Hey folks

I am using a CANBUS HID kit from "welldonehid.com". Its been four months i have been using them without giving any problems, I have noticed that most of the guys on the blog recommend not to use CANBUS kits. May I know the reason why??? Should I get rid of the CANBUS kit??? Because I really don't wanna ruin my car.. Any suggestions???

regards

Alam

With an Octavia MK2 you must use a canbus kit, otherwise they will not light up at all.

No, both my Octavias have NON canbus kits fitted, and are coded with VCDS for xenons without shutters. Neither give any error messages in the central electronics module, and I never get a bulb failure light showing on either car.

Other threads suggest that the canbus kit fools the canbus with a large value capacitor, which can ultimately damage the controller.

Mike

Not a huge problem IMHO, 'cos you should easily notice that you've got a blown headlight, beit HID or halogen.

CANBUS kits present a large capacitive load to the electrical system and can end up causing all kinds of fun and games - for instance there are well documented occurances of blown wiper motors on Octys due to this.

As for "not a huge problem IMHO" - it's not your electrical system at risk is it?

Mannyo - sorry mate thats incorrect.

To the OP - if I were you I'd remove them and replace with a non-CANBUS kit and get the coding done. At the end of the day you are looking at £50 to replace them but you >could< be looking at a whole lot more than that to replace bits of your electrical system if your current kit goes AWOL.

Mannyo - sorry mate thats incorrect.

I stand corrected.

I've got aftermarket HID kit fitted to my non xenon headlights for a few months. They work perfectly with the projectors all I get "occasionally" is a amber bulb warning light turn on all I do is turn them on the off again then the warning light goes out. Hey presto no problems. Fingers crossed anyway

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As for "not a huge problem IMHO" - it's not your electrical system at risk is it?

You're right, it's not. And if you read the post and what it referred to, you would have noticed that I was replying to Mike saying he'd got his VCDS coded (i.e. his aren't the "CANbus" HIDs) and doesn't get a bulb warning light. Not getting a headlight bulb warning, because it's been coded out, isn't a huge problem IMHO, as you should notice that you've got a bulb blown. (there'll be 50% less light on the road ;) )

Hmmmm....... What if I remove my CANBUS kit and replace it with Phillips Xtreme Vision 55W H7 bulbs?? I have heard that they are as good as xenons and I think it will definitely go with car's controller without giving any problems... What do you say guys??....

Regards

Alam

Hmmmm....... What if I remove my CANBUS kit and replace it with Phillips Xtreme Vision 55W H7 bulbs?? I have heard that they are as good as xenons and I think it will definitely go with car's controller without giving any problems... What do you say guys??....

Regards

Alam

I would save you're money - they are sh*te and not worth buying unless you need to replace a blown bulb. I know many people swear by them but honestly, the difference over standard just isn't very great IMHO.

Bear in mind they will cost you £25 - £30 a pair ( buy from a reputable source because there are LOADS of copies out there) so you are almost at the cost of a set of non-canbus HIDS anyway!

How about a 55W non CANBUS HID kit?? I don't think they require coding.........

How about a 55W non CANBUS HID kit?? I don't think they require coding.........

No and no.

I have my canbus kit for almost 2 years, July.

Placed on a 2010 model with MY11 changes ( After June production)

Xenon without shutters on latest models are now CH/LH on fogs.

I found that out when doing so just in case, like some have mencioned.

Then I just shared with you all.

You mean to say Alberg that since past 2 years you have been using CANBUS HID kit and you didn't face any problem at all with it?? Right

Get these non CANbus HID's and find a member locally who can code them, controller 9 needs setting to 'xenons without shutters'.

I have also heard of issues with CANbus friendly kits causing problems with the wiper motor, although plenty of people have not had any problems, tbh the choice is ultimately yours but for piece of mind go for the ones linked.

You mean to say Alberg that since past 2 years you have been using CANBUS HID kit and you didn't face any problem at all with it?? Right

Yes, my dad has same Kit on his Toyota Verso and a friend also has a kit on a 2003 Fabia.

