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I second Carl's recommendation - I was about to press "Buy-it-Now" on a set of the Philips ones and the only reason I used the Ring ones was because they were free - a mate bought two sets and never fitted them. I still have a pair left somewhere!

£180!?

Stick it in the bank and put it towards a FL vRS with them already fitted.

LED DRL's will never look OEM on the pre-FL as it never had them so it'll always look like your trying a little too hard...

lol, £180 cheap, my friend! ;)

On The Bay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PHILIPS-UNIVERSAL-DRL-DAYTIME-RUNNING-LIGHTS-12V-LED-DAYLIGHT-8-/110761015919?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c9defa6f

Not only would I expect free delivery at that price, but installed, the car detailed and filled up with Shell V-diesel too! :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:

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I highly doubt the latest vRS DRL's have any kind of dimming module fitted inside. Most decent factory spec DRL's include ballasts (or controllers) which attached to each DRL before getting power from the car. It's these little boxes that in most cases act as PWM's, which reduce the brightness when getting a signal from, say, the headlight.

If someone could prove the RS DRL's don't need the controllers I would buy them in a heartbeat as the look OEM and the colour is a spot on match for Xenons - not the ricey blue you see on cheaper, tackier and chavvy rubbish in your local supermarket!

Also I don't think the Philips version are curved enough for the Mk2 bumper. By the time you've lined them up I bet most of the light is pointing out sideways so when you look face on to the car they appear a lot less brighter, which defeats the purpose when driving in daytime.

And in that video above you can clearly see the bumper profile on that Alfa is almost flat with hardly no curvature. Compare that with the Mk2 Octavia and you'll see that you have to angle the DRL to match the bumper profile. That then pushes the direction of the LED's outwards. Here's a crude diagram to show what I mean..........

DRLSketch.jpg

If the bumper is curved like this you need an equivalent DRL unit to match the profile but where the LED's still point forwards as shown by the arrows.

Edited by Akshay

Also I don't think the Philips version are curved enough for the Mk2 bumper. By the time you've lined them up I bet most of the light is pointing out sideways so when you look face on to the car they appear a lot less brighter, which defeats the purpose when driving in daytime.

Trust me they don't. I had them on mine and the light points straight forwards. I also had them on my L&K and it does the same.

Although they look quite straight in terms of the shape. They have angled reflectors inside which ensures the light points forwards. I can't remember the exact spec but it was something like up to an angle of 15deg of tilt and the light will still point forwards.

Remember on the MK2 Bumper your going to be mounting them in the lower outer grille which is on the inside of the foglight (i.e. towards the centre of the car) which is not that curved.

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Thanks Carl, I was sure the outer angle of the Mk2 bumper was at least 30 degress from central though. Do you know if the OEM vRS DRL units have the dimming module bult in or need a separate controller like this.........

http://www.ebay.de/i...=item53de707fac

Edited by Akshay

Thanks Carl, I was sure the outer angle of the Mk3 bumper was at least 30 degress from central though. Do you know if the OEM vRS DRL units have the dimming module bult in or need a separate controller like this.........

The position of where you would fit the DRL's means your not that far into the angle from centre. As i said they were on mine and worked great. There was actually less light spill to the sides than what you can see in the pictures above from the other ones i had. If you look at a set of vRS DRL's from say a 7 o clock position (taking 6 o clock as standing in line with the Skoda badge on the grille) you will see that they are no where near as bright due to the angled reflectors inside. The philips ones are the same.

Without taking the bumper off again i can't say 100%. However i am fairly sure they work as you have described above in that when they get a signal from the headlight they dim. There is no external controller of that i am sure. So if there is one it is contained within the housing.

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Thanks for the reply. Can anyone confirm if I would definately need a separate controller to dim the vRS LED's? I want to hardwire them in rather than going through the CANBUS. This way I only need feeds from an ignition live, earth and headlamp live.

How are you going to fit them? They have quite a curve to them and unless you have a FL vRS bumper you will have to do a fair bit of modifcation to get them to fit and not look cack.

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Hi I'm prepared to do some modification but I just needed to confirm the wiring requirements before forking out for a set as they're not cheap. Most quality DRL's these days incorporating dimming modules tend to go for around £200 so I'm prepared to pay that much.

I really can't see why you don't buy the philips one's then. They will perform as you want without the need for any controller's etc and you will be able to fit them exactly how you want.

But it's your hard earned. I just think you may be taking on more than you bargain for by getting the OEM vRS one's.

What car do you have?

I think the FL has the dimming built into the ECU as my LE has the same ECU and has a setting to turn them on/off if fitted

Listen to Carl - you are making a rod for your own back with absolutely no gain whatsoever by buying the OEM DRL's.

