For the past number of years i have always bought pirelli P6000s for my car as they always seemed to sit above budget tyres in price (around £70-£75 each), but where a brand, and wore well. Lately and since driving my wifes car i have become more aware that they are really very poor for grip on anything but a warm summers day. Also, my car has never had the lightest of steering, but it seems to tramline at every opportunity and has a very small pull on any camber even though the alignment and all else if fine.

i am due to replace the fronts in the next month or so and am looking suggestions for an improvement.

i am happy to sacrifice some miles for better grip in the wet, but would be keen to keep the price reasonable (not bothered about brand). My driving is a mix of back roads and a roads, some good, some not so good on a 70mile daily round trip to work.

Any advice appreciated.

If all else fails i will buy any other tyre at a similar price because as far as i can see it, they can't be any worse.

Thanks

Colm

I will be getting Falken 452 or 912 next. Fairly good all rounders. About £75 a corner plus fitting.

I like the Falken 912s too. Have 'em on all my cars.

Good tyre for the money. Camskill are an official stockist and

are hard to beat price wise on Falken tyres.

Falken 452's are a fav of mine. Went toyo proxie's all round on the Furby VRS this time although reports are that they arent quite as long lasting but black circle were doing 15% off on them. £134 for 2

I have matador mp46's on the front of my vrs and they seem really good for money

i came across this problem with the old t5r , and a lot of it depends on your driving style , and what you want from the car.

had potenzas on the volvo and the mothers audi , and have to say these are a very good tyre , over the years and with the volvo tryed a few diff types ,

kumho ku31 ,worked well in wet and dry , but you could break traction if you wanted with agressive driving.

federal 595evo , not the super steel , very good in the dry and lasted well for the last 7months i owned the t5r.

conti sports 3s , well theses have to be the best that i have tryed , but at 150quid a tyre you want them to be lol

other tyres that i have not used but have heard good reviews about are the federal rsr track day tyre , alot of the volvo boys seem to be favouring atm and the verds ultrasentas , have no hands on expreince with the last 2 but from what i have heard would love to try soon .

hope this helps

Falken 452's great tyre, stay away from kuhmo's made this mistake in may fitted a pair to the front and they've worn out now! They gripped well but i expect more than 7 months from a tyre!

Personally I love michelin pilot sport sp2. and toyo t1R. wont ne getting 452 again since trying the other 2. I found they tramline very badly and are noisier than tje toyo.

Personally I love michelin pilot sport sp2. and toyo t1R. wont ne getting 452 again since trying the other 2. I found they tramline very badly and are noisier than tje toyo.

err wern't your tyres massive and over 205 in width Billy?

Found the 452's on a 205 size didn't tramline unlike the 225 kuhmos

im really pleased with my uniroyal rainsport 2s, nice and quiet and they've kept the octy from ending up in the foliage or upside down so far

im really pleased with my uniroyal rainsport 2s, nice and quiet and they've kept the octy from ending up in the foliage or upside down so far

+ 1 You'll have to go along way and pay silly money to beat these

on my 110TDI I use Falken F452s during the summer and they seem to wear really well, I expect a good 30k from the fronts and double that from the rears. I don't drive my car like a I stole it, but that said I don't hang about and most of miles are not motorway but instead are twisty A/B roads, and I haven't thought I was going to drive through a hedge yet! Possibly not the quietest tyre around, but I can't complain, but hard to tell!

I have just switched to my winter tyres - Goodyear UltraGrip 8, which seem to have a much softer sidewall (in the limited few miles I have done in them).

err wern't your tyres massive and over 205 in width Billy?

Found the 452's on a 205 size didn't tramline unlike the 225 kuhmos

yea they are 225 40 18.

The 225 45 17 michelins dont tram line like the falkens. I am going to get some 225 40 18 Michelin pilot sports next for the LCR rims.

I do agree that the falkens are damn good for the price, wear really well, and give plenty of grip but the noise and tram lining is not very nice, also put some 912's on the front of the GF car(hyundai coupe se) and in comparison to the accelera tyres (215 45 17) she had on before they give much better grip but again tram line something bad.

all these are fitted to genuine rims made for the car or one in the same platform.

billy

P6000's are terrible! Almost wrote off a brand new Lupo GTI I was testing a few years back due to those tyres - lots of other unhappy campers on Club-Lupo if you want to check it out.

As above, never had a problem with Falken 452's, currently my tyre of choice! Got Avon ZV5's on my Octavia at the moment and they seem pretty good so far.

Toyo T1-R or whatever they're calling them these days are good, but quite soft.

Based on the overwhelming support for Falken i got a price this morning (haven't had time to shop around yet).

912 - £73.20

452 - £80.40

includes fitting/ balancing etc but additional £1.50 per tyre for disposal.

Is there a lot of difference in the two, wear, wet and dry grip etc?

Colm

912's are positioned below the 452's in the range, so are more "all round" rather than "sports" - how that actually translates to the road, I don't know. I'm sure someone does

Go for the 452s, and take the old tyres away with you. Your local council recycling centre should take them off your hands for nothing. Therefore you have an extra £6.00 to put towards the 452 rather than the 912s.

I get my tyres from Camskill and get a local bloke to fit, new valve, balance & dispose of for £10/tyre. I just had my winters put on, an it took him an hour, so that seems pretty good value for money. Most "chain" tyre places will be £15+/tyre for fitting/balance/disposal/valve. Oh, my bloke only pays £1.00/tyre for disposal.

Its tge falken 912 i got on the mrs altea at mo, they are below the 452 as they are the non directional iirc

Speaking to the lads at protyre they seem to say its not much difference but what they said was the 912 is quieter

That said.... The altea is getting rainsports asap too