30 hp = either 1/2 second or more than one full second off the 0-60 time depending on the source!!

Sorry I dont buy I drove one this week and was distinctly underwhelmed , didnt feel quick to me at all nippy yes but certainly not 6 second 0-60's its too much of a porker at 1300kgs it weighs around the same as my Evo 6 !!

That power to weight would put it in the mid 15/s in the 1/4 mile at around 90 mph even 210hp would be high 14's at less than 100mph yet claims of 100mph in 14 seconds are made

Sorry dont buy it plenty of online calculators will back me up I'd rather believe them than wild internet claims , sorry

Try this one for example

http://www.letstorqu.../calculator.asp

IMHO, how quick a car is depends on how well the power is across the rev range

30 hp = either 1/2 second or more than one full second off the 0-60 time depending on the source!!

Sorry I dont buy I drove one this week and was distinctly underwhelmed , didnt feel quick to me at all nippy yes but certainly not 6 second 0-60's its too much of a porker at 1300kgs it weighs around the same as my Evo 6 !!

That power to weight would put it in the mid 15/s in the 1/4 mile at around 90 mph even 210hp would be high 14's at less than 100mph yet claims of 100mph in 14 seconds are made

Sorry dont buy it plenty of online calculators will back me up I'd rather believe them than wild internet claims , sorry

Try this one for example

http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp

If we are going after that "configurator", it's saying that my Fabia vRS is doing 0-60 in 6.98 seconds. The figures in my case is 200 bhp.

I call that bogus, cause a configurator in that way cant take in all the different facts that might come in.

For instance, here is a video off me driving my Fabia 0-160 kph approx (on a closed airstrip ofc) without the software being driven in (hope you understand what I mean).

As you see, I get a bad start since my TCS is on and still I manage it in under 7 seconds despite what this configurator says.

Some time in the future (talking about 2-3 weeks) I'll have a G-tech to measure the speed off my car...

Then I'll know for sure how quick it is and will be able to say if the "configurator" is right.

IMHO, how quick a car is depends on how well the power is across the rev range

Exactly, you can have 200 bhp between 5000 - 6500 rpm for all I know.

30 hp = either 1/2 second or more than one full second off the 0-60 time depending on the source!!

Sorry I dont buy I drove one this week and was distinctly underwhelmed , didnt feel quick to me at all nippy yes but certainly not 6 second 0-60's its too much of a porker at 1300kgs it weighs around the same as my Evo 6 !!

That power to weight would put it in the mid 15/s in the 1/4 mile at around 90 mph even 210hp would be high 14's at less than 100mph yet claims of 100mph in 14 seconds are made

Sorry dont buy it plenty of online calculators will back me up I'd rather believe them than wild internet claims , sorry

Try this one for example

http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp

you have to factor in the gearbox. a standard vRS (180bhp) (er come to think of it, it was a polo gti) beat a set of 200-200+bhp hatches in a recent evo test, both to 60 , 100, and the 1/4 mile.. (mini works, VXR, clio 200 and something else i think.. cant remember) its a 7 speed box, and the early ratios are very close together.. i.e potentially 4 gears to 60, are you factoring in the physics of how shorter ratios, with minimal change times increases the useable power at the wheels? going on your theories ALL the above cars, would have beaten the polo GTI, but they all lost..

if the cupras are going down the strip with timing gear on and producing figures, why wouldn't you beleive it?

my previous punto had circa 170bhp, but the vRS is miles faster, both weight about the same, and the punto had more torque.. at meets with gillys 180bhp octy, the punto could only ever "just" keep up, at the last WSM meet out of a slow corner, I went past him like he was stood still, I didn't even intend to, I though he had broken something! turns out he was nailing it...

an extra 10 bhp doesn't produce thouse startlingly different results, the gearbox makes a huge difference.

30 hp = either 1/2 second or more than one full second off the 0-60 time depending on the source!!

Sorry I dont buy I drove one this week and was distinctly underwhelmed , didnt feel quick to me at all nippy yes but certainly not 6 second 0-60's its too much of a porker at 1300kgs it weighs around the same as my Evo 6 !!

