Is it possible to set an indicator as a sidelight (us style) on a pre-fl? If so how in VCDS?

I am sorry I have no idea about VCDS but it does sound like something that is probably hidden in there. Out of sheer curiosity why do you want to know lol?

Yes it can be done but I don't know how!

The last time I saw a car setup like this, indicator on as a "sidelight" I wanted to do nothing more than drag the guy out oft he car and smack him one.

So off putting, every time I looked at him it would appear his indicator was on when of course it wasn't. Horrible

I dont know why you would want to do it, as it will obscure the indicators and someone could think you are about to turn and therefore pull out in front of you. Your insurance company could take a dim view in the event of an accident and refuse to pay out for making a modification which is outside of EU type approval for the car.

Any orange light illuminated at night time as a marker light (or side light) is legal. Flashing amber is indicator. I drove for years in my 71 beetle with red indicators (US spec) and no reverse lights (that year didn't have any). Thank you but I do know the law, and do not flout it being a knob, and am only interested in it as a matter of if? And for showiness. Thank you, and good night! ;-)

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Set it to somewhere between 20 - 50 to suit your tastes. I only run mine at 20. Failed my MOT for it and had to take my VCDS cable and disable it, then re-enable after the MOT pass. Just easier than arguing with them.

I think you will find that construction and use regs dictate only amber is used for indicators.

That would be why all American cars Imported have additional amber indicators fitted before they can get an MOT.

Reversing lights are a different matter. They are not required but, if fitted, must work.

Theoretically, you could remove the indicators completely and rely on hand signals ?!

The last time I saw a car setup like this, indicator on as a "sidelight" I wanted to do nothing more than drag the guy out oft he car and smack him one.

Chill

I think you will find that construction and use regs dictate only amber is used for indicators.

That would be why all American cars Imported have additional amber indicators fitted before they can get an MOT.

Reversing lights are a different matter. They are not required but, if fitted, must work.

Theoretically, you could remove the indicators completely and rely on hand signals ?!

Not trying to start an argument here, or be petty; But trucks have amber lights all down their sides?

Even more relevantly, Volvos and BMWs cars have permanently lit amber lights on the front.

Not trying to start an argument here, or be petty; But trucks have amber lights all down their sides?

Absolutely riddiculous reasoning - side marker lights for long vehicles are covered by a totally different part of the legislation. Next you'll

Be telling us that you should be allowed to have the lights red because 'busses have red lights at the back of them'

As I recal, the positioning lights at the front of a vehicle, according to UK law, should be:

"white or, if incorporated in a headlamp which is capable of emitting only a yellow light, yellow"

That said, in all honesty it wouldn't bother me if I saw another vehicle with it - each to their own and all that. I do, however, agree that it's a bit of a silly thing to do as it will mask your indicators. Plus it looks a bit crap IMHO........

I think you will find that construction and use regs dictate only amber is used for indicators.

That would be why all American cars Imported have additional amber indicators fitted before they can get an MOT.

Reversing lights are a different matter. They are not required but, if fitted, must work.

Theoretically, you could remove the indicators completely and rely on hand signals ?!

I'm not sure construction and use apply - 1989(?) vehicle lighting regs specifically deal with what colours can point which way on a vehicle in given circumstances.

Not trying to start an argument here, or be petty; But trucks have amber lights all down their sides?

lol yes they do these are not indicators these are side marker lights and denote the 'side' of the long vehicle.

Fill your boots on the Construction and Use Regs etc. At a glance of "Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989" I do not actually see anything saying they cannot be illuminated all the time only that they must flash between 60 and 120 times a minute and be amber what they do the rest of the time isn't stated specifically against 'indicators'. Dig deep and you will find something that doesnt allow it though possibly EU legislation for what colours can be shown front and rear. But as said there are other vehicles on the market with amber light showing forward these being independent of the directional indicators though I would think.

http://www.legislati...schedule/7/made

I think it has to do with lights and what country you select via VCDS , in this case United States

I would personally prefer everyone to stick to a uniform lighting scheme and that there be suitable enforceable legislation to cover it. I think public roads lit up like christmas trees are too full of distractions to be safe especially for all those people with less than perfect vision - 75% of people have poor vision and 25% of those still so even when wearing glasses. A nice even backdrop makes it far easier to notice anything out of the ordinary.

