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the standard injectors pump and fpr are fine for 260bhp

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the fuel pump for the S3 looks like a bag of bits. but i found this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WALBRO-255-FUEL-PUMP-FITS-SEAT-LEON-CUPRA-R-20v-TURBO-/150528623815?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230c3484c7

is this what i would need? and if not why not? is it inferior to the audi one?

i might put a bid in for the injectors. what do they usually go for? they are at £51 at the moment are they a really dear thing to buy new? if not i might see about a new set.

with regards to the http://www.backdraftmotorsport.com/shop-turbos/1.8t-k04-1-turbo/flypage.tpl.html is this just a standard K04 or is it one which is a performance part? the narrative on the website does not mention hybrid.

if i get to the 280bhp mark will the standard gear box be ok if driven sensibly or at this level is it realistically just waiting to blow up?

many thanks for the assistance and prompt reply by the way, it is much appreciated.

If thats a genuine Walbro then they are good pumps but you'd need to be sure it would fit the VRS fuel tank. No idea why the S3 one is so expensive really!

I would ask for a part number on those injectors too before you bid as IIRC the genuine Bosch ones aren't brown. The part number (for BAM injectors) is 06A 906 031 BC so be sure first

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the standard injectors pump and fpr are fine for 260bhp

might be an idea then to get the K04 but only go to stage 1 with it and then there will be reasonable power but not the risk of going beyond what the injectors, pump and gear box can safely handle - but with the bigger blower less heat maybe generated so everything might have an easier life than if i had a maxed out K03s runnung 260 bhp. is this thinking correct? please advise of any pro's and con's of the maxed out 03 vs the less stressed 04 blowers

thanks

Ko3s won't do 260

The k04-001 is it slightly bigger brother so is bolt on item and a standard genuine turbo

Good for 260 bhp

Hybrids have been hit and miss to what you get!!

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Ko3s won't do 260

The k04-001 is it slightly bigger brother so is bolt on item and a standard genuine turbo

Good for 260 bhp

Hybrids have been hit and miss to what you get!!

will a K04 turn it in to a laggy machine or do they still have some bottom end pull? i spoke to backdraft and they said a good amount of mid range poke over the k03s and holds the boost longer. if a straight swap over a K03s on a std engine the K04 would give about a 5 bhp increase but quite a lot more on a remapped engine. they never mentioned bottom end pull.

i reckon some injectors, 4 bar fpr and uprated fuel pump and a K04 would be nearly all i need as 260 to 280bhp will be more than enough for me. just need to source the bits and then see about buying an exhaust to suit the application. and suggestions as to which exhaust works best on an octy running a K04? i have a thing at the moment for twin rolled tail pipes rather than the oval ones

mate the k04-001 is completly the same fitment as the k03s :-) so exhaust is same etc etc

even with fuel pump injectors etc etc it wont get to 280bhp

its a 260bhp turbo

to go to 280 you will need a hybrid and lots of other bits also

do your self a favour

go to tps buy a genuine k04-001 for #500 and fit it get it mapped and see what you think

260 with a good map will make you smile lots in an octy

mate the k04-001 is completly the same fitment as the k03s :-) so exhaust is same etc etc

even with fuel pump injectors etc etc it wont get to 280bhp

its a 260bhp turbo

to go to 280 you will need a hybrid and lots of other bits also

do your self a favour

go to tps buy a genuine k04-001 for #500 and fit it get it mapped and see what you think

260 with a good map will make you smile lots in an octy

this info is excatly what i have been looking for!!! so a ko4-001 will bolt straight on? im only looking for a safe 250bhp.

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mate the k04-001 is completly the same fitment as the k03s :-) so exhaust is same etc etc

even with fuel pump injectors etc etc it wont get to 280bhp

its a 260bhp turbo

to go to 280 you will need a hybrid and lots of other bits also

do your self a favour

go to tps buy a genuine k04-001 for #500 and fit it get it mapped and see what you think

260 with a good map will make you smile lots in an octy

You've got me thinking now. So this would be a straight swap on an ARX engine as in the 4x4?

Seen a few on eBay;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K04-001-TURBO-CHARGER-SKODA-OCTAVIA-1-8-VRS-180BHP-/130628194057?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e6a0c0f09

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A3-TT-Bora-Sport-Golf-GTI-1-8T-K04-001-TURBO-/350490147316?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item519ad739f4

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-GTI-1-8T-180HP-K04-001-UPGRADE-TURBOCHARGER-/190545640556?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c5d67bc6c

or would it be better to buy from TPS?

Anybody already running a K04-001 on here?

