I'm keen on the 170 diesel, as it seems to give the best grunt and is still pretty good at mpg, but wondered what other people think. I definately need a 4x4 drive!

Only driven a 170 Superb DSG so cannot comment there but I have owned both a Yeti 110 and 140 in quattro format and daft as it sounds I prefer the 110

Regards,

TP

I test drove the 170 4x4 and was pretty surprised by how quick it was. I have ordered the 140 which, I think, offers the best compromise of torque and economy.

I test drove the 170 4x4 and was pretty surprised by how quick it was. I have ordered the 140 which, I think, offers the best compromise of torque and economy.

when remapped, yes, otherwise the 170 offers better economy & performance. or go for the CR110 4x4 like TP for economy, but I still think the CR170 is more economical.

If you want/need an 4x4 auto, then there is only ONE choice ....a remapped CR140 in either SE, SE PLus or elegance spec.

Forgot to mention that other gem, the 1.8tsi......I test drove one and it was amazing, FocusZetec's must be out of this world.....If it had been available in DSG I might have considered it.

I'm keen on the 170 diesel, as it seems to give the best grunt and is still pretty good at mpg, but wondered what other people think. I definately need a 4x4 drive!

I find mine (170) very fast indeed when required (rarely for me) - over 2000 miles and signs of major loosening up. I like the thought of the bigger brakes. It potters slowly very well - 6th gear at 1500 revs when pottering. Getting about 44mpg now overall. I didn't bring any cash comparisons into any equation when considering but just bought what I thought would be the best - and for a 4x4 perhaps even the most economical.

I have the 170 and have seen the Maxidot reading 68mpg when driving like grannie, but its quick when you want it to be. Its the usual economy/performance/cost compromise. Whichever one you choose won't disapoint.

170 has longest waiting times....but is well worth it!

Andy

when remapped, yes, otherwise the 170 offers better economy & performance. or go for the CR110 4x4 like TP for economy, but I still think the CR170 is more economical.

Think your right there, the 110 4x4 is no more economical than it's more powerful siblings, if anything it's probably the thirstiest as you have to apply more gas to get her going when needs be. However I still prefer my 110, appears smoother and a tad quieter than the 140 before.

Point to note; the current 140 and 110 engines are physically the same unit, so your paying £800 more for a 'remap', 8mm more diameter on the front brakes, different coded gearbox with slight ratio differences in some gears and a Red I on the boot .

Regards,

TP

Do bear in mind that the 140 is the ONLY engine that comes with the DSG gearbox...

Remember that when making your final choice, I have the 140 and Kitten and I LOVE IT TO BITS

Point to note; the current 140 and 110 engines are physically the same unit, so your paying £800 more for a 'remap', 8mm more diameter on the front brakes, different coded gearbox with slight ratio differences in some gears and a Red I on the boot .

You are the guy to ask. If 110 and 140 are the same engine - what are the differences of the 170 version.

You are the guy to ask. If 110 and 140 are the same engine - what are the differences of the 170 version.

Bigger turbo, larger brakes, different muffler and tailpipes (Stainless) probably larger exhaust pipe diameter and maybe more cooling - both intercooler and engine coler, larger DPF. There may be other beefing up details, not immediately evident. TP probably has more detailed info.

But most important: More power and better economy!

Edited 6 August, 201114 yr by Agerbundsen

Bigger turbo, larger brakes, different muffler and tailpipes (Stainless) probably larger exhaust pipe diameter and maybe more cooling - both intercooler and engine coler, larger DPF. There may be other beefing up details, not immediately evident. TP probably has more detailed info.

But most important: More power and better economy!

But no DSG gearbox

You can beat the 6 month+ waiting list for a 170 by keeping an eye on the Skoda used car locator, there are a few 170s on there just now, you may be lucky and get a demo unit that is stacked with options. Love the Yeti 170, one thing I should mention is that the thing grips the road very very well, I'd imagine due to the 4x4 delivery of power, going round roundabouts feels more stable/less twitchy than they same engine in the VRS!

