since getting the car remapped im really starting to love this car

mostly these are the responses ive had

b****cks is that a 1.4

***k me that insane

i just cant get my head around that

i thought my car was quick but thats just plain stupid.

etc etc etc

its so funny, people genuinly **** themselves when i nail it now

And the icing on the cake was yesterday. I was working in plymouth and found out my daughter had broke her arm and neded an Op so drove all the way back to kent. Now i never took it steady at all, in any way shape of form and no word of a lie i still averaged 32mpg for the whole journey, as said i was proper giving it some, this was the A303as well so constantly speed up/slow down/speed up etc.

Im eveloping a good list of scalps from guys expecting to just drive away from me.

yesterday Mk2 Leon Cupra and had tokeep lifitng off the throttle

Astra VXR off the lights

BMW 335d just managed to creep past me and i mean just, but his car costs 40k+ and has over 280hp= not a happy BMW driver

none of the above were above the national speed limits though.

In all honesty it doesnt get driven that fast as im normally on the commute or just pootling around. on my normal commute which is relaly busy stop/start traffic it manages 34mpg into work and 37mpg back from work. on the carriage ways at 70mph on cruise im hitting 47mpg, and last night managed 32mpg on a particularly fast journey.

As a point of reference if i had driven my mk2 octavia vRS like that id have been below 20mpg easily, just as that car in any commute with traffic only ever managed around 22mpg and 37mpg on an open carriageway @ 70mph

My car only has 2000miles on the clock, half of which has been mapped, and maybe its the car loosening up but it gets way better mpg now that orignally by a good 3-5mpg in every instance

Edited 13 May, 201115 yr by janner_Sy

since getting the car remapped im really starting to love this car

mostly these are the responses ive had

b****cks is that a 1.4

***k me that insane

i just cant get my head around that

i thought my car was quick but thats just plain stupid.

etc etc etc

its so funny, people genuinly **** themselves when i nail it now

And the icing on the cake was yesterday. I was working in plymouth and found out my daughter had broke her arm and neded an Op so drove all the way back to kent. Now i never took it steady at all, in any way shape of form and no word of a lie i still averaged 32mpg for the whole journey, as said i was proper giving it some, this was the A303as well so constantly speed up/slow down/speed up etc.

Im eveloping a good list of scalps from guys expecting to just drive away from me.

yesterday Mk2 Leon Cupra and had tokeep lifitng off the throttle

Astra VXR off the lights

BMW 335d just managed to creep past me and i mean just, but his car costs 40k+ and has over 280hp= not a happy BMW driver

none of the above were above the national speed limits though.

In all honesty it doesnt get driven that fast as im normally on the commute or just pootling around. on my normal commute which is relaly busy stop/start traffic it manages 34mpg into work and 37mpg back from work. on the carriage ways at 70mph on cruise im hitting 47mpg, and last night managed 32mpg on a particularly fast journey.

As a point of reference if i had driven my mk2 octavia vRS like that id have been below 20mpg easily, just as that car in any commute with traffic only ever managed around 22mpg and 37mpg on an open carriageway @ 70mph

My car only has 2000miles on the clock, half of which has been mapped, and maybe its the car loosening up but it gets way better mpg now that orignally by a good 3-5mpg in every instance

Hi janner_sy ,

great post I am quite interested in the mapping thingy but slightly (no totally) clueless,ive the 1.6 crtdi 105 bhp and ive been wondering about remaps,how would it effect performance and most of all fuel economy, the last being high on the list many have said that mpg will be better? and performance is so why dont the map these cars to there full potential rather than 75% of there potential?,which is the best one to go for and why,cost are they expensive or does it eventually pay for itself in economy and smiles per mile!, warranty issues and are they well cloaked i.e hidden as they may be seen my people who you would not like it to be seen by?, all in all as I said up top clueless

Hi janner_sy ,

great post I am quite interested in the mapping thingy but slightly (no totally) clueless,ive the 1.6 crtdi 105 bhp and ive been wondering about remaps,how would it effect performance and most of all fuel economy, the last being high on the list many have said that mpg will be better? and performance is so why dont the map these cars to there full potential rather than 75% of there potential?,which is the best one to go for and why,cost are they expensive or does it eventually pay for itself in economy and smiles per mile!, warranty issues and are they well cloaked i.e hidden as they may be seen my people who you would not like it to be seen by?, all in all as I said up top clueless

The reason for this i think is because they manufacturer is more interested in the long term life of the car. not running it at its max potential.

obviously remapping will reduce the life of various components, some significantly, some not so significantly. Its down to the driver whether or not they want to replace these parts when they break. obviously im not saying your gearbox will go 1000 miles down the road but it wont last as long as if it was left at 75%.

