I think you can get the book figures on these larger engined Octavias, not as confident about the Greenlines, tht sounds like a challenge.

I've seen some pretty impressive fuel economy figures quoted here for both 1.8 TSi and VRS, but I don't seem to be able to get anywhere near them in my 1.8TSi manual (with remap).

The absolute best economy I've seen on the computer was 45mpg when doing a lot of driving on slow highland roads where the speed was 40mph max. Long runs at motorway speeds can get 40mpg on the computer (more like 37 mpg in reality), and the daily driving average is more like 37mpg (34/35 in reality) which gives a range of approx 400 miles. The remap hasn't changed the fuel ecomomy. Strangely, I generally seem to get better economy driving in town (light traffic) than I do on motorway runs.

From my experience a real 40mpg may be possible in the right circumstances, but I have trouble believing figures of 45 - 50 mpg even if you are slip streaming a lorry.

TBH cruelly honest if mpg is your priority then buying a 200hp 150mph hatchback possibly wasn't the best move.

I have a TFSI and I get 35mpg if I'm lucky and that's on super unleaded.

You'll get better than that on normal fuel in a TSI.

If you read my op you will see I actually wanted to go for a diesel in the first place. Purely asking if it does get better as the engine gets worn in.

Would be good to keep this on topic actually as I'm seriously considering swapping my 330d for a mkV Golf GTI. I would hope it could achieve 30mpg under the same conditions my 330d does 39mpg.

From comments here that doesn't seem unreasonable.

Would be good to keep this on topic actually as I'm seriously considering swapping my 330d for a mkV Golf GTI. I would hope it could achieve 30mpg under the same conditions my 330d does 39mpg.

From comments here that doesn't seem unreasonable.

Which revision 330d you running? 204bhp?

If you're considering the Golf, why not an Octavia instead?

Yeah 204bhp.

We've just got an Octavia for the wife/as the main family car so I don't need anything as big as the 330d anymore.

I'm fancying a Golf as the Octavia has reminded me how good VAG products are.

The reason we chose the Octavia over a Golf was space, economy, price new and equipment levels.

Since we already have the Octavia those things aren't as important for my second car. I think the Golf looks nicer and when not needing to use the sensible head it ticks more boxes than the Octavia.

I probably won't end up changing as I can't afford to add any cash to what I'd get for my 330d and that would mean I'd only be able to get a Golf which is a year or two newer than my car. Perhaps better to stick with the devil you know...... it's nice to look and daydream though

If you read my op you will see I actually wanted to go for a diesel in the first place. Purely asking if it does get better as the engine gets worn in.

In that case, no.

I've never notice any difference. That only really seems to apply to diesels.

Hmmm! Would that be the probe sent to one of Saturns's moons?

Spot on, Cassini.

Now that is rocket science. To insert an object between two of the rings of Saturn, with an accuracy of a few thousand meters, from three quarter a billion miles away in an enviroment temperature of around -200C after several planet/sun slingslots, wow!

Back to topic, yes mpg gets better after a few thousand miles and then declines after quite a few tens of thousands of miles depending on how hard the engine works. The onboard computer measurements will always be comprised by their metrological process, particularly distance travelled based on axle/wheel rotation wich can be vary by about 5% as the tyre wears making measurement vague. Even petrol pumps have a tolerance.

One of the many reason I went for petrol was that technology is moving so fast that I would only keep a petrol 2 or 3 years rather than 4 or 5 for a diesel and with fuel consumptions improving so quickly I can replace the car sooner if I have not spent so much on a diesel. That said my 130hp 1.9D does fantastic fuel consumption ie 55 to 60 mpg but still goes like a scalded cat and it has 104K on the clock!

Edited 11 May, 201115 yr by lol

On long runs the TSI VRS is capable of 50 mpg (on the computer) at reasonable speeds criusing at 70 mph

Which are you talking about reasonable speeds or 70mph?

