ahh Jon fella I was the opposite! I had a mark I vRS, and although I loved the car, the gearbox self destructed at 45k and the console bused died + the EGR valve, and numerous wheel bearings,and skoda wouldn't replace the console bushes under warrenty, stating it was wear and tear (even though they later produced a modified part as it WAS substandard manufacturing, and should have been replaced under warrenty as "not fit for purpose" ) and they lost me as a customer, went and got my fiat grande punto sporting, mapped at 4k , ran to 110k absolutley problem free!!!!!! and what do people say about fiats? it was way better than my mark I vRS, never let me down... (and its handles as well as the mark II... always wondered what an abarth would be like...)

now the mark II , problem free (apart from delaminating alloys) at 25k ....

kind of ironic we have had opposite experiances!

I hope you get it sorted and working, its a good car, drives way better than mine now

Cheers Dave,

Don't get me wrong though, I really like my Fabia. I've spent lots of cash on it from new and I think it looks & goes great, as you know.

Just the very recent problems have annoyed me.

It's not as if I can't appreciate that 'these things happen', I'm too long in the tooth to have minor issues have me write off my car.

The Climatronic really, really annoyed me though. My Dad constantly giving me the "2 months old lad and there's no heater working"

We all froze are butts off over those days. It was impossible to defrost the car after the overnight cold. Then when it steamed up, the aircon had to be on in order to see out. This happening whilst on leave just topped it. If someone would have said to me "don't worry about it, It'll get fixed in the end", I would have punched them in the nose.

Then there's the 2 occasions where the dealer collects the car from the house and everyone can see my 'problem Skoda' being carted off for another repair. The melted wiper motor & trim, although a minor(ish ) problem, had me shouting FFS !!!

Johnny, one update for you and I'm sure you'll love it! Checked the oil yesterday after I don't know how much time, maybe 2 months as every time I checked it the indication was almost over MAX... Well, what do you know, the level was just before the end of the B area and the beginning of C:

Also, no warning at all, red nor yellow so I wonder how much left there must be in the reservoir in order for the warning to be triggered... Well, I've not filled up since my first oil change and therefore I calculate something like 400ml/1000KM which I find totally acceptable for this engine. The only strange thing is that It was not using any oil before, or maybe it was using 1/5 of what it used during the last period, so I wasn't expecting it. Maybe the short daily commute at -15 temperatures during the last 2 months made it thirstier? We'll see...

Anyway, it will just be in for its 15K KM service a little earlier (it now has 14200 KM) but better safe than sorry.

Edited 5 March, 201214 yr by newbie69

Johnny, one update for you and I'm sure you'll love it! Checked the oil yesterday after I don't know how much time, maybe 2 months as every time I checked it the indication was almost over MAX... Well, what do you know, the level was just before the end of the B area and the beginning of C:

Also, no warning at all, red nor yellow so I wonder how much left there must be in the reservoir in order for the warning to be triggered... Well, I've not filled up since my first oil change and therefore I calculate something like 400ml/1000KM which I find totally acceptable for this engine. The only strange thing is that It was not using any oil before, or maybe it was using 1/5 of what it used during the last period, so I wasn't expecting it. Maybe the short daily commute at -15 temperatures during the last 2 months made it thirstier? We'll see...

Anyway, it will just be in for its 15K KM service a little earlier (it now has 14200 KM) but better safe than sorry.

If you didn't check the oil at all and waited for the 2 oil warnings to come on, where would you stand if neither of the warnings were illuminated and the engine was damaged ? I guess Skoda would say that the oil should be checked by the owner manually as the warnings in car are a 'back-up'. Seems a little odd to me that both our cars don't warn us of low oil, or do they ? :think:

Wonder if there's a techie here who actually knows what amount of oil should be in the engine to activate either of the warnings ?

If you didn't check the oil at all and waited for the 2 oil warnings to come on, where would you stand if neither of the warnings were illuminated and the engine was damaged ? I guess Skoda would say that the oil should be checked by the owner manually as the warnings in car are a 'back-up'. Seems a little odd to me that both our cars don't warn us of low oil, or do they ? :think:

Wonder if there's a techie here who actually knows what amount of oil should be in the engine to activate either of the warnings ?

I doubt that they would actually blame it on the customer and refuse warranty work... imagine how this would sound If it went out public "skoda engines blow up If customers don't check their oil level regularly themselves as the car's oil warnings may not always work"? I mean most drivers out there don't even know what the oil does to the engine and when/how/why it should be checked and I'm pretty sure Skoda are aware of this fact. In my case, I was well-aware of the oil-habits of the 1.4 TSI before I bought it so I was keeping a close eye during the first KMs. After I had repeatedly found out that I had insignificant oil consumption I loosened up and therefore forgot it for something less than 2 months (~ 2000 KM).