Please can I have amber indicators, red tail lights, White (<=5000K) headlamps suitably dipped, blue and red flashing lights reserved for emergency services and blue fixed lights on the bonnet to mark out those knobs who would otherwise blend in as ordinary road-users. Oh, and green lights at every junction I come to of course. Thanks.

A lot of vehicles have small, low wattage amber marker lights. As marker lights they would only need to be of 5 watts and not the full 21 Watts of the indicator bulb.

I'm surprised to hear about a MOT fail for them, as they are not an obligatory/testable lamp on class IV vehicles, as long as there are two front position lamps of the correct colour and position any extra orange lamps shouldn't make a difference.

A lot of vehicles have small, low wattage amber marker lights. As marker lights they would only need to be of 5 watts and not the full 21 Watts of the indicator bulb.

I'm surprised to hear about a MOT fail for them, as they are not an obligatory/testable lamp on class IV vehicles, as long as there are two front position lamps of the correct colour and position any extra orange lamps shouldn't make a difference.

I find MOT in GB to be lucky dip dependent on the IQ and opinion of person carrying the test out.

A lot of vehicles have small, low wattage amber marker lights. As marker lights they would only need to be of 5 watts and not the full 21 Watts of the indicator bulb.

I've seen trucks lit up like Christmas trees with multi coloured lights all over the front including blue ones, if they can do it why can't cars

A lot of vehicles have small, low wattage amber marker lights. As marker lights they would only need to be of 5 watts and not the full 21 Watts of the indicator bulb.

I'm surprised to hear about a MOT fail for them, as they are not an obligatory/testable lamp on class IV vehicles, as long as there are two front position lamps of the correct colour and position any extra orange lamps shouldn't make a difference.

If imagine, in the case of the octavia, if a lit indicator either masks or replaces the sidelight then that makes it an 'orange sidelight' which would be against the regs (?)

I've seen trucks lit up like Christmas trees with multi coloured lights all over the front including blue ones, if they can do it why can't cars

Too true. What's more, of the Vikings got away with raping and pillaging why can't I go out and do it?

Seriously though I've often wondered why te old bill don't bother the truckers. It's probably Too much hassle........

The BMW 5 Series has orange front facing markers integrated into the headlight unit, however it also still has separate side lights illuminated too.

If the Octavia I pictured above earlier also had it's sidelights illuminated I don't think it would be so much of an issue (from a legality perspective)?

I've seen trucks lit up like Christmas trees with multi coloured lights all over the front including blue ones, if they can do it why can't cars

I will tell you why :

The same applies to most Volvo's, but again they also have separate (clear) side lights illuminated at the same time...

Not trying to start an argument here, or be petty; But trucks have amber lights all down their sides?

neither am i but read what i said again..

i said "only amber is used for indicators" which means they cannot be any other colour, not "amber is only used for indicators" which indicates (sorry) amber cannot be used elsewhere.

as to the question of running lamps, this is the relevant section of C&U regs

requirements relating to obligatory dim-dip devices and running lamps

1. A dim-dip device fitted to satisfy regulation 18 shall cause light to be emitted from the dipped-beam filament of each obligatory dipped-beam headlamp, each such light having, so far as is practicable, an intensity of between 10 and 20 per cent of the intensity of the normal dipped beam.

2. Running lamps fitted to satisfy regulation 18 shall be in the form of a matched pair of front lamps, each of which–

(a)

is fitted in a position in which an obligatory front position lamp may lawfully be fitted, and

(

is capable of emitting white light to the front having an intensity of not less than 200 candelas, measured from directly in front of the centre of the lamp in a direction parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle, and of not more than 800 candelas in any direction.

3. The electrical connections to the obligatory dim-dip device or running lamps, as the case may be, shall be such that the light output specified in paragraph 1 or 2 above is emitted automatically whenever–

(a)

the engine of the vehicle is running, or the key or devices which control the starting or stopping of the engine are in the normal position for driving the vehicle, and

(i)

the obligatory position lamps, but not the headlamps, of the vehicle are switched on, or

(ii)

the obligatory position lamps are switched off.

PART II

Requirements relating to optional dim-dip devices and running lamps

There is no requirement relating to an optional dim-dip device or an optional running lamp.