Seriously though folks I'm going on a long early morning motorway drive this week in my TSi VRS.

In the interests of science and truth I will try and drive smoothly at a constant 70mph for say the first 50 miles. I'll report on the display average mpg.

Friends,

if this thread applies to only VRS, I apologise - but the title refers to MPG, does it not? :yes:

I've had my Octavia MPI Estate for a week now, and I've driven less than 300 miles. So far my dashboard records 40mpg, which ain't bad I suppose. Like the original poster, I'm also expecting more mpg in the long term. Why? Because I'm a boring old fart who likes to drive between 50-60mph.

In a few weeks time, I'll be going to visit my son in Newport Gwent ( his car by the way is a Honda Integra Type R - which goes like a rocket ship! ), I intend sticking to the speed limit, to see what mpg I'll get up the M4. Anyways, I have no excuse for breaking speed records, as I don't want my driving licence decorated with points or any rubbish like that!

Frank.

Friends,

if this thread applies to only VRS, I apologise - but the title refers to MPG, does it not? :yes:

I've had my Octavia MPI Estate for a week now, and I've driven less than 300 miles. So far my dashboard records 40mpg, which ain't bad I suppose. Like the original poster, I'm also expecting more mpg in the long term. Why? Because I'm a boring old fart who likes to drive between 50-60mph.

In a few weeks time, I'll be going to visit my son in Newport Gwent ( his car by the way is a Honda Integra Type R - which goes like a rocket ship! ), I intend sticking to the speed limit, to see what mpg I'll get up the M4. Anyways, I have no excuse for breaking speed records, as I don't want my driving licence decorated with points or any rubbish like that!

Frank.

Open to all and welcome Frank. I would imagine you'll get 50mpg on a run at those kind of speeds.

On long runs the TSI VRS is capable of 50 mpg (on the computer) at reasonable speeds criusing at 70 mph and having an average journey speed of 65 mph when taking in to account suburban areas and motorway speed restricted area. Range I have seen on the car computer is 630 miles at best.

Which are you talking about reasonable speeds or 70mph?

Seriously though folks I'm going on a long early morning motorway drive this week in my TSi VRS.

In the interests of science and truth I will try and drive smoothly at a constant 70mph for say the first 50 miles. I'll report on the display average mpg.

OK here goes:

I drove fifty miles from 5:15 this morning in my VRS TSI on motorway and dual carriageway at a steady indicated 70mph. There was very little traffic and therefore very little braking and re-acceleration required. It involved one roundabout. The climate control was off (a bit chilly the outside temp was reading 4.5C at one point). I did use cruise, however under the circumstances I can't see that it would make much difference. The car was filled with Tesco Momentum 99 which is arguably the best fuel available for top economy.

At the end of the 50 miles my average speed on the Maxidot was 67mph and the Average MPG was:

40.1 mpg

As this was a test under some very favourable conditions I do find it very difficult to believe anyone could get 50mpg out of a TSI VRS with this average speed on the motorway over an equivalent prolonged test.

I really can't see how any of the economy techniques I've seen expounded on this site can increase your mpg by 25% over a test already under unrealistically favourable conditions.

That being said after coming off the motorway I was behind a caravan for 4 miles (which probably provided an element of slipstreaming) on a very flat stretch of road at an average speed of 44mph and the average consumption showed 53mpg. Then I overtook and it plunged....

So the TSI can return remarkable economy by being driven very slowly, but lets not forget a diesel would probably have achieved 65+ mpg in the same behind caravan situation. I had a Fiat Punto 1.9 JTD ten years ago that would do 75mpg under those conditions.

Normally on a long motorway run I get 30-35 mpg and I'm well pleased with that.

Edited 13 May, 201115 yr by juan27

You think thats bad, i got a merc C270 and average 30-35 round town and 40-45 on motorway driven then i get few people swearing blind they car will do a combine of 60mpg on a big saloon auto :wonder:

The average fuel consumption on my 06 petrol vrs is 28mpg over the 2300 miles covered from when I bought it. That includes the odd thraping but mostly sensible stop start and gentle sub 60mph commuting, and a bi weekly 200 mile M way cruise.

