC's (bar non) will fail to do so.

The IC's job is made difficult due to the fact that the charged air passing through the intercooler core can be travelling at a speed/velocity in excess of 400 feet per second, which does'nt allow much time for even the most efficient, well designed intercooler to do its job effectively.

Then there's the cooling medium itself to consider "ambient air" or as some call it "road draft air" it's a very poor cooling medium and has only 10% the thermol conductivity of water.

When you take these two factors into consideration (and beleive me there is so much more to it than that lol) you can maybe start to appreciate why fitting any random sized, cheap SMIC or FMIC of an unkown construction and core density, and expecting it to work efficiently...is maybe expecting a bit too much.

HTH

Bill.

Edited 26 April, 201115 yr by vrs180

thanks guys,

anyone got before and after figures for the forge unit? fmic possibly smic?

ta

bite the bullet and buy a forge

bite the bullet and buy a forge

+1, i have tested the temps on my forge fmic, it was sunny day 18°C, intake temp was 21-24°C. After 4 runs on the dyno the power didn`t drop at all

mine was on while my car was being mapped after 4 or 5 runs while we were getting logs the intake temp never went above 24 degrees (before and after mapping) so in my opinion there pretty good

+2 - buy the Forge, quality kit that will actually fit

+2 - buy the Forge, quality kit that will actually fit

only if your fecking loaded!!!

After all the mucking about I did to get mine to fit it ended up costing close to the Forge price.

They apparently give great discounts if you phone them.