Due to their shape you will simply never make them fir a pre-FL bumper!

The Philips ones are >at least< comparable quality.

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Guys, the car I want to fit them to is a VW Tiguan, I have purchased a new lower splitter which has grill cut outs each end but due to the bumper's curvature I really need some units with a curved face but where the LED's point forward in the same direction. That's why I'm going down the retrofit route. I've been eyeing up suitable alternatives for weeks and the only ones that have come close are the Audi S6 units (£250 with controller) and new Honda Civic (too expensive at £200 for each LED unit!). The S6 housings are too big though BUT there are plenty of VAG cars running them and you'll find plenty of threads on the net where only a little bit of bodywork cutting has given good results.

I don't doubt your advise on this being a challenging project but I'm prepared to put in the effort if I can get the results I'm looking for.

As you can see from the example image below the bumper tapers off quite steeply to the sides. Even with the Philips angles of 15 degrees they will end up pointing out sideways. I tried it with a spare DRL set I had and they only looked bright when moving to the side of the bumper (I have a scrap one at home to play with).

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The lower spoiler above is what I have bought and the plan is to fit the LED units into those lower outer grills to end up looking something like this.................(poor photoshop attempt :giggle: )

ABTDRL3.jpg

ROTFL - it might have been an idea to inform everybody about the tiny detail that you were not talking about fitting DRL's to a Pre FL Skoda Octavia but a VW Tiguan :wall::giggle:

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ROTFL - it might have been an idea to inform everybody about the tiny detail that you were not talking about fitting DRL's to a Pre FL Skoda Octavia but a VW Tiguan :wall::giggle:

I never mentioned pre facelift Octavia. :think:

Hmmm true, but the mention of MK2 bumpers did imply your playing with an Octavia not a Tiguan. I doubt that any Octavia (inc 3) will share any body parts with a Tiguan. Maybe a question better asked in a Tiguan forum instead of a Skoda one? ;) ;)

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Ouch, talk about hostility. I feel like Bin Laden now! (before he was captured) :wonder:

I simply after some advice really and thought where better to ask than the forum where these LED's reside.

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Oooo no hostility dude, just there was advice being given about fitting them to an Octavia, as you'd asked about fitting vRS LED DRLs. LED DRLs are not Octy specific. Leaving out the fact you want to fit them to a non-Skoda was kinda dragging people along a bit, don't you think? :think: I mean play fair, Skoda bumpers are nothing like Tiguan bumpers.

You could use this set:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330502714121?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

....recessed into the slot in the bumper to give a straight view. Should be easily viewable from straight on. They don't need to be viewed from all angles and that kit has been used by several members with success.

If you want to dim them as well:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRL-DAYTIME-RUNNING-LIGHT-LED-RELAY-SWITCH-DIMMER-SEAT-AROSA-IBIZA-LEON-TOLEDO-/230776503014?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bb59fae6

Works quite well.

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you use this one to dim on indicator "Audi style"

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRL-DAYTIME-RUNNING-LIGHT-LED-RELAY-SWITCH-DIMMER-SEAT-AROSA-IBIZA-LEON-TOLEDO-/230776503014?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bb59fae6

....but given the distance they'll be installed from the indicators, that one would be fairly pointless.

This eBay seller has genuine FL vRS LED DRL's listed for £70 + £5 P&P each.

They aren't selling though...

You could get your hands on a pair for a lot less than the Philips aftermarkets ones if he accepts a cheeky offer!

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3a736e2126

Edited by silver1011

fark me...wats this world coming too.

1st a person in an oz forum asks "if anyone has been able to fit a honeycomb (from superskoda) on a tiguan", in the octavia section.

.....and now another person is asking if its possible to retrofit vrs drls on a tiguan, in the octavia section!!

sure they're both from the same vag family, but come on..........

all for asking about opinions amongst different makes, but it took 39 posts for us to find out its not for an octavia!! in the octavia section.........

getting back on topic - with regards to "dim" controller, i believe this is controlled by the car's brains, as opposed to a controller within the drl housing.

Edited by JR RS

However i am fairly sure they work as you have described above in that when they get a signal from the headlight they dim.

don't forget on the vrs, the drl dims on the 'sidelight' position too. i.e. no "headlight on" input trigger to dim the drls.

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Thanks for this guys and apologies for not elaborating earlier. I've been researching the right type of DRL for ages now and asking questions without a proper introduction has become too much of a habit! :whew:

I think I would still need a separate control unit to dim these DRL's but they are whitest I've seen on the market for a while.

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