OK here goes:

I drove fifty miles from 5:15 this morning in my VRS TSI on motorway and dual carriageway at a steady indicated 70mph. There was very little traffic and therefore very little braking and re-acceleration required. It involved one roundabout. The climate control was off (a bit chilly the outside temp was reading 4.5C at one point). I did use cruise, however under the circumstances I can't see that it would make much difference. The car was filled with Tesco Momentum 99 which is arguably the best fuel available for top economy. At the end of the 50 miles my average speed on the Maxidot was 67mph and the Average MPG was:

40.1 mpg

As this was a test under some very favourable conditions I do find it very difficult to believe anyone could get 50mpg out of a TSI VRS with this average speed on the motorway over an equivalent prolonged test. I really can't see how any of the economy techniques I've seen expounded on this site can increase your mpg by 25% over a test already under unrealistically favourable conditions.

That being said after coming off the motorway I was behind a caravan for 4 miles (which probably provided an element of slipstreaming) on a very flat stretch of road at an average speed of 44mph and the average consumption showed 53mpg. Then I overtook and it plunged.... So the TSI can return remarkable economy by being driven very slowly, but lets not forget a diesel would probably have achieved 65+ mpg in the same behind caravan situation. I had a Fiat Punto 1.9 JTD ten years ago that would do 75mpg under those conditions.

Normally on a long motorway run I get 30-35 mpg and I'm well pleased with that.

I will try and take some photos of our VRS TSI and 1.8 TSI DSG displays. Points I would make:

- My journeys are usually 100-200 miles, average fuel consumption continues to improves during all this period as the first 5 miles in a petrol and 10 miles in a diesel are usual about half of what is achieavable and therefore the more miles you do after the initial stage the better it get.

- I use highly foresighted driving techniques and freewheeling for parts of the joureys. On the M40 particularly there are several long hills so wind it up to about 80 mph on the clock and let it free wheel for about a mile. Very easy to do in the 7 speed DSG, less so in manual VRS.

- I have Brigstone Potenzas only the DSG and Mich PS3 on the VRS, both quite low rolling resistance. Usually set closer to fully loaded pressure.

- I do go on the bluetooth phone quite often and when I do I usual slip in to the truck traffic at 55 mph and only emerge to the 70-80 mph traffic when the call is over.

- Both are cars are Face Lift Octavias which have a lower drag coeeficient than Pre Face lift (hence TSI VRS does 150 mph compared to Pre's 149 with same power).

I do not actually primarily do it to save fuel as I have a fuel card a simply do not want to stop and waist the time as if I get home I can fill up at Tesco and get points which gives me about £200 a year in vouchers.

Fuel consumption primarily gets better with a change of driving technique, right tyres at right pressure. Please nobody start up about free wheeling using fuel rather than saving it as I see no point about going in to preseversation of momentum, internal engine drag effects and there is lots of threads to this on this and other sites.

I will try and take some photos of our VRS TSI and 1.8 TSI DSG displays. Points I would make:

- My journeys are usually 100-200 miles, average fuel consumption continues to improves during all this period as the first 5 miles in a petrol and 10 miles in a diesel are usual about half of what is achieavable and therefore the more miles you do after the initial stage the better it get.

- I use highly foresighted driving techniques and freewheeling for parts of the joureys. On the M40 particularly there are several long hills so wind it up to about 80 mph on the clock and let it free wheel for about a mile. Very easy to do in the 7 speed DSG, less so in manual VRS.

- I have Brigstone Potenzas only the DSG and Mich PS3 on the VRS, both quite low rolling resistance. Usually set closer to fully loaded pressure.

- I do go on the bluetooth phone quite often and when I do I usual slip in to the truck traffic at 55 mph and only emerge to the 70-80 mph traffic when the call is over.

