I think the Indian vRS will be fast enough considering the amount of bicycles and Auto rickshaws in Goa and the terrible roads, I was scared for my life!

yeah, I know someone with a villa in Goa and he always comes back with horror stories.

They actually remove bulbs to save the battery on their vehicles!

yeah, I know someone with a villa in Goa and he always comes back with horror stories.

They actually remove bulbs to save the battery on their vehicles!

haha, well don't know much about that, i m from bombay not goa, goa is a village so these things are expected ;-)the stock 1.8tsi octy we get here comes with 15" wheels & jacked up suspension, if i post a pic all of your'll will laugh out loud lol..

On behalf of UK Briskoda contributors,thank you to Insane79 and PZ1811 who took the time to write explanations and attempt to get us back on track. PZ1811 highlights exactly why the car has been targeted at the market. Perhaps the old diesel/petrol discussions merit a separate link on this site and even have a Fight Club named Santa Pod and the Filling Station where we can lay down just who's fastest or ekes the most miles out of a tank.

Hoy that's my line :p ..... What Redboy said thank you Insane79 and PZ1811 great posts.

haha, well don't know much about that, i m from bombay not goa, goa is a village so these things are expected ;-)the stock 1.8tsi octy we get here comes with 15" wheels & jacked up suspension, if i post a pic all of your'll will laugh out loud lol..

Oh please show us some pics we only really see the same old Skodas more or less identical stock spec here!

Just occured to me, not sure it has been mentioned so far, 1.8 TSI is also probably used in India as it can use the 91 Octane fuel, the 2 litre TSI is just recommended to use 95 Octane I seem to remember from the fuel filler details.

I would also reckon they are using the older belt driven cams version, which has the max power starting at 5,000 rpm rather than newer chain driven cams which produces max power from 4,500 rpm whose acceleration figures are a couple of tenths better due to the wider max power plateau.

My company moves car production lines sometimes and this is a regular thing to move production lines every couple of years as chasis and engine lines get updated and the replaced production line gets moved out to Lease Developed and Developing countries.

Hope they enjoy what is a fine and economical car.

Edited 7 April, 201214 yr by lol

Just occured to me, not sure it has been mentioned so far, 1.8 TSI is also probably used in India as it can use the 91 Octane fuel, the 2 litre TSI is just recommended to use 95 Octane I seem to remember from the fuel filler details.

I would also reckon they are using the older belt driven cams version, which has the max power starting at 5,000 rpm rather than newer chain driven cams which produces max power from 4,500 rpm whose acceleration figures are a couple of tenths better due to the wider max power plateau.

My company moves car production lines sometimes and this is a regular thing to move production lines every couple of years as chasis and engine lines get updated and the replaced production line gets moved out to Lease Developed and Developing countries.

Hope they enjoy what is a fine and economical car.

yes thats current, we only get 97 octane fuel in the big cities, like bombay, delhi etc, i fill 97 octane in my car & it feels much smoother then 91octane, dunno if its a placebo or what, any feedback regarding that? the engine is the same 1.8tsi like europe with the cam chain..

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Hoy that's my line :p ..... What Redboy said thank you Insane79 and PZ1811 great posts.

Oh please show us some pics we only really see the same old Skodas more or less identical stock spec here!

here you go, thats the 1.8tsi octy..

here you go, thats the 1.8tsi octy..

Looks like a scout with those gaps under the arches lol

Looks like a scout with those gaps under the arches lol

yup it does, over here we get the rough road package, i guess thats why the jacked up ride height. we luckily do get aftermarket h&r springs with blistein shocks for people who want the lower stance.

yes thats current, we only get 97 octane fuel in the big cities, like bombay, delhi etc, i fill 97 octane in my car & it feels much smoother then 91octane, dunno if its a placebo or what, any feedback regarding that? the engine is the same 1.8tsi like europe with the cam chain..

We were trying to work out why the journalist was quoting 8.4 (!!!) seconds to 100 Kph where as it is 7.8 seconds for the UK version of the 1.8TSI, DSG or manual.

Might be a combination of the higher ride height and lower octane fuel used and more cooling fans etc.