On another note, I am more than sure that our oil warnings are functional. However, I am not prepared to put them to a test as to how low it should be for them to activate! I just wonder if there is an emergency reservoir not included in the measurement that we see from the dipstick because the measurement looks indeed worryingly low... So there must be something else.

When my light came on in my vrs took about 2l oil to fill to max, after 1L only just showed on dip stick.

I doubt that they would actually blame it on the customer and refuse warranty work... imagine how this would sound If it went out public "skoda engines blow up If customers don't check their oil level regularly themselves as the car's oil warnings may not always work"? I mean most drivers out there don't even know what the oil does to the engine and when/how/why it should be checked and I'm pretty sure Skoda are aware of this fact. In my case, I was well-aware of the oil-habits of the 1.4 TSI before I bought it so I was keeping a close eye during the first KMs. After I had repeatedly found out that I had insignificant oil consumption I loosened up and therefore forgot it for something less than 2 months (~ 2000 KM).

On another note, I am more than sure that our oil warnings are functional. However, I am not prepared to put them to a test as to how low it should be for them to activate! I just wonder if there is an emergency reservoir not included in the measurement that we see from the dipstick because the measurement looks indeed worryingly low... So there must be something else.

That's why I asked if there were any techies reading, maybe they know just how much is actually left when the warning is lit.

I may try and activate them myself and be the first. Maybe not with my recent bad luck :think:

That's why I asked if there were any techies reading, maybe they know just how much is actually left when the warning is lit.

I may try and activate them myself and be the first. Maybe not with my recent bad luck :think:

Jonny try pm'ing Kie here he's the one I think would be able to help

Just going back to the warning lights -

Yellow warning - oil level low

Red warning - oil pressure warning

Just an update: This morning I drove to the dealers to leave the car for service and just as I parked it in the garage, a big yellow oil warning came on! Lol, that's what you call "right on time"! So, the warning seems to work...

Just an update: This morning I drove to the dealers to leave the car for service and just as I parked it in the garage, a big yellow oil warning came on! Lol, that's what you call "right on time"! So, the warning seems to work...

PHEW !

Might be worth asking the dealer just how much oil is left when it's triggered.

PHEW !

Might be worth asking the dealer just how much oil is left when it's triggered.

Lol... What makes you think they would have the slightest idea?

I checked my oil while at work yesterday 5,000 miles since the last service, and I havent topped up! and bloody hell! I've used some! its moved a tiny bit off maximum...

still not gonna top it up between services this time though :p

edit: this could be the angle of our garage at work actually, because all the other checks I have done have been at home....

I may yet take back the fact it could have used a tiny ammount

I checked my oil while at work yesterday 5,000 miles since the last service, and I havent topped up! and bloody hell! I've used some! its moved a tiny bit off maximum...

still not gonna top it up between services this time though :p

edit: this could be the angle of our garage at work actually, because all the other checks I have done have been at home....

I may yet take back the fact it could have used a tiny ammount

After I was knocked off from the "No Oil" league, you're on your own out there! :p

Edited 6 March, 201214 yr by newbie69

After I was knocked off from the "No Oil" league, you're on your own out there! :p

lol... how many miles you done? your car may improve to no oil used

may I ask how people drive from cold too? I drive "normally" and often use full throttle and revs (although I try to avoid red-lining it)

it gets it up to optimum operating temps really quickly.... are people with high usage being "really careful" from cold?

just interested, to improve and possible link .......

lol... how many miles you done? your car may improve to no oil used

may I ask how people drive from cold too? I drive "normally" and often use full throttle and revs (although I try to avoid red-lining it)

it gets it up to optimum operating temps really quickly.... are people with high usage being "really careful" from cold?

just interested, to improve and possible link .......

Just done 9K. I could not really make a proper calculation of the oil consumption so far as the car went in for its first oil change quite soon after I bought it (ex-demo with 3K already done). Soon after that, I stopped regularly checking as I was not seeing the oil level dropping at all. Now at 9K it had almost consumed all the oil that was put in at 4.5K but not in linear way. That is from 4.5 to 6.5 nothing, and then from 6.5 to 9 all at once. As I said maybe it was the low temperatures than made it worse during the last 2.5K I don't know. In any case, I will have a more accurate view of how much exactly it consumes starting from today when I pick it up.

Driving from cold I am not reving it above 4K I'd say, but maybe it is not the best practice? Don't know about that... But certainly I'd not say my consumption is high (yet), more like matching the VW limits...