- Both are cars are Face Lift Octavias which have a lower drag coeeficient than Pre Face lift (hence TSI VRS does 150 mph compared to Pre's 149 with same power).

I do not actually primarily do it to save fuel as I have a fuel card a simply do not want to stop and waist the time as if I get home I can fill up at Tesco and get points which gives me about £200 a year in vouchers.

Fuel consumption primarily gets better with a change of driving technique, right tyres at right pressure. Please nobody start up about free wheeling using fuel rather than saving it as I see no point about going in to preseversation of momentum, internal engine drag effects and there is lots of threads to this on this and other sites.

Please don't muddy the waters by talking about your 1.8, its your claims for the VRS I find unbelievable and felt I had to put to the test.

Yesterday my car was warmed up before joining the motorway and resetting the figures.

I purposely chose nearly empty roads to avoid braking and acceleration and its a FL model.

I was not carrying any significant cargo or passengers.

I didn't check the tyre pressures beforehand but I have since and they weren't far out.

I have the OEM Contis on my car. I don't know how they compare for rolling resistance with your Michelins but as PS3s are a performance tyre rather than specifically an energy saver I'm not sure there's much in that.

Even under the extremely favourable circumstances of my test I'm not saying I personally should be able to achieve the best results possible, but I should get within 20%.

So unless driving in traffic and slowing/braking to use the phone and then accelerating back to speed is somehow more economical than constant speed on an empty road I still can't see how you can claim to get 50mpg within the constraints discussed unless you are travelling predominantly downhill.

Once again please remember I am talking about the VRS.

Notwithstanding lol's potentially unique economy driving abilities is anyone else getting anywhere near 50mpg on the motorway in a Petrol TSI VRS? 45 even?

Edited 14 May, 201115 yr by juan27

Please don't muddy the waters by talking about your 1.8, its your claims for the VRS I find unbelievable and felt I had to put to the test.

Yesterday my car was warmed up before joining the motorway and resetting the figures. I purposely chose nearly empty roads to avoid braking and acceleration and its a FL model. I was not carrying any significant cargo or passengers. I didn't check the tyre pressures beforehand but I have since and they weren't far out. I have the OEM Contis on my car. I don't know how they compare for rolling resistance with your Michelins but as PS3s are a performance tyre rather than specifically an energy saver I'm not sure there's much in that. Even under the extremely favourable circumstances of my test I'm not saying I personally should be able to achieve the best results possible, but I should get within 20%.

So unless driving in traffic and slowing/braking to use the phone and then accelerating back to speed is somehow more economical than constant speed on an empty road I still can't see how you can claim to get 50mpg within the constraints discussed unless you are travelling predominantly downhill. Once again please remember I am talking about the VRS. Notwithstanding lol's potentially unique economy driving abilities is anyone else getting anywhere near 50mpg on the motorway in a Petrol TSI VRS? 45 even?

I drove about 15K miles in the TSI VRS as I had to wait for my 1.8TSI DSG L&K, it only had about 5K on the clock when I started to use it. I had a quite run ,very early morning from Worcester to Tilbury, mostly down the M40 at about 70 mph until the M25 and then mostly around 55 mph round the M25 as its had load of road works. A few stints of freewheeling I recall. Cannot remember the wind direction but may well of being a SouthWesterly as that is the predominant direction. A strongish wind can make a difference if with a car with a aerodynamic drag coefficient of 0.308. The TSI VRS has an extra urban quoted consumption of 48 mpg, tank size 12.1 gallons, range therefore is 580 miles, I have achieved 570 miles on the computer range, sure it would have got it to 580 on some journeys. Amazing the fuel consumption when coming back from the Hawthornes sometimes ie dropping from 550 feet to about 75 in Worcester, fuel consumption can be 45 mpg coming back but 35 mpg going up there (in the TSI VRS for clarification). Boing boing. I can also get close to the 53 mpg for the 1.8 TSI 7 speed DSG which use the same EA888 engine just with an 8.7 mm shorter stroke giving 640 mile range.