That power to weight would put it in the mid 15/s in the 1/4 mile at around 90 mph even 210hp would be high 14's at less than 100mph yet claims of 100mph in 14 seconds are made

Sorry dont buy it plenty of online calculators will back me up I'd rather believe them than wild internet claims , sorry

Try this one for example

http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp

wrong again, calcullate all you want with your online gizmo but its plain wrong.

this is the leaderboard for the 1/4 mile runs with timing @ santa pod and crail with timing slips to prove it

1.4TSI 1/4 Mile Leadeboard

1- 13.41 @ 103.26 mph -Ibizaracebrake -ibiza Cupra -TD1.2s, stripped interior, cat back exhaust, intercooler spray - Stage 1 REVO - R888 - Santa Pod

2-13.6@100mph - yeahgood1 -Ibiza Cupra -ITG intake, milltek tbe -stage 2 revo -road tyre -santa pod

3-13.66@104mph -Tilley1 -Ibiza Cupra - tandard -Stage 1 REVO -Road tyre -Santa pod

4-13.7 @97mph -phil_monk31 -Ibiza Cupra -standard -Stage 2 REVO -Road tyre -Santa pod

5-13.7@ 102mph -lucifer666 -Ibiza Cupra -Standard -Revo Stage 1 -Road tyre -Santa pod

6-13.9@ ???mph -Mardon -Ibiza Cupra -standard -REVO stage 1 -Road tyre -Santa pod

7-14.01@101mph -shuggy boy -Ibiza Cupra - standard -revo stage 1 -road tyre -crail raceway

8-14.5s @97mph - BOC Chris -Ibiza Cupra -Forge BOV -Stock -Road tyre -Crail Raceway

9-14.557@96mph - Rosser87 -Ibiza Cupra -REVO filter -Stock -Road tyre -Crail raceway

10-14.6 @ 94mph -Streetbeef -Ibiza cupra -powerflow cat back-stock -road tyre -santa pod

11-14.66 @ ???mph - sly200sx -Ibiza Cupra -Stock -Stock -Road tyre -Crail raceway

12-

13-

14-

15

Overall Leader

13.41 @ 103.26 mph -Ibizaracebrake -ibiza Cupra -TD1.2s, stripped interior, cat back exhaust, intercooler spray - Stage 1 REVO - R888 - Santa Pod

Fastest Ibiza Fr/Cupra

13.41 @ 103.26 mph -Ibizaracebrake -ibiza Cupra -TD1.2s, stripped interior, cat back exhaust, intercooler spray - Stage 1 REVO - R888 - Santa Pod

Fastest Fabia vRS

Fastest Polo GTI

Fastest Scirocco

fastest Golf TSI

Fastest Stock Car

14.5s @97mph - BOC Chris -Ibiza Cupra - Forge BOV - Stock - Road tyre - Crail Raceway

Ive watched the guys beating MK2 focus RS's, tuned VXRs and Golfs etc up the strip. Also as for 30hp gain, thats peak gains. I gained nearly 60Hp in the midrange along with the same torque, nnd i now make 180hp at 3500rpm which is 2000rpm earlier than stock.

What about these vids of the 1.4TSi with stage 1 at the strip all of which surpass your 'calculated' 1/4 mile times

this is standard

These are mapped

there are loads more of others on SCN as they all video themselves doing it, also reference the above there are timing slips to prove all of his times

janner_Sy: that mid range is impressive on the graph... cant imagine what its like on the road!

* sssoooooo tempted.....

janner_Sy: that mid range is impressive on the graph... cant imagine what its like on the road!

* sssoooooo tempted.....

Id imagine the torque will have moved to the right abit now and power slightly up as i have fitted the intake this afternoon.

ill tell you its also substantially stronger in the midrange than JCBocs Stage 2 REVO Ibiza Cupra as we had a play against each other last night when i bought my new intake off him. other than that they were pretty similar in perfomance when flat out. strange considering these REVO guys are apparently 230hp with thier full exhausts and im only at 210hp lol. And his BOC is good for mid 13 1/4s judging his times last year at GTI international.

Edited 17 June, 201115 yr by janner_Sy

Ok so look at it this way

This is an Octavia vRS with an EVOMS intake which on this car gave 8hp gains before and after as i was there the day it ran @ JKM RR day. Octavia vRS weighs 1450kg and hits 0-60 in 7.1 seconds. =142Hp/ton

My car is over 200kg lighter, 40hp/50lbft more powerful in the midrange and more powerful top end, along with DSG, and you think that a sub 6 second is unachievable? oh and mines about 178hp/ton+

even crazier if you were to base power to weight ratios off what both cars are managing at 3500rpm.

