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No problems for me over 20,000 miles of hard driving, apart from the very occasional 'false neutral' when I was trying to downshift just a wee bit too quickly using my paddles; now resolved as I leave a momentary pause between each click of the paddle (it's not an F1 car after all).

PS> Worth remember in discussions on DSGs that IIRC the TDI engined cars get a wet-clutch 6 speed box and the 1.2/1.4 TSI cars get a dry-clutch 7 speed box. I don't believe this makes a difference to the overall driving experience, but may be relevant when discussing glitches.

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  • brijo, you won't be disappointed. Take note of Johanns post about the bit of hesitation where the gearbox thinks it needs 1st but you want to squeeze in to that gap in traffic and it needs 3rd, it's j

  • On my octavia vrs, I leave it most of the time in "D". Copes quite well. Only tend to use the paddles when approaching roundabouts. As for manual, tend to stick it into manual when driving up some of

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Hardly ever is the short answer. Well not to row through the gears anyway. BUT when coming up to a roundabout you can easily catch the DSG out if you see a gap and need to accelarate quickly. It is sensing the car slowing down so when in 2nd it will have 1st ready and the DSG is expecting you to stop perhaps. But then you see the gap and put your foot down and very quickly you might need 3rd, yet the box had 1st ready... so some seconds for it to release 1st and select 3rd... So just before the roundabout you tap the lever left, tap down twice, the car is in 2nd and ready to pounce into that gap - or to stop.

That is a really interesting answer. Presumably when in manual the second clutch is in neutral?

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For those who don't know, I also have a DSG Yeti.

Before I took delivery I wanted flappy paddles. I believe I was the guinea pig!

I use D around town and manual outside of town.

I have had flappy paddles for nearly 18 months now and use them all the time.

Just as Bahnstormer described.

I did have a problem a year ago when I would get false neutrals when going down several gears for a bend, but it has been fine now for over a year.

I tow a caravan and use the paddles all the time to make sure I'm in the sweet spot of the massive torque range of the remapped engine. Pulls like it would climb a vertical wall :lol:

So in answer to OP question: yes I use manual a large proportion of the time when not in town.

Mike

Hi Mike

I'm fascinated! Are your flappy paddles an after market mod? I think there is a general consensus that even those of us who rarely use manual would prefer them to the stick.

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Lots of interesting answers here. No one had mentioned sport mode yet. Is this because it isn't used? I haven't driven the DSG Yeti enough to have tried it yet, but I use it on our Fabia when approaching roundabouts to force it to change down - otherwise you end up doing 15mph in 7th gear! I get the feeling that the Yeti box is more flexible?

My 'quote' button is still not working!

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"Hi Mike

I'm fascinated! Are your flappy paddles an after market mod? I think there is a general consensus that even those of us who rarely use manual would prefer them to the stick."

Mike and I have done the same. It's not an aftermarket mod, more a raiding of the Skoda parts bin.

We bought an Octavia vRS steering wheel with multi function and flappy paddles (being Elegance trim our Yetis already had a multi function wheel and IIRC you need this to have the section of the wiring loom to take the connection for the FPs).

The new wheel was fitted by our local Skoda dealers and we then found someone with VCDS (I went to Shark Performance) to 'tick' the box to activate the flappy paddles.

Job done.

Yetifabia - Sport mode will likely work in the same way on a Yeti.

Having driven 100000 miles in a 140 DSG Octavia and now with same on my Yeti, yes I do use the manual option to slow down in particular on steep hills and when approaching speed cameras in particular on my very steep local Elland bypass.

On our recent Eurotrip up and down many Alpine passes manual was ideal to hold the car back in downhill traffic, sport mode was great going uphill and downhill when not following some Doris in a tiny Atos or similar with a stink of burning brake pads.

I do not like constant braking and only had new front pads at 90000 miles on the octavia when one jammed on with a stone,all 4 pads were hardly worn, the dealer thought this was a record.

DSG is brilliant if only to alleviate left knee pain from various injuries and over 1 million miles of sales driving and heaven knows how many ups and downs of the clutch

Living in a hilly part of the world and the DSG really comes into its own.

Cheers :beer: :beer:

Peter

I use Sport mode occasionally, say when pulling out of a busy junction - yes we do have some in Pembrokeshire :rofl:

But it does hold on to the gears longer and the engine starts to make a bit of a racket - my first diesel car don't forget.

Drive mode is fine for most occasions, though I will slot it into Sport when I consider overtaking slower traffic, though foot to the floor & the DSG changing down a few gears down works pretty well too. :devil:

In 'other' autos sport mode sharpened up response and changed up later and never into top gear.