Edited 14 May, 201115 yr by lol

800 miles and 4 fill ups is not right surely. youmust be driving everywhere in 1st and asecond to manage that surely.

in my octavia around the nurburing, so if i wasnt flat out i was braking, i was refilling every 10 laps from full, so about 145miles so around 10mpg, and your only averaging around an extra 55 miles/tank!!!!!!. so if your only averaging around 200/tank thats around 14mpg.

does the Op mind if i talk about my fabia in here, it seems to be the going trend for this thread lol

Couldn't resist adding my thoughts to the debate.

I currently drive a 1.8 TSi Octavia 4x4 estate (purchased from a certain southern Skoda main dealer - thanks James!). It currently has 5K miles on the clock. It averages around 30 mpg with a combination of 50% urban / 50% motorway driving. The best I've ever managed (tank average) is around 32 mpg. My last 2 journeys were ~40 miles on the motorway (in a rush) - OBC said 32.8 mpg, on the way back I drove very sedately and it said 39.8 mpg on my return leg. The car is fairly quick and the extra traction afforded by the 4x4 system actually makes it quite entertaining. I imagine with a cheeky remap and vRS suspension it would make a very discreet package.

I did previously own a 1.8 TSi Octavia hatchback for 10K miles back in 2008 and this was probably 10% more fuel efficient than the 4x4. It averaged low 30's and the best I ever saw was just over 40 mpg.

The same debate is raging on the Yeti forum. Some members are quoting 40-50 mpg out of the 1.2 TSi, whereas the best I ever saw over 10K miles was low to mid 30's.

My fuelly link below reveals all.

Couldn't resist adding my thoughts to the debate. I currently drive a 1.8 TSi Octavia 4x4 estate (purchased from a certain southern Skoda main dealer - thanks James!). It currently has 5K miles on the clock. It averages around 30 mpg with a combination of 50% urban / 50% motorway driving. The best I've ever managed (tank average) is around 32 mpg. My last 2 journeys were ~40 miles on the motorway (in a rush) - OBC said 32.8 mpg, on the way back I drove very sedately and it said 39.8 mpg on my return leg. The car is fairly quick and the extra traction afforded by the 4x4 system actually makes it quite entertaining. I imagine with a cheeky remap and vRS suspension it would make a very discreet package.

I did previously own a 1.8 TSi Octavia hatchback for 10K miles back in 2008 and this was probably 10% more fuel efficient than the 4x4. It averaged low 30's and the best I ever saw was just over 40 mpg. The same debate is raging on the Yeti forum. Some members are quoting 40-50 mpg out of the 1.2 TSi, whereas the best I ever saw over 10K miles was low to mid 30's. My fuelly link below reveals all.

Technology improves each year almost. The EA888 engine is a bit better than the EA113, the FL is a bit better than the Pre-FL, the 7 speed DSG is a revelation. 7th Gear is so high but the torque for the 1.8 TSI ie starting at 1500 rpm makes for very easy hyper-miling.

But honesty time, yes I have done upper 40s in the TSI VRS and low 50s in the 1.8 TSI but these were probably advantageous conditions. I tend not to reset my register 2 on my onboard computer I over the last whatever it is, about 50 hours, and 3000 miles the 1.8 TSI is showing exactly 40 mpg. Now I bought the 1.8 TSI DSG for its acceleration and not only good fuel consumption and I do, quite often, spin it up to well in to UK illegal numbers and often travel at maximum tolerence and hope the 80 mph speed limit comes in so I can travel at up to 90 mph including tolerance. Might have to buy a 5 or 6 cylinder diesel then so I can do the speed without having so short a range it becomes a pain. D5 C30 maybe unless skoda comes up with a quicker diesel in the meantime.