The reason for this i think is because they manufacturer is more interested in the long term life of the car. not running it at its max potential.

obviously remapping will reduce the life of various components, some significantly, some not so significantly. Its down to the driver whether or not they want to replace these parts when they break. obviously im not saying your gearbox will go 1000 miles down the road but it wont last as long as if it was left at 75%.

Thats that then leave it at 75% and have a longer lasting car

Let the tank run to empty then fill with Shell Vpower...repeat three times.....then keep using Shell Vpower.....then really p8ss everyone off!!!

Let the tank run to empty then fill with Shell Vpower...repeat three times.....then keep using Shell Vpower.....then really p8ss everyone off!!!

vpowered diesel in a 1.4tdi much difference?:wonder:

I WAAANTTTTT!!!!!! :( hahaha

Nie post Sy

Glad to see that the mk2 VRS is as good as it should be

I was seriously impressed with the DSG when i test drove one and it was proper quick given it wasn't even run in (70 miles on the clock)

Fuel efficiency doesn't seem to be too horrendous either.

Hmmm wonder waht part-ex i can get for my mk1

Seboni don't baulk too much at the "remap will blow up your car" talk.

yes cars come out of the factory at less than the absolute max potential because a modern car has to last well over 100k with no fajor failure. Weren't vauxhal offering a 100k warranty - they clearly didn't expect anything expensive to go wrong before then!

However the extra performance is there to be tapped into if you want.

I've done 40,000 remapped miles in my mk1 VRS running 177bhp (up from the standard 130) and not had a single problem.

Go to the right tuner (any of the site sponsors here would do the trick) and explain what you want - extra performance and economy at a SAFE long lasting level - and they won't disappoint.

For example Jabba rolled back the torque on my remap to a level that wouldn't trouble the standard clutch.

Let the tank run to empty then fill with Shell Vpower...repeat three times.....then keep using Shell Vpower.....then really p8ss everyone off!!!

I hardly think changing to v power will turn it into a rocket ship :wonder:

IMO in the longrun I can't see the 1.4 coping with 200+bhp, it must be working hard !

I hardly think changing to v power will turn it into a rocket ship :wonder:

IMO in the longrun I can't see the 1.4 coping with 200+bhp, it must be working hard !

Cubic Capacity is irrelevant, F1 ran 1500cc engines in the 80's, granted not that reliable but over 1000bhp none the less, so I'm sure 25 years later a 1.4 running 200+bhp isn't an issue.

An awful lot of 1.8t's out there running over 300bhp just fine

I hardly think changing to v power will turn it into a rocket ship :wonder:

Maybe not...but it is a higher octane fuel, which will combust quicker, making the engine more responsive, and on this type of engine it will help the turbocharger to spin up a bit quicker as the engine is combusting a bit quicker.....just that little bit extra to get in front!! I run Vpower and, ok, i've got a Remus backbox and a full on high flow sealed cold air intake and filter, and iridium tipped NGK spark plugs....and it is alot faster than it left the factory....even the dealership mechanics can't get their heads around it!!

Edited 13 May, 201115 yr by fabdavrav

Use of V-Power has also been scientifically proven to keep the internals of the fuel system; valves, injectors, combustion ports etc cleaner and therefore the engine will run more efficiently and produce (at least!) the specified power & torque.

Use of V-Power has also been scientifically proven to keep the internals of the fuel system; valves, injectors, combustion ports etc cleaner and therefore the engine will run more efficiently and produce (at least!) the specified power & torque.

+1

Wow awesome! How fast were you driving and still managed 32mpg

IMO in the longrun I can't see the 1.4 coping with 200+bhp, it must be working hard !

why not? Bhp doesnt kill engines, torque spikes and heat do. VAG have a huge factor of safety built into the cars. you ask any of the tuners on here, when they design the map they look into the engine internals, their design, strength, then turbos and their limits etc, and they then ensure their map does not push into the danger areas in that. If GOOD remaps killed engines there would be no tuning market or a very little one at that. The fact of the matter is there are hundreds of guys who have been running very high outputs in their VAGS(compared to stock) for well over 100k with no extra issues. however you will always have issues somewhere, but you also get them with stock cars. I have all my cars ,mapped and am yet to suffer a failure due to a remap, and thats easily based on probably well over 100k of motoring.

@ seboni IF you go for a reputable company the likelihood of an issue arising from the map are no more than that if it was left stock.

However if you buy a remap as many do on the cost basis rather than the quality basis then you might be unlucky as you'll end up with some EBAY map on your car.

buy nice or pay twice.