Octy vRS 140hp@3500rpm therefore 96Hp/ton

My Fabia 180hp@3500rpm therefore 152hp/ton

Ivenot personnaly timed my fabia yet, but i assure you now that its massively quicker than my 280Hp stage 2+ Octavia vRS 2.0TFSI off the line and id bet the octavia wouldnt claw back the gap until way over 100mph

Edited 17 June, 201115 yr by janner_Sy

you have to factor in the gearbox. a standard vRS (180bhp) (er come to think of it, it was a polo gti) beat a set of 200-200+bhp hatches in a recent evo test, both to 60 , 100, and the 1/4 mile.. (mini works, VXR, clio 200 and something else i think.. cant remember) its a 7 speed box, and the early ratios are very close together.. i.e potentially 4 gears to 60, are you factoring in the physics of how shorter ratios, with minimal change times increases the useable power at the wheels? going on your theories ALL the above cars, would have beaten the polo GTI, but they all lost..

if the cupras are going down the strip with timing gear on and producing figures, why wouldn't you beleive it?

my previous punto had circa 170bhp, but the vRS is miles faster, both weight about the same, and the punto had more torque.. at meets with gillys 180bhp octy, the punto could only ever "just" keep up, at the last WSM meet out of a slow corner, I went past him like he was stood still, I didn't even intend to, I though he had broken something! turns out he was nailing it...

an extra 10 bhp doesn't produce thouse startlingly different results, the gearbox makes a huge difference.

The "other" car was a Citroen DS3 Racing..(I have the issue) Don't know how the Polo compares weight wise with the Fabia but it was lighter according to Evo by 20-40kg over the ones compared apart from the Corsa.The Polo was also quicker braking than all of them by a fair old margin from 100mph.In their conclusion the Polo still came next to last in their favourites list.Not quite hardcore enough I guess..Not bad for if you think the Fabia is so similar to the Polo,something which (if you got one VAT free) is several thousands of pounds cheaper..The mini JCW was £28k as tested (22k normally) ! The Citroen list £23k..

Whats the 1/8 mile time on a 14 second Cupra then??

See lots of evidence for other cars not seen a sub 6 second Fabia timesheet still

Whats the 1/8 mile time on a 14 second Cupra then??

See lots of evidence for other cars not seen a sub 6 second Fabia timesheet still

not sure tbh, ask on SCN. The fabia is the same as the Ibiza. same engine, same gearbox etc.

I've seen a few of these cars (Polo GTI/Fabia VRS/Seat) and they all perform in a very similar fashion

A remapped VRS at 215bhp has the same power to weight ratio as a Golf R and more than a MKVI Golf GTI. I have no doubt that the combination of DSG, light weight and decent power would get a mapped Fabia VRS to 60 in 6 seconds. With some stage 2 power, grippier tyres lighter kerb weight and suspension mods I can easily see the Fabia VRS getting low/sub 5 second 0-60mph runs.

1.4tsi golf mk6 with the 7 speed DSG gave a 5.9 second 0-100kph time a while back.

This was only remapped, no exhaust, no intake, nothing removed from the interior, it did however have lightweight wheels and super sticky advan tyres.....

Its a well known fact that 0-100 the 1.4tsi is the king (in taiwan anyway), it even beats K04 2.0tsi's and only loses out to the 4wd Audi S3 and new golf R.

bang-per-buck nothing comes close, i just wish Skoda made a Yeti with that engine!.

You may be quoting these quick 0-60 times, but you are not factoring in the time taken to go and buy another litre of oil every time you do so :-) haha

You may be quoting these quick 0-60 times, but you are not factoring in the time taken to go and buy another litre of oil every time you do so :-) haha

Oh dear are you having oil consumption issues as well?.

We had a drama over here a few years ago when the 1.4 first came out in the MK5 golf, with Taiwan being stupidly hot and also having the worst driving conditions this side of hell, those little engines drank alot of oil....... which the dealers CHARGED for!!!!!!!.

Yep they put it in the fine print that oil consumption over a teaspoon (they worded it better than that) is the drivers responsibility regardless if the car is still in warranty.

Anyway after about 10,000kms it stopped happening in most cars, it seems to be an odd 'bedding in' characteristic.

My Yeti did the same, the oil drinking stopped at about 10k.

I don't own one personally, just read a lot of stories. Keeping an eye though as I wouldn't mind either a Polo Gti or the Fabia vRS Mk2 to replace my Mk1 vRS eventually.

Was just teasing anyway, bloody impressive figures people are getting with the 1.4tsi, I'm not sold on the longevity of the engine though.

I had a 1.9 TDI PD engine in the past, and that thing drank oil until 40K!

did it the old fashioned one, with another person using a stopwatch on my phone, not particularly accurate but came out at 6.93s

On the subject of oil, my oil light came on for the second time yesterday in the space of 5000 miles (I got the car on just over 5000, it's now been topped up twice and it is on just over 10,000 - getting a full oil change next Monday though in it's service).

On subject, I don't have any 0-60 times for you.