Edited 14 May, 201115 yr by lol

Getting back to the real world for a moment:

MPG of my 1.8TSI is definitely improving as the miles mount. In the first 3 months or so (3000 miles) it was rare to see 40mpg on the maxidot journey average and the average fuel consumption (by fuel usage) was around 34mpg.

Over the next 4 months and 4500 miles it has become increasingly common to see 40+mpg on the journey average and the mpg has risen to an average of just over 36mpg for that 4500 miles.

How much of that is due to the engine loosening up and how much is just because the weather got warmer? Only time and next winter will tell.

My 2p.

I've had my car (2010 vRS TSI DSG) for a couple of months and 1500 miles or so and my trip computer average is 36mpg. I do quite a few really short trips which read 20-25mpg but when going longer distance the average is around 40mpg with the motorway sections being comfortably over 40mpg. That's running on V-Power.

Aha! At last an admission that you have been somewhat economical with the truth in your outlandish claims - though your admission is not really required.

Now that is entirely feasible! Assuming your computer has the same optimistic offset as mine that equates to a true 37.8mpg. That is pretty much in line with the mpg from my 1.8TSI DSG over the last 3000 miles - brim to brim figures between 34.2 and 39.5 with an average of 36.8mpg. Maxidot figures over the same 3000 miles between 37.3 and 41.7 with an average of 38.9mpg.

Welcome back to reality lol

It really is wierd. Down to Heathrow today (1.8 TSI DSG rather than VRS today), did toddle, mostly 65-70 mph down, 50 mph on M25 as variable limits on, a few miles through suberbia to get to Heathrow office but fill up at Tescos Feltham. Average fuel consumption 52.5 mpg, range shown after fill up 625 miles.

Zoomed back most 70-75 mph ish, 42.8 mpg on the computer. Does seem a cubic rule, 10% faster 30% more fuel!

My 2p.

I've had my car (2010 vRS TSI DSG) for a couple of months and 1500 miles or so and my trip computer average is 36mpg. I do quite a few really short trips which read 20-25mpg but when going longer distance the average is around 40mpg with the motorway sections being comfortably over 40mpg. That's running on V-Power.

Interesting, what kind of real average speed are we talking about for over 40mpg? In the manual I can honestly say the only time in real world driving I would see over 40mpg average on the motorway is through the 50 mph average speed cameras at roadworks.

I'm not saying the VRS can't do 40mpg+ (average), I just think its very difficult to see under what I would call normal motorway driving.

Edited 17 May, 201115 yr by juan27

Interesting, what kind of real average speed are we talking about for over 40mpg? In the manual I can honestly say the only time in real world driving I would see over 40mpg average on the motorway is through the 50 mph average speed cameras at roadworks.

I'm not saying the VRS can't do 40mpg+ (average), I just think its very difficult to see under what I would call normal motorway driving.

most I have ever got was 42.1 mpg average..and that was on a run from newcastle to aberdeen when the royal wedding was on the telly the other week so very little traffic on the roads..it was heavenly! thats mixed speeds as the A1 is still single carriage way in large parts of it..and a million bloomin speed cameras so I just whack on the cruise and sit back and relax..theres no need to hurry.

on a more normal drive up there the average isnt that much different mind..39-40 I would expect to see.

in normal use, normal driving around town, to work, and evening/weekend fishing trips I see 350-375 miles a tank...which to me is more than acceptable for a large 200bhp car.

in all honesty though I dont do huge miles regularly so only need to fill it up 3 times a month

Edited 17 May, 201115 yr by FTM

Friends,

how many of us can truly afford to fill up the tank these days?

At my local petrol station, I used to smile to myself when some people would only buy £10 or £20 worth of fuel.

Nowadays I'm doing exactly the same thing!! In any case why waste money filling your tank, when say, half a tank will do? I am of course speaking about local driving. Think about all the extra weight you're carrying. While I was motorhoming, I would drive between campsites, with my water tanks empty!!

When I go on a long run, then of course I shall fill my tank.

Frank.