After advice from Sharkrider (dave?) and my mechanic I now drive normally from cold . Not hard by any means but get up to speed and I'll stay there. I tend to drive keeping momentum as much as possible, a technique I used with slower cars in the past so I stay at a set speed but use as little throttle as possible to stay there. For one it's more economical but I'm still making very good progress too. Once it's up to temp though I'll use the car how it's meant to be driven. I'm not dawdling or holding anyone up. As I said in another thread I've used 2.5 litres in 5300miles which is acceptable. I think a lot may be to do with the cold as now it's above 10c it's warming up quicker and I can't confirm yet as I'm still testing but using less oil too

After advice from Sharkrider (dave?) and my mechanic I now drive normally from cold . Not hard by any means but get up to speed and I'll stay there. I tend to drive keeping momentum as much as possible, a technique I used with slower cars in the past so I stay at a set speed but use as little throttle as possible to stay there. For one it's more economical but I'm still making very good progress too. Once it's up to temp though I'll use the car how it's meant to be driven. I'm not dawdling or holding anyone up. As I said in another thread I've used 2.5 litres in 5300miles which is acceptable. I think a lot may be to do with the cold as now it's above 10c it's warming up quicker and I can't confirm yet as I'm still testing but using less oil too

Very surprisingly the same driving style and oil consumption that my car has had. I too am convinced that the cold weather purchase has both blunted fuel & oil consumption. The winter isn't the idea time for a brand new car. Mines now done 4700 miles and about 2.5 l of oil.

Yeah fuel consumption has improved too. High 30's low 40's are easily achievable now round town. Haven't done anything long distance in a while. I'll be seeing what I do when I go down to Castle Combe as I'll be saving fuel on the way down, using loads on track then going home.

Now I drive mine gentler than you guys but it does get some stick when warm. Used 700ml in 4000 miles or so. Dad has used 1l in 6000 miles in his Yeti 1.8TFSI. New cars use oil - period.

A car with a turbo and a supercharger is going to use more oil than a 1.4 n/a surely?

Mine gets driven (before the wife got it) normally from the start. That is one mile to the motorway and then off to work for 35 miles. speeds will be traffic depenedent which can be very variabe from an 11 mile crawl or normal Mway speeds. I don't think i babied (sp) it but i have got high oil consumption even at 18500 miles (482 mls per 600 miles). so no new piston rings for me.

Mine gets driven (before the wife got it) normally from the start. That is one mile to the motorway and then off to work for 35 miles. speeds will be traffic depenedent which can be very variabe from an 11 mile crawl or normal Mway speeds. I don't think i babied (sp) it but i have got high oil consumption even at 18500 miles (482 mls per 600 miles). so no new piston rings for me.

Does that classify as high oil consumption? My manual says 500ml/1000KM is considered normal so If make the math seems just about right, no?

Does that classify as high oil consumption? My manual says 500ml/1000KM is considered normal so If make the math seems just about right, no?

To all intent and purpose no it is not as the VAG limit is 500ml in 600 miles, therefore i am just under, but when it is considered that this is done over a 300 mile interval, it is very easy to be a little off either way. yes it is a hot little beast so some oil volatility (even though it is a fully synthetic) is to be expected, yes it is a turbo so again this is also going to have an impact. but i would have still expected the consunption to be less than a Mazda ****el which was 1 litre per 1000 miles when all the inherent issues of the rotary engine aew considered. What does bother me is the black tailpipe as i am assuming most of that is my oil.

Your engine doesn't appear to use much oil, Sharks definately doesen't, but when you end up driving around with a can of oil in yout boot, you know you have an issue.

So, at the end of the day whilst having gone through the VAG test and found that it is within tollerance, i still believe it to have high oil usage. Something on the edge of tollerance does not make it totally correct, especially when dealing with consumption, but i will admit a line does have to be drawn somewhere.

Whoops, you cant enter the correct name for a rotary engine, it is auto moderated.

I get black on the back too jerry....

I started a thread last summer, as I was a little worried.... after giving the car a good clean, I went for an all day hard drive around some of my fave roads, and found little black spots all over the back of the car, after reading some replys , apparently they all have that, I think it runs a bit rich.... it has even been noted at the last WSM meet,someone following me, a little black smoke under hard acceleration! (not deisley, just a puff...)

I cant remember the last time the tailpipe was clean!

When my light came on in my vrs took about 2l oil to fill to max, after 1L only just showed on dip stick.

Blimey, it only takes 3.6L, it must be running on oil fumes!!

Tony

Mmmm interesting. I had the yellow light come on at 3,600 kms (dont know miles) stick showed very low Oil. Dont know how much I put in but it was substantial. Three days later my new car was on the back of a tow truck through Skoda Road Assist with an unrelated clutch malfuntion. While new clutch being fitted under warranty I asked for the oil level to be checked......they told me the oil sensor was faulty and would keep giving false readings so a new one was fitted... I should check the level and keep an eye on it.