The UK is a bit unusual for the diesel to petrol choice due the taxes on the cars and the deals Skoda have been doing.

The 1.8TSI was retailing for about 30,000 USD here where the 2 litre diesel was more like 35,000 USD.

Also fuel tended to be $2.15 USD per litre for petrol but more like $2.28 for diesel.

We do not have Government price control on fuel prices so fuel has gone by about two thirds in the last two years.

Always a tough decision which fuel choice to make. I have tended to have at least one of each fuel type but have 5 petrol vehicles at the moment which, since we are having industrial problems with our fuel tanker drivers, is a bit worrying!

Had a Enfield India up to a couple of years ago, now that was economical, 3 litres per 100 Km, but only around 15 kw I recall.

I do about 80K Km per year and went for the 7 speed DSG version of the 1.8 TSI and according to Skoda figures and my experience could sip at 6 litres per 100 Km giving it a range of around 900 Km if driving sensibly.

Just returned the 1.8 TSI DSG as it was nearing 100K Km and therefore nearly out of warranty, bought a Fabia VRS (which is suppose to use 98 octane fuel) but using our Octavia 2 VRS which in UK spec uses the 147 Kw 2 litre TSI engine ie the EA888 same bore as 1.8 TSI, longer stroke. Miss the auto box, prefer the Fabia VRS that only comes with the 7 speed DSG. Have a 1.2 HTP Fabia for college/school runs as VRS not good on warming up in the city and getting good mileage compared to non-turbo 1.2 HTP.

Love Skoda and hope they do not join the Euro currency as this is largely why they are much cheaper than Audi, SEAT and VW though I suspect SEAT will move to Mexico at some point.

Love where Tata is going with Jaguar Land Rover, shows Ford up what they could not do, shame they do not sell anything for less than about $50K USD.

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We were trying to work out why the journalist was quoting 8.4 (!!!) seconds to 100 Kph where as it is 7.8 seconds for the UK version of the 1.8TSI, DSG or manual.

Might be a combination of the higher ride height and lower octane fuel used and more cooling fans etc.

The UK is a bit unusual for the diesel to petrol choice due the taxes on the cars and the deals Skoda have been doing.

The 1.8TSI was retailing for about 30,000 USD here where the 2 litre diesel was more like 35,000 USD.

Also fuel tended to be $2.15 USD per litre for petrol but more like $2.28 for diesel.

We do not have Government price control on fuel prices so fuel has gone by about two thirds in the last two years.

Always a tough decision which fuel choice to make. I have tended to have at least one of each fuel type but have 5 petrol vehicles at the moment which, since we are having industrial problems with our fuel tanker drivers, is a bit worrying!

Had a Enfield India up to a couple of years ago, now that was economical, 3 litres per 100 Km, but only around 15 kw I recall.

I do about 80K Km per year and went for the 7 speed DSG version of the 1.8 TSI and according to Skoda figures and my experience could sip at 6 litres per 100 Km giving it a range of around 900 Km if driving sensibly.

Just returned the 1.8 TSI DSG as it was nearing 100K Km and therefore nearly out of warranty, bought a Fabia VRS (which is suppose to use 98 octane fuel) but using our Octavia 2 VRS which in UK spec uses the 147 Kw 2 litre TSI engine ie the EA888 same bore as 1.8 TSI, longer stroke. Miss the auto box, prefer the Fabia VRS that only comes with the 7 speed DSG. Have a 1.2 HTP Fabia for college/school runs as VRS not good on warming up in the city and getting good mileage compared to non-turbo 1.2 HTP.

Love Skoda and hope they do not join the Euro currency as this is largely why they are much cheaper than Audi, SEAT and VW though I suspect SEAT will move to Mexico at some point.

Love where Tata is going with Jaguar Land Rover, shows Ford up what they could not do, shame they do not sell anything for less than about $50K USD.

Hmmn, the 1.8tsi also runs on 91 octane fuel, so the slower 0-100 because of that? i fill 97 octane fuel in my tsi as its available everywhere in bombay, the reviewer must being using 91 octane as thats the standard petrol throughout india, which octane fuel did you use in your 1.8 tsi? i agree Tata rocks, he did an amazing thing to keep the Jag brand alive & kicking..

