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I have owned both Diesel and Petrol DSG's.

They take some getting used to - you simply can't drive it like you a manual.

That, is NOT to say that you can't drive a DSG quickly - having done 40K with DSG then I think I have fair grounds to say I have experience.

My motto is: -

DSG

Driving Smoothly? Great!

It's all about driving smooth, you can be quick, just have to think a little bit more. Doesn't take long before it's second nature however.

I'd never have a manual (if I can help it) again.

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Bet DSG is going to be fun in the snow!

DSG is fine in the snow.

Yeah, just make sure your tires aren't close to the legal limit.

Then, it is bloody impossible. (I sadly speak from experience)

I have owned both Diesel and Petrol DSG's.

They take some getting used to - you simply can't drive it like you a manual.

That, is NOT to say that you can't drive a DSG quickly - having done 40K with DSG then I think I have fair grounds to say I have experience.

My motto is: -

DSG

Driving Smoothly? Great!

It's all about driving smooth, you can be quick, just have to think a little bit more. Doesn't take long before it's second nature however.

I'd never have a manual (if I can help it) again.

Same here. I've done about 40k in mine, and how smooth the box is depends on how smooth you are. If you nail the throttle out of a roundabout, it will drop gears, jerk a bit, then take off. If you ease back on the power, it's fine.

There is one thing I asked for several months ago.. a video that show smooth driving with the fabia 1.2 tsi dsg.

Not a video that show a scud-missile like this one..

(a lot of those videos out)..

Perhaps any members here can take a small video of the car and post it to youtube? Where u show smooth driving (ask a friend to record if u cannot record and drive the rocket at the same time) :)

Guess there is more members here now that have the dsg then it was for several months ago...

Hope I get my scud in a month or two...

Yes I can do that, when I get a chance I shall

If someone could do a guide or video on tips and tricks with DSG that would be really useful.

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Since having the software reloaded on Friday the automatic gear change is less jerky. I did have one scary moment today when I wanted to enter a roundabout and the car did not respond for a couple of seconds so I braked and the car behind nearly did not!

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If someone could do a guide or video on tips and tricks with DSG that would be really useful.

I'll see what I can do :)

Since having the software reloaded on Friday the automatic gear change is less jerky. I did have one scary moment today when I wanted to enter a roundabout and the car did not respond for a couple of seconds so I braked and the car behind nearly did not!

Yes mine's the same. When slowing for a junction/roundabout and nearly stopping or stopping very briefly then going on the throttle there is a noticable delay. It has got better after 4K miles but its still there. I recommend a change of underwear kept in the glovebox. LoL

I now always drop into sport mode when approaching junctions/roundabouts which has two benefits. The DSG changes down at higher revs giving better engine braking and the clutches have a faster take up when you want to pull out. Give it half throttle for a second then back off progressively for smooth but quick take off. Its a technique or knack for sure that's not needed for a normal torque converter auto which I've had plenty.

I sometimes brake with left foot so you can get on the throttle quicker with the right foot when pulling away to minimise the lag. It's worth the effort as its a good box generally with no penalty on fuel consumption as with a normal auto.

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Give it half throttle for a second then back off progressively for smooth but quick take off. Its a technique or knack for sure that's not needed for a normal torque converter auto which I've had plenty.

After nearly 40 years of torque converters this takes a lot of getting used to. I will try your tip of going in to Sports mode.

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Well I am back to square one, since the software update last week the jerkiness has returned :-(

Like some suggest it seems to have a learning period but for me after learning my steady driving style it becomes jerky at lower speeds.

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I took my Fabia back to the dealer this morning and was told they needed to hook it up to the computer to check the gearbox stat modules. I received a call this afternoon 7 hours after I took it in to tell me they were unable to connect to Milton Keynes and they would need the car for two full days but could not provide a replacement vehicle. I decided not to leave the car with them.

The car is only three weeks old and I cannot understand why it takes two full days to run diagnostic checks.