The Yeti sport mode only seems to hold on gears for longer and never goes into top gear unless you put on cruise control.

To me it is pointless and I never use it unless by mistake!!

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I still can't use the quote and multi-quote buttons. Anyone else having trouble?

In response to MikeWales and Rockhopper's post on topic of the 'sport' function; I agree. What one really needs, because D is too lazy, is something in the middle which I found ...

..... its a PedalBox that is designed to sharpen throttle response and in doing so makes the DSG respond better, particularly when wanting to nip out of a junction a la MikeWales!

Full details are in these two thread which, whilst similar, have differing comments/posts;-

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/235705-maximum-response-for-my-yeti-pedalbox/page__hl__+pedalbox#entry2880036

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/235706-maximum-response-for-my-yeti-pedalbox/page__hl__+pedalbox#entry2841209

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I use Sport mode occasionally, say when pulling out of a busy junction - yes we do have some in Pembrokeshire :rofl:

But it does hold on to the gears longer and the engine starts to make a bit of a racket - my first diesel car don't forget.

Drive mode is fine for most occasions, though I will slot it into Sport when I consider overtaking slower traffic, though foot to the floor & the DSG changing down a few gears down works pretty well too. :devil:

Like you, Mike, I tend to find that a shove on the accelerator gives me everything I need.

In 'other' autos sport mode sharpened up response and changed up later and never into top gear.

The Yeti sport mode only seems to hold on gears for longer and never goes into top gear unless you put on cruise control.

To me it is pointless and I never use it unless by mistake!!

I suspect that the torque characteristics of diesel engines don't suit it. However, I find it worth having on the 1.2 TSi Fabia and suspect that it would be good in Yetis with that engine.

I still can't use the quote and multi-quote buttons. Anyone else having trouble?

In response to MikeWales and Rockhopper's post on topic of the 'sport' function; I agree. What one really needs, because D is too lazy, is something in the middle which I found ...

..... its a PedalBox that is designed to sharpen throttle response and in doing so makes the DSG respond better, particularly when wanting to nip out of a junction a la MikeWales!

Full details are in these two thread which, whilst similar, have differing comments/posts;-

http://www.briskoda....ox#entry2880036

http://www.briskoda....ox#entry2841209

Quote & multi quote working for me so can't throw any light on your problem, I'm afraid. The Pedalbox certainly seems to have solved your problem.

I still can't use the quote and multi-quote buttons.

For the record, no prob here, either.

I have driven cars with 'auto' boxes pretty exclusively for the past 30 years and I can honestly say that in every one of the 17 cars I owned in that time, I used the boxes manually at reasonably frequent times - particularly if I wanted to enjoy a little 'spirited' motoring. I did flirt briefly earlier this year with a manual Yeti but changed it for my current one after a short time. My Wife and Son owned manuals if I really felt the urge to trouble my left leg with a clutch pedal - which was not very often.

My current Yeti with the DSG box performs admirably but I still enjoy pushing that lever over to the left and working the box particularly in 2nd, 3rd & 4th gears when the conditions allow. I find acceleration and braking a little more responsive through the box in these gears in the manual mode - and also it relieves the boredom sometimes.

Interestingly when I took my IAM test some years ago, in an automatic, you were expected to show that you could (knew how to) use the transmission manually and demonstrate that during the course of the Advanced Driving Test. During the test I duly used the box manually on a couple of occasions to overtake at speed and also once to brake when approaching a hazard. Unfortunately my examiner, a rather humourless Police Motorway Officer, decided that I hadn't used the automatic box in manual mode for enough times during my test (he expected me to use it more or less exclusively on any roads other than motorways and dual carriageways) and he failed me. I commented that had I wanted to drive 75% of the time in manual mode I would not have bought an automatic vehicle.

As an after note - I complained to the chairman of my local IAM branch and was promptly given a re-test with a different examiner which I passed with full marks - I understand the first examiner is no longer examining for that current branch.

Peter

Should we maybe add a 'Poll' to this thread to make the comments understandable 'at a glance'.

Something like "I use my DSG gearbox"

1. Always in Auto; 100% in auto

2. Occasionally in manual; 90%+ in auto

3. From time to time in manual; 60% to 90% in auto

4. Quite often in manual; 30% to 60% in auto

5. Mostly in manual; less than 30% in auto

Perhaps also with an often, sometimes, never for the use of 'sport' and also with a yes or no to flappy paddles.

I believe this can only be added by the OP.

My 'quote' button is still not working!