Thanks..

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I read the threads over on the Fabia forum last year with interest when the Monte Carlo was introduced. It had very similar looks to the vRS but without the performance of the vRS. It didn't matter though because it wasn't called a vRS.

Despite this there were (and still are) plenty of 'haters' claiming that a car shouldn't look sporty if it isn't.

'A sheep in wolves clothing', it actually appealed to me with the 1.6 TDi engine but was just to small.

If this vRS is the highest performing Octavia available in India then it is worthy of the vRS badge, if it isn't then feel free to give it the vRS bumpers, interior and spoiler but perhaps they could have called it something different?

Now what about an Octavia Monte Carlo in the UK with the 1.6TDi engine with similar but not identical looks!?

I'm sure this would have most of you reaching for the sick bucket but I'd have one!

Now what about an Octavia Monte Carlo in the UK with the 1.6TDi engine with similar but not identical looks!?

I'm sure this would have most of you reaching for the sick bucket but I'd have one!

That would be perfectly fine would give more variety, have its own name and not be a lesser car piggy backing off an established name and standard. I have no dramas with the Monte in the Fabia II (but then again I moved over to Octavia because I hated the shape and lack of a diesel VRS I miss my Mk1 Furby VRS)

But since this car is not called the Monte Carlo but a VRS that is neither here nor there, totally different thing.

yes i agree with you guys, this is the fastest octy over here, as the other one is the 140 Cr version, the 1.8tsi is much faster then that.

but off course would have loved the 2.0tsi but well :think:

Edited 8 April, 201214 yr by insane79

Hmmn, the 1.8tsi also runs on 91 octane fuel, so the slower 0-100 because of that? i fill 97 octane fuel in my tsi as its available everywhere in bombay, the reviewer must being using 91 octane as thats the standard petrol throughout india, which octane fuel did you use in your 1.8 tsi? i agree Tata rocks, he did an amazing thing to keep the Jag brand alive & kicking..

Thanks..

I seem to remember the fuel filler cap said 95 Octane and 91 in brackets which means it will run on 91 with slightly less performance ie there is a knock sensor in the block which will retard the ignition by a degree or two if the fuel starts to self ignite ie act like a diesel. Perfornance is automatically reduced by the Engine Management Unit when it hears knock but will re-adjust when higher octane fuel is added later.

I used 95 Octane as you cannot get 91 Octane in the UK as you can in India, the US etc. It might be popular if it was a few pence per litre cheaper too. We also have to use low sulphur fuel which adds further to the cost.

97/98/99 Octane is usually a waste of time in an engine which only needs 95 Octane. The exceptions are is when it is tuned to Stage 1,2,3 etc or there are very exceptional weather conditions. We use to reckon on the exhaust teperature being two degrees hotter for every one degree of inlet temperature and this translates to higher cylinder and exhaust valve temperature. I notice the Indian TSI had more cooling setup than the UK one.

Having had many cylinder seizures, pistons burnt though etc I would err on the side of caution but higher octane than specified is usually not worth the money. With the current fuel shortages in the UK we are sometimes having to put in high Octane like Tesco Momentum at 99 Octane which fortunately our local garage seems to have but is running out of normal 95 Octane and many of the pumps have run dry and out of service. Cost is around 10 cents USD for a litre high Octane petrol ie about the same or a little less than diesel depending on where you buy it.

Thousands of extra jobs around here due to the Jaguar Land Rover expansion, new engine plant being set up just outside Birmingham in a place called Wolverhampton, terrible football team but great news for jobs and the local economy.

Edited 8 April, 201214 yr by lol

When we had the official vRs launch here, we had a live chat with skoda officials in India. The most common question asked was why not the international VRs ??

And the answer given was that since the 2.0tsi demands premium fuel which is only scarcely or not available at all in India it was not the best (most profitable) choice.

Also the dsg wasn't provided as an option because there have been toooo many problems with the 1.8tsi 7 speed dsg, with cars having only 500-600kms on the clock and reporting mechatronic failures.