I'm going to make a radical suggestion so please don't take this the wrong way

It sounds like the problem is not the DSG but your driving style.

Given after the run in period I took mine on a couple of runs and after those it was alot better. To realy get the best out of the DSG you have to learn to drive to the tech and just trust it.

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I'm going to make a radical suggestion so please don't take this the wrong way

It sounds like the problem is not the DSG but your driving style.

Given after the run in period I took mine on a couple of runs and after those it was alot better. To realy get the best out of the DSG you have to learn to drive to the tech and just trust it.

I happily take your point regarding my driving style, I am a steady careful driver with 40 years of Automatic gearbox experience and my Fabia does not appear to respond to my style of driving. I drove a Suzuki Swift Auto today and how refreshing it was to have a vehical respond so smoothly to gear changes.

Clearly I have made the wrong choice for my own personal needs.

This evening I drove a VW DSG automatic and that moved smoothly through the gear changes.

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I thought I would update my issue.

My 1.2 DSG TSI has now done 400 miles and had spent three full days in the Garage. Today they apparently tried and failed to reload the software and there seems to be some differing views between the Garage engineers and Skoda Technical. One suggestion that was put to me is they may replace the Mechatronic unit. I am not sure what that means perhaps somebody could explain why and how big a procedure this is.

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gorebrush and sharkrider..

Have u done the video soon? :wonder:

gorebrush and sharkrider..

Have u done the video soon? :wonder:

forgot about that! ill try and sort one soon :)

The 1.2 TSI DSG seems to generate the most complaints. Wonder if it's maybe a combination of slight DSG and turbo lag. Anyone driven 1.2 TSI manual and DSG back to back ?. Don't think the turbo is variable geometry might suffer from tubo lag at low revs.

forgot about that! ill try and sort one soon :)

Good :)

Hope soon is "soon" :)

Is it necessary to use the button on the side when changing from neutral to drive or between any gears at all?

Noticed mine flicked into drive the other day but didn't want to do any damage.

Is it necessary to use the button on the side when changing from neutral to drive or between any gears at all?
Mine does not need a button push to go between N and D or back the other way. Button push is required for

D to S

N to R

R to P (P to R)

Might be some other combinations I can't remember.

Wonder if it's maybe a combination of slight DSG and turbo lag.
I would agree with this, have noticed when gear changes drop revs below turbo range power seems to die. Not a problem if you are aware of where the revs are, and can be overridden by pushing the accelerator harder, or moving over to manual selection or sport mode. As with most automated systems the DSG box does not replace the driver. You can see when there is a hill or junction coming up a DSG system cannot. If you read the road and use the controls you have correctly then you have as much or as little control of the car as you need.

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Is it necessary to use the button on the side when changing from neutral to drive or between any gears at all?

I think you can move between D and N and back without the button if you are moving but not if you are stopped. Then need footbrake on and the button

PS: did notice you can switch off the ignition with it in D AND you can get out of the car with the handbrake on a bit and the car will drive away from you :doh: I seem to remember American automatics would not let you get out without it being in P

retiredbri

I thought I would update my issue.

My 1.2 DSG TSI has now done 400 miles and had spent three full days in the Garage. Today they apparently tried and failed to reload the software and there seems to be some differing views between the Garage engineers and Skoda Technical. One suggestion that was put to me is they may replace the Mechatronic unit. I am not sure what that means perhaps somebody could explain why and how big a procedure this is.

The Mechatronic unit is the bottom right thing on this picture and as far as I know is a complex electronic and hydraulic item

http://cars.about.com/od/thingsyouneedtoknow/a/zxfag_howDSGworks_img.htm?liv=1#i0

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I think you can move between D and N and back without the button if you are moving but not if you are stopped. Then need footbrake on and the button

On my vRS test drive, once stopped, I could go from D to N and back to D without using the button, but you have to have your foot on the brake first.

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