With my vRS imminent in the next couple of weeks I've finally been thinking about it more seriously since ordering at the start of April.

With regard to the gearbox, is it almost impossible to stall the car? Other than driving like a fool and abusing the device mechanically, does the gearbox prevent this?

And are there any other useful/odd quirks people have found with use of DSG? A couple of test drives didn't really give me a chance to give the car a proper workout!

Thanks

i have seen auto boxes stall/cut out but that would mean a gearbox problem.

i would doubt the DSG would ever stall itself; it would more likely be other engine problems causing the stall.

what vRS spec is yours??????? hatch or estate, colour and options

One quirk I have found with mine is the delay in changing down from say 7th to 4th. If you floor it to overtake someone, the maxidot display updates to say D4 but the actual car takes a couple of seconds to knock it down 3 cogs, and you feel a few nudges in the back as it does so, finally followed by the full acceleration you need

I've never had my car stall...

May be worth searching the user 'Sharkrider', he did a fairly comprehensive post on the DSG box...

the actual car takes a couple of seconds to knock it down 3 cogs, and you feel a few nudges in the back as it does so, finally followed by the full acceleration you need

This is exactly what I noticed on my test drive. Presumably it's something you get used to?

This is exactly what I noticed on my test drive. Presumably it's something you get used to?

Yeh you need to adapt to it. It's a lot smoother in Sport but that gets tiresome unless you use the pedals.

what vRS spec is yours??????? hatch or estate, colour and options

Race Blue hatchback; standard alloys; cruise control and parking sensors.

Soon to be seen in the Brighton area!

This is exactly what I noticed on my test drive. Presumably it's something you get used to?

all you do to avoid this is use the poaddles to ovveride, simply click the left paddle 3 times (or more if it will go lower) a second before overtaking so your gear is selected and when you floor it you will have intant acceleration, it will change up at the red line (althoiugh I use the paddles to change up at about 6 k, as 6-7 k doesn't give any advantage), and when you're done hold the right paddle to return to D mode...

easy.

i dont really find any delay thats bothering me, the time it takes to change is still far quicker than i could manage in a manual but as posted, use the paddles so that your ready for the overtake

one issue i have is i park down a slight incline on my drive and have to reverse onto the road, twice now its rolled forward instead of holding it for 2 secs which makes you put ur foot down a little harder and you shoot backwards

so far i havent run anyone over but its always a possibility

Well Lee you're not far from me, I live in Bexhill but am in Eastbounre/Polegate area alot so only a 30min blast away.

I haven't seen any blue ones yet so please please post pics of the car. hope all goes well

Yeh you need to adapt to it. It's a lot smoother in Sport but that gets tiresome unless you use the pedals.

Yeah, although I don't know about other people but I tend to avoid sport. It just seems to rape the engine to the red line, which makes me cringe, and never uses the top gears. It seems to me like the only benefits are for preparing for an overtake (automatically gets in the right gear, but this is doable by paddles anyway) and it just seems like an easy way to get <30mpg economy!

one issue i have is i park down a slight incline on my drive and have to reverse onto the road, twice now its rolled forward instead of holding it for 2 secs which makes you put ur foot down a little harder and you shoot backwards

so far i havent run anyone over but its always a possibility

Yeah this is a slightly scary issue that takes getting used to. Parallel parking can sometimes be a bit scary in case you blip the throttle a little too much!

Edited 18 October, 201114 yr by George512

one issue i have is i park down a slight incline on my drive and have to reverse onto the road, twice now its rolled forward instead of holding it for 2 secs which makes you put ur foot down a little harder and you shoot backwards

so far i havent run anyone over but its always a possibility

My own driveway is around a 30 degree incline but I always reverse in so pulling away (and up) won't really be an issue. Thinking about parking facing downhill and then having to reverse, would 'standard' use of the handbrake override the Hill Hold Control?

Yeah this is a slightly scary issue that takes getting used to. Parallel parking can sometimes be a bit scary in case you blip the throttle a little too much!

I never had any issues with reversing uphill and I do park at a 15% incline hill most nights. It just needs to be gentle with the throttle but nothing actually difficult to achieve and still 10 times easier than doing it with a manual box. I don't know why some people are having problems with it, just take it easy you guys!

I don't know why some people are having problems with it, just take it easy you guys!

To each his own :p

No doubt people will get used to it, having only owned the car just over a week myself, I'm still getting used to things.

It does take a while to get used to the DSG, especially if all you have driven is a manual for years. Its good fun and saves alot of hassle in traffic too

The dry clutch dsg fitted on lower torque models (below 250NM) like the Fabia does take a bit of balancing when slow speed moving especially on inclines but you do get used to it.

