All cars I've driven have had a 4C warning. Most cars from the last 7 years will.

You asked a question and people have told you why it's there. If you choose to ignore it and know best, then so be it.

Well you must have only driven new cars then... I've driven tons of cars without it. I survived 4 winters riding bikes so I really don't need telling that it's 4 degrees out and having a loud bing in my ear to which every passenger asks what it means every single time it happens. My nan's Corsa doesn't have it, nor does my mates A3, nor does my mums Merc...

If you genuinely think that people need to know if its under 4c by a ding on their dash you need to get off the road. There's far more many hazards that aren't alerted to you for you to be worrying about.

I asked how to remove it, not "is it OK to remove it or will i die?"

I'm gunna disconnect the speaker I think

Can I unplug my fuel gauge? I know how far I've driven, so wont run out.

how is that anywhere near close?

i dont want to disconnect the temp gauge because its useful to see what temp it is outside, just like its useful to see how much fuel you have left. but i don't need it to ding and tell me its under 4 degrees if there's clear ice and snow everywhere. i also don't need it to ding if its only just went off (stop and start the car). it doesn't alert you if it's -6 so why do you rely on it letting you know that it's -4 - 4 degrees? last year there was no snow on one day, it looked quite normal out but it was -8c. no warning.

its just annoying, i dont want it on, if i could turn off the low fuel warning i'd do that too. i watch my fuel gauge go down, anyone that doesn't know their fuel is getting low must be stupid. i watch the needle hit full, then 3/4, then 1/2 and when it gets below 1/4 i know it's time to top up soon. i let the needle get into the red (way past the warning) and then fill up

not only that but i haven't found any slippery surfaces due to freezing temps until under 0c. i'm sure you'll disagree with that but in my own personal experience of 8 years driving, i haven't slipped on a icey surface until under 0c.

not only that but i haven't found any slippery surfaces due to freezing temps until under 0c. i'm sure you'll disagree with that but in my own personal experience of 8 years driving, i haven't slipped on a icey surface until under 0c.

8 whole years eh? Bets are you have almost certainly encountered black ice!:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_ice

Because it represents only a thin accumulation, black ice is highly transparent and thus difficult to see as compared with snow, frozen slush, or thicker ice layers. In addition, it often is interleaved with wet road, which is nearly identical in appearance. For this reason it is especially hazardous when driving or walking on affected surfaces.

Black ice may form even when the ambient temperature is several degrees above the freezing point of water 0 °C (32 °F) if the air warms suddenly after a prolonged cold spell that leaves the surface of the roadway well below the freezing point temperature.

Ice is an insulator, so air temp may well be above 8C, yet the road surface could still be close to freezing. Should it rain, this will only increase the risks. Air temp is not a true reflection on road surface temp

If you genuinely think that people need to know if its under 4c by a ding on their dash you need to get off the road. There's far more many hazards that aren't alerted to you for you to be worrying about.

So true . .

if i could turn off the low fuel warning i'd do that too.

Again, another feature for idiots, if you need a beeping to know you are low on fuel you deserve to run out in the middle of nowhere.

My ST doesnt even have a temperature gauge, I`m pretty sure at 4c everyone on the STOC doesnt crash them because its got a bit cold. None of our buses have them either, and again, we dont all crash.

Its a feature for people who are actually too stupid to be driving, if it saves you from an accident then you deserve to have the crash. I`m not fussed when Ice forms, if you go out and its anywhere near 0c then you take it easy and think twice, stupid beeping noise or not.

8 whole years eh? Bets are you have almost certainly encountered black ice!:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_ice

Ice is an insulator, so air temp may well be above 8C, yet the road surface could still be close to freezing. Should it rain, this will only increase the risks. Air temp is not a true reflection on road surface temp

So surely 5c is just as dangerous as 4c... So now you see my point.

If you actually use the 4c warning and listen to it, then unless you hear it you wouldn't know it's cold. My temp sensor broke so what if i heavily relied on it?

its a tool for morons and i want to remove it. why you can't just accept that and move on I don't know...

So true . .

Again, another feature for idiots, if you need a beeping to know you are low on fuel you deserve to run out in the middle of nowhere.

My ST doesnt even have a temperature gauge, I`m pretty sure at 4c everyone on the STOC doesnt crash them because its got a bit cold. None of our buses have them either, and again, we dont all crash.

Its a feature for people who are actually too stupid to be driving, if it saves you from an accident then you deserve to have the crash. I`m not fussed when Ice forms, if you go out and its anywhere near 0c then you take it easy and think twice, stupid beeping noise or not.

bingo, served, etc.

It's a feature which reminds elderly priests, Skoda's most common ownership group, to go back to the Skoda dealers and take up an hour of their time explaining it

If you actually use the 4c warning and listen to it, then unless you hear it you wouldn't know it's cold. My temp sensor broke so what if i heavily relied on it?

I'm guessing since its so important being compared to abs and saves so many lives, it has it's own warning light when it goes tits up.

It's a feature which reminds elderly priests, Skoda's most common ownership group, to go back to the Skoda dealers and take up an hour of their time explaining it

Wonder if they'll employ gadgetman?