So ultimately it does seem that although it's not as good as it can be... The vRs we have here is good enough for India and all it s baggage ! Lol

yes i agree with you guys, this is the fastest octy over here, as the other one is the 140 Cr version, the 1.8tsi is much faster then that.

Well then for the Indian market the vRS badge is justified

When we had the official vRs launch here, we had a live chat with skoda officials in India. The most common question asked was why not the international VRs ??

And the answer given was that since the 2.0tsi demands premium fuel which is only scarcely or not available at all in India it was not the best (most profitable) choice.

Also the dsg wasn't provided as an option because there have been toooo many problems with the 1.8tsi 7 speed dsg, with cars having only 500-600kms on the clock and reporting mechatronic failures.

So ultimately it does seem that although it's not as good as it can be... The vRs we have here is good enough for India and all it s baggage ! Lol

Great reply cheers. Do you work for Skoda or a motoring organisation in India?

Haha..!! No Im not with Skoda nor with any motoring org ...

Jus a 23 yr old CA student .. And a little car crazy

@fubar The live chat was on the skoda indian website, anyone could log on the website & chat with the skoda indian officials during the launch, was a nice way to interact with them..

Well then for the Indian market the vRS badge is justified

Well i guess so :think:

I seem to remember the fuel filler cap said 95 Octane and 91 in brackets which means it will run on 91 with slightly less performance ie there is a knock sensor in the block which will retard the ignition by a degree or two if the fuel starts to self ignite ie act like a diesel. Perfornance is automatically reduced by the Engine Management Unit when it hears knock but will re-adjust when higher octane fuel is added later.

I used 95 Octane as you cannot get 91 Octane in the UK as you can in India, the US etc. It might be popular if it was a few pence per litre cheaper too. We also have to use low sulphur fuel which adds further to the cost.

97/98/99 Octane is usually a waste of time in an engine which only needs 95 Octane. The exceptions are is when it is tuned to Stage 1,2,3 etc or there are very exceptional weather conditions. We use to reckon on the exhaust teperature being two degrees hotter for every one degree of inlet temperature and this translates to higher cylinder and exhaust valve temperature. I notice the Indian TSI had more cooling setup than the UK one.

A different cooling system for the 1.8tsi over here ? didn't know that. What did you notice thats's different compare to the UK spec 1.8tsi..

Thanks..

Edited 8 April, 201214 yr by insane79

Well i guess so :think:

A different cooling system for the 1.8tsi over here ? didn't know that. What did you notice thats's different compare to the UK spec 1.8tsi..

Thanks..

A different cooling system for the 1.8tsi over here ? didn't know that. What did you notice thats's different compare to the UK spec 1.8tsi..

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Just looked different to my 1.8 TSI but since I sold it last month I cannot directly compare but there looked to be a couple of little fans at the top of the water radiator that I did not recognise compared to mine.

We rarely get over 30 C here but very occasionally get upper 30s whereas in India I imagine you get over 40C and on odd times nearly 50C in some area so you would need about 30% more heat dissappation than we do.

Well then for the Indian market the vRS badge is justified

By that logic since everyone in Holland seems to buy the Greenline for tax reasons should it therefore be changed to VRS badges and bumpers, its half way there with the wheels already :p

By that logic since everyone in Holland seems to buy the Greenline for tax reasons should it therefore be changed to VRS badges and bumpers, its half way there with the wheels already   :p

well silver1011 said that cause the octy 1.8tsi is the fastest octy in india, i m sure the green line isn't the fastest octy in holland..

A different cooling system for the 1.8tsi over here ? didn't know that. What did you notice thats's different compare to the UK spec 1.8tsi..

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Just looked different to my 1.8 TSI but since I sold it last month I cannot directly compare but there looked to be a couple of little fans at the top of the water radiator that I did not recognise compared to mine.

Those are not fans but the horns for the car, i guess they are placed differently then the 1.8tsi/vrs elsewhere..

Those are not fans but the horns for the car, i guess they are placed differently then the 1.8tsi/vrs elsewhere..

ohh, must be. What is the top speed quoted as in India since the acceleration is quoted as so much less? It is quoted as 223 kph here, had mine up to just under 200 before bottling, being done at this speed, and more, can mean jail and not just fine and licence.