I will add that ive asked shark performance for a map change which produces the same power but with the torque held back a further 20-30lbft just for clutch longevity, until an uprated variant is available on the market

Good reading janner

Sounds like an impressive machine now, even though its pretty awesome standard! All depends what you are used to really!

why not? Bhp doesnt kill engines, torque spikes and heat do. VAG have a huge factor of safety built into the cars. you ask any of the tuners on here, when they design the map they look into the engine internals, their design, strength, then turbos and their limits etc, and they then ensure their map does not push into the danger areas in that. If GOOD remaps killed engines there would be no tuning market or a very little one at that. The fact of the matter is there are hundreds of guys who have been running very high outputs in their VAGS(compared to stock) for well over 100k with no extra issues. however you will always have issues somewhere, but you also get them with stock cars. I have all my cars ,mapped and am yet to suffer a failure due to a remap, and thats easily based on probably well over 100k of motoring.

@ seboni IF you go for a reputable company the likelihood of an issue arising from the map are no more than that if it was left stock.

However if you buy a remap as many do on the cost basis rather than the quality basis then you might be unlucky as you'll end up with some EBAY map on your car.

buy nice or pay twice.

I will add that ive asked shark performance for a map change which produces the same power but with the torque held back a further 20-30lbft just for clutch longevity, until an uprated variant is available on the market

Yeah you buy cheap you pay twice. I'm glad you're really liking the car now. I won't be mapping until after my warranty mainly because of the warranty plus when I do in 3 years time it will be like having a new car again. I'll be keeping an eye on what you do to it. I'm guessing in 3 years time tuners will have developed more for it and there will be some really quick vRS's out there much like the Mk1. Hopefully I'll go to Shark in a few years time and just ask for your map and mods.

Maybe not...but it is a higher octane fuel, which will combust quicker

Higher octane fuels combust slower, so they don't pre-detonate.

I found the vRS mentally quick even as standard, god knows what it feels like remapped

since getting the car remapped im really starting to love this car

mostly these are the responses ive had

b****cks is that a 1.4

***k me that insane

i just cant get my head around that

i thought my car was quick but thats just plain stupid.

etc etc etc

its so funny, people genuinly **** themselves when i nail it now

And the icing on the cake was yesterday. I was working in plymouth and found out my daughter had broke her arm and neded an Op so drove all the way back to kent. Now i never took it steady at all, in any way shape of form and no word of a lie i still averaged 32mpg for the whole journey, as said i was proper giving it some, this was the A303as well so constantly speed up/slow down/speed up etc.

Im eveloping a good list of scalps from guys expecting to just drive away from me.

yesterday Mk2 Leon Cupra and had tokeep lifitng off the throttle

Astra VXR off the lights

BMW 335d just managed to creep past me and i mean just, but his car costs 40k+ and has over 280hp= not a happy BMW driver

none of the above were above the national speed limits though.

So can a BMWW 335d only do 71 mph?

In all honesty it doesnt get driven that fast as im normally on the commute or just pootling around. on my normal commute which is relaly busy stop/start traffic it manages 34mpg into work and 37mpg back from work. on the carriage ways at 70mph on cruise im hitting 47mpg, and last night managed 32mpg on a particularly fast journey.

As a point of reference if i had driven my mk2 octavia vRS like that id have been below 20mpg easily, just as that car in any commute with traffic only ever managed around 22mpg and 37mpg on an open carriageway @ 70mph

My car only has 2000miles on the clock, half of which has been mapped, and maybe its the car loosening up but it gets way better mpg now that orignally by a good 3-5mpg in every instance

Some great quotes there!!

i know couldnt believe he sped past me like that

I think even without a remap i'm going to get those faces/expressions. Would seriously contemplate getting a Shark remap too if he wasn't a good few hundred miles away! =/

Higher octane fuels combust slower, so they don't pre-detonate.

Sorry brain fart...i know....High octane fuels allow for a more complete burn without pinking...and my NGK iridium tipped spark plugs help even more. High compression engines can feel the benefit better. Mainly tho' it's the cleaning additives that are the biggest factor...and Vpower seems to have the best!!!

I run Vpower and, ok, i've got a Remus backbox and a full on high flow sealed cold air intake and filter, and iridium tipped NGK spark plugs....

Be interesting to get that "beast" on the rollers and see if it is still making anywhere near its original 100bhp....

Be interesting to get that "beast" on the rollers and see if it is still making anywhere near its original 100bhp....

Errrrr......one day I might....but no good ones up here. Mind you car was in dealership for new front wheel bearings about 2yrs ago and instead of me having to go back in and pick it up the salesman (in his 40's) who lived near me drove it back from Inverness (16miles)......

When he got out of the car he looked a bit shaken...I asked him what's the matter.....his reply was "errr, it's a bit quick isn't it?..what did you say you've done to it???...it stops bloody quick as well!!!" The really funny thing was that he had his two sons (aged around 10, in the back as he had picked them up as well) and they were grinning like stupid and a bit quiet!! The bloke's not one to "raz" a car so I doubt he'd have got into the upper reaches of it like I occasinally do....do you think I ought to invite him for a drive???

P.s. it also runs Mobil 1 engine oil, and Millers Oils race spec gearbox oil!!!

lol, my car makes 100hp at about 2400rpm.