I'm not really just making a statement here, just some facts, "ice alert" has been manufactured in my small home town for maybe 40 or 50 years, initially fitted to RRs and Bentleys - then rolled out as a standard tool on airport runways - all over the world. That firm later added a "friction level" road tester to their range of handy things to sell - and they tend to get sold all over the world.

I for one do tend to try to drive with caution and due consideration to the current road conditions, but then sometimes I go on 100 miles journeys in winter conditions and when you step into the car at +10C at sea level and drive at times up to 1,000 feet above sea level, it is quite handy to have an idea of what the temperature is round about you. Some people do use their cars for more than just driving 5 > 10 miles in a cossetted city environment.

Edited 30 November, 201114 yr by rum4mo

I like all the visual warnings.......But I don't like all of the audible warnings......I think some are bloody dangerous!!!!....I look at the dash and can see warning lights out of the corner of my eye.....I understand the reason for the dual visual/audible warnings....but I wish I could "mute" some of them!!!!!

P.S. in the sale lit it states the Fabia MKI is CANBUS.......and it does have a "can gateway" ...as I can see it and enter it on my VCDS... :wonder:

It does have a CAN gateway, but all the modules you can actually connect to and interrogate are KWP-1281.

I like all the visual warnings.......But I don't like all of the audible warnings......I think some are bloody dangerous!!!!....I look at the dash and can see warning lights out of the corner of my eye.....I understand the reason for the dual visual/audible warnings....but I wish I could "mute" some of them!!!!!

True, but when the brake pedal switch went flashing lights appearing sequentually - and at night in traffic, things got a bit exciting/worrying!

Can we get this thread stickied?? The angriness here is excellent and quite entertaining for such a minor topic (no disrespect Luke). Reading through this would perk me up after a dull day.

If he wants to disable the 4C buzzer then FFS who gives a ****? No on chips in on his other posts and asks "why do you want bigger brakes, you must be driving too fast".

Additionally if we're going to start quoting cr@p from wikiunreliableopedia then you'd be better off giving advice on how to drive when there may be black ice about.

A comparison to ABS is quite frankly ridiculous unless you want your abs to kick in every time you go around a blind bend because there may be something there that you need to do an emergency stop for;

This forum should be for friendly and useful advice not criticism and condemnation.

True, but when the brake pedal switch went flashing lights appearing sequentually - and at night in traffic, things got a bit exciting/worrying!

How true......when the ABS ECU packed up (complete total faliure) the whole dash lit up.........and the noise!!!!!......I managed to find a layby........It gave the impression that the car was going to explode!!!!

I for one do tend to try to drive with caution and due consideration to the current road conditions, but then sometimes I go on 100 miles journeys in winter conditions and when you step into the car at +10C at sea level and drive at times up to 1,000 feet above sea level, it is quite handy to have an idea of what the temperature is round about you. Some people do use their cars for more than just driving 5 > 10 miles in a cossetted city environment.

Which was my point on why it's there.

i don't see what the big fuss was about, he's only looking to disable the 'ding' not get rid of the temp reading, he can still check when he wants to or feels the need to. i agree 100% the ding is damn annoying especially when the temp is never the same, continuosly on a long journey

Which was my point on why it's there.

Oh boo, badly "put" - I was supporting your logic there!

Luke,

Not sure how or why but mine doesn't beep at 4 degrees, beeps for fuel or washer level etc but not temp. Flashes up on the display but no beep.

I'm sure this doesn't help you much but it somehow can be done.

This morning I had both low fuel and 4c warnings.

Fuel is a loud BEEEP

Ice warning is a subtle bong.

Two completely different sounds.

Might explain why Flipster above doesn't get the noise at 4c

I have realised something over the last few days.

Mine doesn't "bong" for the ice warning when you first start the car.

It does "bong" though as the other week we were driving home and as we pulled onto A64 the temperature dropped and the car "bonged" but not when I turn the car on it the temperature is already low.

The fuel was low last week and below 4c but I only got the "beeep" for low fuel... no "bong"!

It does show up on the screen though the ice warning and the temperature that stays for a few minutes.

Must be programmable somewhere then.

Phil

For the record, mine's an 05 plate and has the really harsh electronic "BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP" that sounds like a 10p RS buzzer. Does it on low fuel, low washer fluid, and presumably low temp (although I've only had it down to 3.5 and it doesn't beep until 3 IIRC so I've never heard it). My bosses car has the "bong" which is much more pleasant on the ears.

I actually have this wrong. Mine's an 05 plate, and has harsh "BEEEEEEP" for low fuel and low washer fluid, BUT it has the more pleasant "bong" for low temperature. As Phil says though, it doesn't seem to do it all the time. It did it when I was driving the other day and the temperature dropped to 2.5, but it didn't do it this morning when I started the car at 2.5 (but the display still switched to temp display and flashed).

Maybe it only sounds if the conditions change during a drive, whereas if you're just starting the car you're more likely to notice the display flashing?

Maybe it only sounds if the conditions change during a drive, whereas if you're just starting the car you're more likely to notice the display flashing?

I think you are correct as this is what I have noticed.