Actually some people have problem with normal and 55w kits on their Fabias. Friend hasn´t any at all.

I have the 4300k bulbs, others have 6000k

No, you read my comment wrongly. When I say I never get a bulb failure light showing, I'm not meaning if a bulb is not working. I'm meaning that the CANBUS does not see the HID headlights as bulbs being out, and showing a constant warning when things are working fine. That's the whole idea of recoding with VCDS to tell the car that it is running xenons without shutters.

The canbus kit has the capacitors there purely to fool the canbus on the car that the HIDs are present, and simply prevents the bulb failure light from coming on, whilst the car is still coded for the original halogen headlights. It's far safer for the car to tell it that HIDs are there rather than the halogens, and not risk damage to the controllers that is caused by having supplementary components there that shouldn't be.

Mike

So, if I read your comment right: you'll still get a warning if you have a blown headlight?

Non canbus with coding is the safest thing to do. Why take the risk?

That's right, if an HID bulb blows, you will get the bulb failure light showing, IF the car has been recoded for xenons without shutters. I know this is true because a

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it has xenons fitted.

Mike

Aha, I stand educated. Thank you. I thought the re-code removed the bulb-warning altogether (I have a feeling was thinking of the cold-cathode setting) hence my comment.

wardth: at no point in this, or any other discussion, have I advocated the use of CANBus friendly HIDs, because I already know it's not worth the risk, and wouldn't encourage anyone to take that risk:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/237102-hid-conversion/page__p__2784706#entry2784706

wardth: at no point in this, or any other discussion, have I advocated the use of CANBus friendly HIDs, because I already know it's not worth the risk, and wouldn't encourage anyone to take that risk:

http://www.briskoda....06#entry2784706

??? At no point did I accuse you of doing so!

As for "not a huge problem IMHO" - it's not your electrical system at risk is it?

What does your comment to my quote mean, just out of interest?

Edited 8 May, 201214 yr by RainbowFore

What does your comment to my quote mean, just out of interest?

Exactly what it means - it's not you or I that are risking our electrical systems. It's not an accusation

Hey All, I know i am late in the forum discussion but i need to communicate an offer for canbus hid kits that you can buy it from here. 

 

Thanks for your time. Cheers

hello mates... so to be clear, its way safety to go with a non-canbus! my question is what about the W, can i go with a 55w non-canbus or i need to go with a 35w non-canbus?

i used to own a fabia and i had a 35w and replace with a 55w and was way better. 

Hey guys, 

 

I'm needing some help too with these I bought http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290737502231?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&var=590100134505&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

The kit i've oredered is a HID Kit Xenon Bulbs 35W Digital AC

I've tried setting VCDS to Bi xenon with shutters and without and can't get the bulb to power up..... suggestions?

these are the error codes on both occaions:

(without xenon coding)
00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 

            010 - Open or Short to Plus

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 01101010

                    Fault Priority: 1

                    Fault Frequency: 3

                    Reset counter: 37

                    Mileage: 66368 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2113.14.08

                    Time: 09:57:08

 

             Freeze Frame:

                        Term 15 On

                    Voltage: 11.75 V

                        ON 

                        ON 

                        Term 50 Off

                        OFF 

                        OFF 

 

 

(with xenon coding selected)

 

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 

            010 - Open or Short to Plus

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 01101010

                    Fault Priority: 1

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 36

                    Mileage: 66368 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2113.14.08

                    Time: 09:57:08

 

             Freeze Frame:

                        Term 15 On

                    Voltage: 11.75 V

                        ON 

                        ON 

                        Term 50 Off

                        OFF 

                        OFF

Have you checked the wiring to the kit?

 

The wire colours on the car are a little misleading.

 

Phil

Have you checked the wiring to the kit?

 

The wire colours on the car are a little misleading.

 

Phil

The kit has black and red wiring, red live black neutral and I pluged it in accordingly on the socket