Drove past filling station on way into work.

Petrol: 129p

Diesel: 143p (WTH is going on!)

Diesel has not been under 142p at this place..

Drove past filling station on way into work.

Petrol: 129p

Diesel: 143p (WTH is going on!)

Diesel has not been under 142p at this place..

FWIW petrol 128.9 and derv 137.9 at a local supermarket.

They are then adding 10p per L off, if you spend £60 in store.

That seems to be a lot of play in the price so either they are making a lot in store, or the prices at the pump are leaving them enough slack.

FWIW petrol 128.9 and derv 137.9 at a local supermarket.

They are then adding 10p per L off, if you spend £60 in store.

That seems to be a lot of play in the price so either they are making a lot in store, or the prices at the pump are leaving them enough slack.

10p off? which supermarket is this?

10p off is Sainsbury's when you spend £60 in store in a single transaction.

EDIT: Looks like the offer ended :(

http://www2.sainsburys.co.uk/instoreoffers/fuel-deal

Edited 22 November, 201114 yr by cheezemonkhai

You can still get 5p off at Tesco's if you spend £50, but if you read the voucher you can use 3 at a time getting 15p off

Sounding like an old fart now, but I remember 20 years ago, diesel was a fair bit cheaper than petrol. This was because there was a lot less duty on diesel than petrol. Diesel cars were rare, agricultural things.

Now every man and his dog has one, so the amount of duty on diesel has gone up to compensate on what the Government has lost in duty on petrol.

No idea about recent fluctuations though. I do seem to recall this heating oil thing being mentioned last year.

Difference is not that great in Blandford.

Tesco:

Diesel: 141.9

UL 95: 134.9

Esso:

Diesel: 143.9

UL 95: 137.9

This is the cheapest in the area, one of the joys of having only 2 petrol stations in town = no competition. Thank goodness I only use 1 tank per month, the last one cost me £70 for the superb.

You can still get 5p off at Tesco's if you spend £50, but if you read the voucher you can use 3 at a time getting 15p off

I think the offer is finish as i been a few times this week , spent £50+ and havnt had a 5p off coupon

With some round figure maths

Two cars with a 50 litre fuel tank (11 gallons), petrol achieving 50mpg and diesel 60mpg and a 10p/litre price difference (£1.40 petrol, £1.50 diesel)

The petrol car is costing 12.73p per mile to run in fuel and the diesel 11.37p per mile a difference of 1.36p or £136.38 for every 10k on the clock. If the fuel cost were equal the diesel would be saving £212.15 for every 10k miles.

Then you just factor in everything else, servicing, insurance, road tax, brake and tyre wear (the diesel car is heavier usually), initial purchase price, depreciation etc and you can get to a figure that tell you which fuel makes sense for the number of miles you will own the car.

Of course this does not factor in all sorts of other things like driving styles and journey types, car loading.

or the fact that it nearly always costs a lot more to tax a petrol car than it's diesel equivalent

But don't forget that it usually costs more to buy the equivilent diesel car to the petrol

Even second hand?

Even second hand?

Especially second hand. Used dervs are silly money on forecourts.

This is really a matter of discussion. I found some random news which says that car working on diesel might become more expensive. is this because of fuel.

Are Diesel Car Going Expensive

Even second hand?

Yes,

When we bought SWMBO's Rav4 we had a budget of £10,000. For that money we could get a 4yr old top spec petrol with low milage or a 6yr old mid spec with high milage. Even with the better mpg of the diesel the petrol is still cheaper for us based on 10,000 miles per year over 4years.

It was the same story when I bought my Octavia, a 2008 petrol Octavia vRS was £1000/£1500 cheaper than the 2006 diesel Octavia that I bought but at the time I was driving approx 30k per year so would save the difference within a couple of years.

Matthew

Around 10 or so years ago,good old Gordon Brown put a lot of extra duty on Diesel fuel, making it noticeably more expensive than petrol.

The reasons given were the usual" Diesels are more polluting-Green issues,etc".

The timing of the increase was when all the new direct injection diesels were coming onto the market.

Their much better fuel consumption would have meant a growing reduction in Gordon's tax take.

Was his big tax hike just a Coincidence?.........

There was a segment on this on the radio yesterday, didn't catch all of it but it should be on 5live iplayer somewhere between 830 and 845 in the morning

Which is fine, but very few of our members who have diesels do more than 10-12k/year - making the saving almost negligible when you factor in most will be urban or extra-urban.

I am a 20-30k member, and I drive a diesel..... <chug chug> I have started car sharing into work so that has helped reduce my annual mileage, and save the planet (and keeps more money in my pocket to spend down the pub / replacing things the local thieves have nicked!)

Heard a report of diesel at £1. 61 a litre up in caithness yesterday. because they're on the mainland they won't get the 5p, cut which the government just announced for islands, even though they are just as remote and the price is the same as it is in the hebrides.

Around 10 or so years ago,good old Gordon Brown put a lot of extra duty on Diesel fuel, making it noticeably more expensive than petrol.

The reasons given were the usual" Diesels are more polluting-Green issues,etc".

The timing of the increase was when all the new direct injection diesels were coming onto the market.

Their much better fuel consumption would have meant a growing reduction in Gordon's tax take.

Was his big tax hike just a Coincidence?.........

That was the case at the time, but not now.

The extra duty was only on the standard pump diesel available back then, but not on the new ultra low sulphur diesel that was in the process of being introduced. ULSD was taxed at the same rate of duty as unleaded petrol. The only type of pump diesel on sale now is ULSD and the duty per litre is still exactly the same as on unleaded petrol.

Hi everyone

Sorry to bother you all - I'm a reporter with the BBC and am doing a piece next week about the rising price of diesel - compared to petrol.

I'm really keen to speak to someone who bought a diesel car and is now finding its not economical.

If you think you can help - send me a message or email [email protected].

Thanks

You are never going to find anyone that can seriously say a diesel is not economical. If they do, they simply can't afford to run ANY car, petrol or diesel. The best/latest petrols may be almost as economical as diesels of similar performance, but most diesels still do better MPG, and the price difference between petrol and diesel, although it exists and has widened (always tends to stretch ahead more in winter anyway) only equates to 2 or 3 mpg which is nothing. Emptying the boot, pumping up your tyres, driving calmer - these will all make a bigger difference than 2 or 3 mpg. So sorry, if you manage to make an article out of it, it will be a load of tosh.

+1

Sums it up.

Less the Government and more the fuel companies.

We have stations here that take it in turns to be 1p cheaper every so often.

Goes up so it's 15p more, then one goes up 3p and the other down 2p, and so on.

I'd be amazed if there isn't some fixing going on there.

As to the article, yes please. I'd love to see less people driving dervs. Would bring the price down for freight.

I can't see that the huge price difference is justified, since derv is a left over from the catalytic cracking of crude when making petrol. It's easy enough to change the ratio, but you'd only do it when you refit a cracking tower due to the cost of the catalyst in the towers.

Edited 18 January, 201214 yr by cheezemonkhai

price gap between diesel and poof fuel seem to have narrowed a bit. 8p difference here today and the difference was 14p before Christmas.

Heard a report of diesel at £1. 61 a litre up in caithness yesterday. because they're on the mainland they won't get the 5p, cut which the government just announced for islands, even though they are just as remote and the price is the same as it is in the hebrides.

I used to live up in Thurso and when I went over to Orkney the petrol and diesel prices were lower than the mainland. Makes a mockery of the Islands only subsidy, maybe they should base the criteria on how some companies decide if you free postage. Even just outside Glagow I was told I couldn't get free delivery as I was not on mainland UK!