Wouldn't touch any of them with a bargepole TBH. They all look like chinese tat and will blow after 100 miles. It's been done before, don't skimp on it.

got my ko4 hybrid from cr turbos and its been great :thumbup:

this info is excatly what i have been looking for!!! so a ko4-001 will bolt straight on? im only looking for a safe 250bhp.

yes it will and is :thumbup:

dont buy the ebay ones as said there cheap ebay copies and it will be touch and go on how long they last

with tps it will be a proper oem borg warner turbo with warranty :thumbup:

and yes it is

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yes it will and is :thumbup:

dont buy the ebay ones as said there cheap ebay copies and it will be touch and go on how long they last

with tps it will be a proper oem borg warner turbo with warranty :thumbup:

and yes it is

i reckon you will have answered this one already with the posts above. just found this on ebayhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K04-001-TURBO-CHARGER-SKODA-OCTAVIA-1-8-VRS-180BHP-/130628194057?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e6a0c0f09

it calims to be a K04 001 TURBO CHARGER SKODA OCTAVIA 1.8 VRS 180BHP brand new and for £280. i am thinking too good to be true and probably the chinese tat 100 miler - what do you guys think?

mate, dont even ask....

for 280.....you would have better luck building yourself a turbo out of chocolate, would cost you a lot less too!

yes it will and is :thumbup:

dont buy the ebay ones as said there cheap ebay copies and it will be touch and go on how long they last

with tps it will be a proper oem borg warner turbo with warranty :thumbup:

and yes it is

thanks, don't you have to have a trade account with tps?

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mate, dont even ask....

for 280.....you would have better luck building yourself a turbo out of chocolate, would cost you a lot less too!

many thanks, thought so.

i tried to contact CRturbos to send them an email but my email is knackered so i guess i will have to do it tomorrow. i just want to know roughly the price for a basic K04 to replace my K03s. it does not have to be a mega hybrid 600bhp monster as i am looking for 260 to 280 bhp max. i was hoping it would be arount £600 to £700

thanks, don't you have to have a trade account with tps?

just a letter head with

steve954auto's

will get you an account :-)

just a letter head with

steve954auto's

will get you an account :-)

+1 mine is MB Autos :thumbup:

AUQ engine has 314cc injectors who are maxed out at cca 230bhp also the fuel pump, 225hp models have better fuel pump and 386cc injectors.

K03s is maxed at 220-230hp with all supporting mods, hybrid k04 which is direct fitment goes to 270-280hp but you need 440cc injectors, even better fuel pump than 225 models, EGT probe with ECU form 225 model, upgraded clutch etc..

AUQ engine has 314cc injectors who are maxed out at cca 230bhp also the fuel pump, 225hp models have better fuel pump and 386cc injectors.

K03s is maxed at 220-230hp with all supporting mods, hybrid k04 which is direct fitment goes to 270-280hp but you need 440cc injectors, even better fuel pump than 225 models, EGT probe with ECU form 225 model, upgraded clutch etc..

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Talking rubbish

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so a K04, LCR FPR, injectors and fuel pump would all be compatible to start and then a FMIC and bigger exhaust to follow when funds permit. does this sound possible? will it run ok like this or will i be needing the FMIC and exhaust right at the outset?

what should i look to pay for a K04 turbo? is a brand new K04 a good upgrade over the K03s or will it introduce much lag and make the car less easy to drive? i imagine a hybrid is a better compromise but seem to cost mega bucks

any thoughts? thanks

can you do this work yourself lee?

if not am not sure its worth the several grand it will cost to buy all the new parts and swap over for an extra 30bhp?!

hybrids are not mega bucks you just need it done properly, they are around 700 from cr turbos, think turbo technics still do them too, the bonus is you can fit with your stock setup. They would rebuild or exchange your own turbo.

If not the k04 001 iirc is a stock fit as already mentioned, otherwise you have to change more parts over to get a normal k04 to fit. A genuine one wont be cheap i dont suppose, probably similar money to the hybrid.

Again not sure its really worth the effort or money, hyrbid with your own setup, uprated intercooler, tip, injectors, fpr and map etc would be the cheapest route imo.

will it run ok like this or will i be needing the FMIC and exhaust right at the outset?

Ideally, yes. The K04 turbo'd cars run two SMICs as standard and when remapped they usually upgrade to a decent single FMIC so on the standard single SMIC of the VRS you're going to lose a lot of power when it gets hot.

Imo your not ready for a turbo upgrade yet!!! Do more research and go out in a few others cars before.making the choice

Power is no good with handling stopping and cooling not upgraded

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