The higher torque models get a wet clutch dsg and this drives far more like a conventional auto as the clutches are allowed to slip giving very smooth power take up. This would cause excessive wear and heat on a dry clutch though.

Trouble is the wet clutch dsg isn't as efficient and uses more fuel. VAG now have a dry clutch box that will take upto 600Nm but it's currently only fitted to the Audi TT RS. This will eventually replace the wet clutch box across the VAG group. I hope they manage to gain a bit more slow speed control on the new box.

Cheers

Lee

The biggest problem I have is with reverse hill starts.

Hill hold is supposed to work in reverse, so I tried it after parking nose in on a friends steep driveway.

I engaged reverse and lifted off the foot brake, waited for hill hold to come off, expecting the car to creep backwards.

Guess what, it started to roll forwards, whereupon I quickly applied the handbrake.

I then carried out a reverse hill start using the handbrake, albeit at high speed for a metre or so, very untidy.

So I am yet to perform a smooth reverse hill start after a year of ownership.

Not convinced that it actually works.

Regards

Tony :no:

One quirk I have found with mine is the delay in changing down from say 7th to 4th. If you floor it to overtake someone, the maxidot display updates to say D4 but the actual car takes a couple of seconds to knock it down 3 cogs, and you feel a few nudges in the back as it does so, finally followed by the full acceleration you need

Is that not the clutch riding? thats what it feels like put ya foot down in 7th and the revs of the engine go up but car isn't moving any quicker

Tony with DSG you take your foot of the break then press the accelerator then the car with the right amount of accelorator will revers backwards.

The DSG will not creap on a steep surface.

The dry clutch dsg fitted on lower torque models (below 250NM) like the Fabia does take a bit of balancing when slow speed moving especially on inclines...I hope they manage to gain a bit more slow speed control on the new box

FWIW I find it can be a little bit clunky 1st-to-2nd, then silky smooth after that. It makes everything, even quick starts, just so easy - even with the 1.2 engine twisting it.

Tony with DSG you take your foot of the break then press the accelerator then the car with the right amount of accelorator will revers backwards.

The DSG will not creap on a steep surface.

I need to test this more before I trust it. I need to make sure it holds and not roll forwards somewhere where there is no garage door to run into.

Any throttle seems to result in a high speed take off in reverse up hill.

So it's a firm grip on the handbrake for me at the moment.

Practice is required, definitely more difficult than a manual.

Regards

Tony

One quirk I have found with mine is the delay in changing down from say 7th to 4th. If you floor it to overtake someone, the maxidot display updates to say D4 but the actual car takes a couple of seconds to knock it down 3 cogs, and you feel a few nudges in the back as it does so, finally followed by the full acceleration you need

The nudges in the back are caused when the DSG automatically 'blips' the throttle. If you change down at a higher speed in the gears, you won't get the 'nudges'.

Hope this makes sense.

Regards

Tony

I need to test this more before I trust it. I need to make sure it holds and not roll forwards somewhere where there is no garage door to run into.

Any throttle seems to result in a high speed take off in reverse up hill.

So it's a firm grip on the handbrake for me at the moment.

Practice is required, definitely more difficult than a manual.

Regards

Tony

Sorry but I still don't get how it can be so difficult. Maybe there is something wrong with your gearbox or the Hill Hold sensor in specific? Could be worth checkin' out otherwise I can't justify this difference that you are experiencing compared to others.

To be honest, in my vRS I haven't ever, not in a single occasion, needed to use the traditional handbrake technique to keep me from rolling when I start on an inclined road. The HHC is activated from quite low angles so I always just lift my foot from the brake and on the gas pedal and I'm off with no unexpected bursts or rolling forward whatsoever.

Sorry but I still don't get how it can be so difficult. Maybe there is something wrong with your gearbox or the Hill Hold sensor in specific? Could be worth checkin' out otherwise I can't justify this difference that you are experiencing compared to others.

To be honest, in my vRS I haven't ever, not in a single occasion, needed to use the traditional handbrake technique to keep me from rolling when I start on an inclined road. The HHC is activated from quite low angles so I always just lift my foot from the brake and on the gas pedal and I'm off with no unexpected bursts or rolling forward whatsoever.

I agree with Newbie69. I've had my vRS two months and have never used the handbrake on a hill start. It feels strange, but you need to learn to trust the DSG box and HHC.

Building up trust in it is the hard part. Once you get used to it it's fine and a nice feature to have