I still can't use the quote and multi-quote buttons. Anyone else having trouble?

Eureka; fixed it!

Full details in this thread - http://www.briskoda....ble-with-posts/

I use the manual mode rarely. I have always used manual before the Yeti and I would like to use it more but it seems impossible to use. With my previous car I could hear the engine noise (old diesel) and change gears accordingly while with the Yeti I can't (music is always too loud probably :rock: ). I know I can change gears looking at the current speed but with 7 gears I wouldn't have time to look outside. And this car even insults me, if I don't change gear when I am supposed to, the car does it itself :@ ... even in manual mode!!!

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Thanks hOrr - you are the first 1.2 driver to respond. They will all change up or down by themselves in manual if the revs go too high or low, but better than over-revving or stalling methinks.

After a total of 40 000 km in DSG cars (Yeti and Roomster) I find myself leaving the shifting to the car for most of the times using D. The only times I use the manual function is if I need a lower gear for more effective engine breaking, or if the road is hilly and the DSG keeps swapping gears depending on if we are going uphill or downhill. Occasionally I also like to "clean the engine", ie run for a few kilometers in low gear and high revs (4K+), and this can't be achieved without manual mode. This is something I do because I feel that when in D and mainly commuting the car rarely sees 3000 rpm. (engine in both cases 1.2 TSI so the dry clutch 7 speeder). I long ago realized that when accelerating there is no way to beat the box in selecting gears.

A small sidenote: did all you DSG owners know that the box comes with preinstalled launch control? If you select S and deactivate the anti skid, and then press both brake and throttle pedals to the floor, once you let go of the brake pedal the car will perform an optimal launch all on it's own. You will notice that the launch control is activated if the engine is running cleanly at ~1700 rpm with both pedals pressed. (I am not 100% sure on the anti skid button, but I think you need to deactivate this). This at least works for 1.2 TSI in a Roomster.

A small sidenote: did all you DSG owners know that the box comes with preinstalled launch control? If you select S and deactivate the anti skid, and then press both brake and throttle pedals to the floor, once you let go of the brake pedal the car will perform an optimal launch all on it's own. You will notice that the launch control is activated if the engine is running cleanly at ~1700 rpm with both pedals pressed. (I am not 100% sure on the anti skid button, but I think you need to deactivate this). This at least works for 1.2 TSI in a Roomster.

I knew there was a failsafe 'rev limiter' on manual cars these days i.e. clutch depressed, full throttle but revs limited to c. 3,000rpm (actually the same in my CR140 DSG Yeti when in nuetral; which will make life interesting when it comes to the 'smoke test' on an MOT which is meant to use full revs - but that's a subject for another day) but didn't know there was a 'launch control' ability.

I might just try it out tonight. :giggle:;)

IIRC this was discussed not too long ago in the Octavia and Fabia sections. I think the outcome was that the Octavia vRS has it but the Fabia didn't - never considered the Yeti in to the equation. Can't for the life of me post a link though.

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Launch control sounds interesting. I wonder if it's fitted to both diesels and petrols? I have one of each to try it on, although the Fabia might have to wait as the wife tends to get touchy about my using it too "sportily" :happy:

I still can't use the quote and multi-quote buttons. Anyone else having trouble?

In response to MikeWales and Rockhopper's post on topic of the 'sport' function; I agree. What one really needs, because D is too lazy, is something in the middle which I found ...

..... its a PedalBox that is designed to sharpen throttle response and in doing so makes the DSG respond better, particularly when wanting to nip out of a junction a la MikeWales!

Full details are in these two thread which, whilst similar, have differing comments/posts;-

http://www.briskoda....ox#entry2880036

http://www.briskoda....ox#entry2841209

Tried this? http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/242438-before-posting-in-this-forum-please-read/

Lots of interesting answers here. No one had mentioned sport mode yet. Is this because it isn't used? I haven't driven the DSG Yeti enough to have tried it yet, but I use it on our Fabia when approaching roundabouts to force it to change down - otherwise you end up doing 15mph in 7th gear! I get the feeling that the Yeti box is more flexible?

I use Sport mode on single lane country roads where you want to overtake. No matter what gear you are in, selecting S will immediately drop the gearbox one gear. So when hovering behind a slow vehicle your engine is already at higher revolutions and closer to the max power sweet spot, ready to overtake. So when the gap appears you don't have to wait those precious few seconds for the box to drop a cog (as you plant your foot) since you are already in the right gear to overtake.

I also use S mode for spirited driving down country lanes more or less for the same reasons as above - the engine is kept in the powerband rather than economy mode.

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