What is the lowest you can go with lowering springs / coilovers with our the arb hitting the drive shaft ?? I want a 30mm drop but cant be doing with banging ??

No banging with just 25mm drop at all on mine.

What difference will 5mm really make?

Just get some mondo drop links £10 go as low as you want then within reason

Im sick to the back teeth of my vrs always something wrong with it. It was on my mates ramp the other day all wheels off the floor and one of the front subframe bolts were loose cured the knocking now its knocking again sounds like shock front left about ready to scrap it !!

iv gone 90mm and is fine

am slammed right down on coilovers with no issues other than spinal injuries and all my fillings have rattled out!!!

Doesn't the handling suffer though with overlowering?

Im sick to the back teeth of my vrs always something wrong with it. It was on my mates ramp the other day all wheels off the floor and one of the front subframe bolts were loose cured the knocking now its knocking again sounds like shock front left about ready to scrap it !!

Yours are the only bad words I've ever seen on VRS ownership :think:

Doesn't the handling suffer though with overlowering?

mine has front and rear lower antiroll bars, top front and rear strut braces fully polybushed and dropped right down on the coilovers.. it handles like a go kart.. which race cars have you seen that sit high up other than rally or dakar cars that are built for gravel/ mud/ snow and deserts.. there are none of them on my daily route so am ok!! the lower the centre of gravity the better..

mine has front and rear lower antiroll bars, top front and rear strut braces fully polybushed and dropped right down on the coilovers.. it handles like a go kart.. which race cars have you seen that sit high up other than rally or dakar cars that are built for gravel/ mud/ snow and deserts.. there are none of them on my daily route so am ok!! the lower the centre of gravity the better..

Suspension fettling is a somewhat a black art :think: . Lowering CoG brings its own problems, which then need fixes. The biggest thing is the roll centre lowers, actually creating more roll, and possibly causing some sideways migration. Normally this does create some strange handling characteristics as well as the distance between the COG and RC being a bit on the high side, increasing the tendency to roll at the front and therefore a possibilty to hang onto the bumpstop on the outside front during corners.

Race cars don't have to deal with crashy UK roads, so usually have very little damper travel. Rally cars do, so have much longer travel, compliant dampers.

I was always told by my mate (who's a teacher at Wiltshire Motorsport College) that the lowest you should go is when your driveshafts are horisantal (sp?).

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Making a car lower and stiffer will usually make it feel more fun to drive.

However there are many complex relationships going on between the suspension and steering, which determines the attitude of the wheels relative to the cofg and the roll centre.

You can, unwittingly, create some unusual handling traits. Of course, whether you ever manage to uncover them is a different question. And whether you're able to recognise them is another thing altogether.

Having played about with suspension design and vehicle handling at uni, I promise you it's an area of constant compromise and careful design.

You havent looked hard enough if my bad words are the only ones you have seen

stop being a pu$$y + just slam it!!

Agreed. DECK IT!!! Hehe

cant you get lower than that

I wish! That's as low as Weitecs go on the rear dammit!!! *fetches the angle grinder out the shed*

18ft speed bumps stop me going any lower than youve gone mate was just joking:)