Please Skoda Please release the CR170 engine in the Scout! PLEASE! :'(

BTW just to add to some of the views here, the CR170 engine in the Yeti does everything well, you are giving up some MPG for the oompth when required. But when required this car can shift, personally don't know what is near it for a compact 4x4 performance car. That is my view from a 1.8T VRS Estate & CR170 Estate VRS. Wonderful engine in my experience. Add 4x4 in a compact form and it makes even more sense. I have test driven the 4x4 Superb CR170 and I'd have that car in a shot too, special engines IMHO.

You are the guy to ask. If 110 and 140 are the same engine - what are the differences of the 170 version.

Bigger turbo, larger brakes, different muffler and tailpipes (Stainless) probably larger exhaust pipe diameter and maybe more cooling - both intercooler and engine coler, larger DPF. There may be other beefing up details, not immediately evident. TP probably has more detailed info.

But most important: More power and better economy!

Most of what Angerbundsen has stated is there or there about.

There's surprisingly little difference; core 2.0 TDI motor remains the same, the main part being a change in Turbo part number and ECU sofware. Exhaust back box number is also differant but probably more to do with the tail pipe chrome sections and the DPF is spacific to the 170. 312mm front brakes instead of 288mm on the 140 and 280mm on the 110; rears stay the same for all three engine sizes. However there's little evidence that other systems have been uprated, cooling system appears fairly common across the 2.0 board. Other than that gearbox code and ratios and not forgetting the DI on the boot lid.

You can access a parts catalogue on the net, in Russian but a translate tool will get you in the right direction;

My link

Regards,

TP

I know it's now different engine technology, but for what it's worth my 4x4 170 Yeti is already (hardly run in) more economical on all kinds of runs (long, short, country lanes, urban, motorway) than my 140 Scout was, even with many more miles on the clock.

I'm keen on the 170 diesel, as it seems to give the best grunt and is still pretty good at mpg, but wondered what other people think. I definitely need a 4x4 drive!

I would always choose a diesel now. I love the torquey characteristics of the engine. The way you can pull off on tickover (saving the clutch). The way all the grunt is just where you need it in the rev range. Of course, the economy goes without saying.

I had a test drive in the 170 and it blew me away. I had intended to go for the 140, thinking "that's more than enough power for me". You can still drive sedately in the 170 but it'll be nice to have that extra bit of oomph when needed.

I would always choose a diesel now. I love the torquey characteristics of the engine. The way you can pull off on tickover (saving the clutch). The way all the grunt is just where you need it in the rev range. Of course, the economy goes without saying.

I had a test drive in the 170 and it blew me away. I had intended to go for the 140, thinking "that's more than enough power for me". You can still drive sedately in the 170 but it'll be nice to have that extra bit of oomph when needed.

I'm keen on the 170 diesel, as it seems to give the best grunt and is still pretty good at mpg, but wondered what other people think. I definately need a 4x4 drive!

Give us a clue.

What are your priorities in a car? Performance or economy? Budget (or not important)? Why do you need a 4X4?

PS> Welcome to Briskoda

I got a 170 diesel (over a 1.8TSi) and still not sure I made the right decision. The CR170 is OK for performance but nothing too impressive and it's rather agricultural when accelerating hard in 2nd or 3rd, which is less than pleasant. On the plus side you can rev it to 5000 safely (or at least comfortably - to the ears - to 4500) which is perhaps half-way to petrol characteristics, but I remain unconvinced that I wouldn't have preferred to stick with the more rev-able petrol.

I'm rather dubious about the economics of the diesel unless you do regular longer journeys - say legs of at least 30-40 miles. The diesels do seem to take substantially longer to warm up, perhaps at least 15 miles in winter and during that time Maxidot can show some surprisingly poor mpg figures. So if your journey pattern is frequently 10-15 miles or shorter then I suspect that the mpg differential between petrol and diesel might be smaller than the nominal figures might suggest. (Certainly, if the authorities want us to take note of the published figures they ought to ensure that the figures are based on a typical journey length - which I suspect might be no more than 10 miles - and starting from cold, but that's a separate debate I know.)

And that's all before the overall issue of whether the extra diesel cost can be justified on economic grounds

Ultimately, the one small thing that persuaded me in favour of the diesel was that Skoda were unable to get the 1.8TSi emissions below 185 which was a psychological red-line for me for a new vehicle. But VW manage to get several other powerful petrols below this figure nowadays so it's a shame that they couldn't try a bit harder with the Yeti 1.8TSi.

Like some others here I suspect, what I'm really looking for in a Yeti 2 is a 2.0TSi GTi-type petrol with DSG. Otherwise I might be heading for Tiguan territory next time around, a good all-rounder though the present Yeti is.

Edit: I should maybe have included the mpg figures that I see for my CR170 Yeti @ around 8000 miles (all Maxidot - haven't got the patience for brim-to-brim).

Overall average is currently 40.8mpg based on mixture of (i) 5-mile commutes and other local journeys; (ii) 15-30-mile A/B route journeys where it's usually difficult to average more than 50mph; and (iii) occasional much longer journeys involving the adventure of travelling to the nearest piece of dual carriageway, which allows indicated speeds of 75-80mph. Total mileage is probably 50:25:25 of those 3 categories. Driving style is steady but not sedate, with occasional bursts of exuberance and relatively frequent need for overtaking due to busy local roads with a lot of slower agricultural traffic.

Edited 7 August, 201114 yr by prodata

I got a 170 diesel (over a 1.8TSi) and still not sure I made the right decision. The CR170 is OK for performance but nothing too impressive and it's rather agricultural when accelerating hard in 2nd or 3rd, which is less than pleasant. On the plus side you can rev it to 5000 safely (or at least comfortably - to the ears - to 4500) which is perhaps half-way to petrol characteristics, but I remain unconvinced that I wouldn't have preferred to stick with the more rev-able petrol.

I exchanged a 1.8TSI Octavia for my 170 Yeti. The Yeti is equally fast albeit a little bit noisier. It is considerably more economic that the 1.8TSI octavia - especially on short journeys. And the Octavia was the efficient 7 speed DSG, better aerodaynamics, and 2 wheel drive - all of which should have enhanced it's economy compared with a 170 Yeti but it was nowhere near close - and the 1.8TSI Yeti will be even worse for economy. Indeed it was only on long journeys that the 1.8TS might get me 38mpg tops and was dreadful on short journeys. The 170 (still very stiff) is giving me about 44 overall and not much less on short journeys. It warms up quicker than our 1.9TDI Fabia as well.

On short journeys my CR140DSG will do about 15-20mpg over 1-2 miles. If longer, the mpg does improve. Average around London, covering about 30-40 miles in several blocks of say 5 miles, it will average during the day about 30mpg, whereas in the evening with much less traffic it can get over 40mpg over longer journeys.

I doubt that a petrol is much worse on short journeys.

Towing a caravan it did about 25mpg at 60mph.

Long journeys at 60mph ish it will do high 40's.

Long journeys at 70mph will do high 30's.

Check my fuel signature by clicking on it.

I will check mine on a long journey coming up soon.

Kitten and I are off to the caravan in Dorset for the Bournmouth air show that weekend. :yes:

I will check mine on a long journey coming up soon.

Kitten and I are off to the caravan in Dorset for the Bournmouth air show that weekend. :yes:

If the Lanc goes by, give her a wave from me :yes:

TP

Give us a clue.

What are your priorities in a car? Performance or economy? Budget (or not important)? Why do you need a 4X4?

PS> Welcome to Briskoda

Good questions. For what it's worth, I'm seriously thinking of going for a 1.2TSI DSG in Elegance trim when the time comes to change my 140 Elegance.

I have a set of winter wheels and I feel that I would get more pleasure/benefit from DSG than 4x4.

John

Good questions. For what it's worth, I'm seriously thinking of going for a 1.2TSI DSG in Elegance trim when the time comes to change my 140 Elegance.

I have a set of winter wheels and I feel that I would get more pleasure/benefit from DSG than 4x4.

John

CR140 DSG? Best of both worlds.......