Some members are receiving very distant delivery dates....up to about 20 weeks. My dealer suggested when I ordered about 2 weeks ago that I agree to a car that Skoda had "scheduled' for manufacture. He said this would speed things up, rather than order a different car which was not scheduled nor in stock.. This meant that we accepted a 60bhp instead of a 75bhp which was my first choice, but otherwise is as required. I don't want to haunt the dealer about delivery, who said that putting our name on the 'scheduled' car would speed production of it. Has anyone any knowledge of this 'scheduled' and what it might mean for delivery time. Our present car is due for tax at end of this month and in Ireland that means €492pa (about £393) on a 1.6 2008 reg. The dealer did say that he expected we should have it in time.

Haunt the Dealer, thats what he's there for. If you wanted a 75 BHP you should go for one, not a 60 BHP.

Tell him what you want and when you want it. You'll be suprised how they can sort things out if they think there losing a deal.

As general custard has just said ^^^^ why go for a 60bhp when you want a 75bhp ? You'll have to rev the nuts of the 60 go back tell dealer you want what you want and it's the 75 bhp, however your paying loads of road tax on that 1.6

Will it be low or zero road tax for the Citigo in Ireland?

Mick

Will it be low or zero road tax for the Citigo in Ireland?

Mick

Mick we should be so lucky over here. Road tax will be €160 (Approx. £128). Car will cost €13,969 (£11,170) delivered. It's a 5 door, with 15" alloys, spare wheel/breakdown kit, manual height adjust for both front seats, multimedia holder, 3 year warranty until 150,00 miles. I only do about 5,000 miles a year We are screwed for taxes over here. Oh, and the PID is extra on the Elegance here at €350 (£280), which I have ready for car.

Edited 8 September, 201213 yr by Liam2

Haunt the Dealer, thats what he's there for. If you wanted a 75 BHP you should go for one, not a 60 BHP.

Tell him what you want and when you want it. You'll be suprised how they can sort things out if they think there losing a deal.

As general custard has just said ^^^^ why go for a 60bhp when you want a 75bhp ? You'll have to rev the nuts of the 60 go back tell dealer you want what you want and it's the 75 bhp, however your paying loads of road tax on that 1.6

Ye I know. I was disappointed about the 75bhp, but there wasn't a car available with my other requirements, and delivery if I stuck to the 75 was indefinite, and now it appears to be going way out for UK buyers...will be no different here. It's hard to feel that the 75 would be that much difference given the specs. and comments from reviews. I did drive the 60bhp and it was sprightly through the gears.

What might 'scheduled' mean though?

Scheduled! , how long is a piece of string, how big is space, you might be in for a long wait :( so no Eco tax for you ? Still get clobbered for 125 £, you tag Ireland , south ?, even part of the euro and still so much even paying for PID ? Bloody hell fire

Scheduled! , how long is a piece of string, how big is space, you might be in for a long wait :( so no Eco tax for you ? Still get clobbered for 125 £, you tag Ireland , south ?, even part of the euro and still so much even paying for PID ? Bloody hell fire

Mmmm. Think I'll check with dealer on Monday to see if it's gone into production yet.

Gentleman and ladies rev the nuts off I ask you where is your common sense - both engines have the same torque there is hardly any difference except 75 bhp delivers is power higher up the rev band -go try Scaletrix!

You'll have to rev the nuts of the 60

Really? Have you driven both?

What's a Scaletrix?

Really? Have you driven both?

It's got to be 15 bhp quicker

What's a Scaletrix?

Slot car racing

Not sure of the relevance though

Gentleman and ladies rev the nuts off I ask you where is your common sense - both engines have the same torque there is hardly any difference except 75 bhp delivers is power higher up the rev band -go try Scaletrix!

+1. I was more disappointed at the time I had to make the decision to accept a 60bhp, than subsequently after doing some research on on the subject of bhp in general and relating it to the specifications of the Citigo engine. Both engines are exactly the same physically, I understand, only different mapping. As you say, both engines have exactly the same torque, only the 75bhp delivers more power at high revs, where most people won't be, it seemed to me. Am I right?

Slot car racing

Not sure of the relevance though

Ah yes I had one of them, it was called Scalextric though.

Liam2, remember this a public forum were people express an opinion.

I wonder how many have driven both Citygo engine options enough to form a true opinion, rather than just looking at the power outputs.

They do not feel that different and the comment above about revving the nuts off a 60 PS shows a lack of actual driving to me.

I borrowed a demo 60 and did 180 miles, over half of it at the national speed limit. It's fine.

There is little real world difference becaue the extra power is higher up the rev range in the 75! so you need to hang onto the gears and rev more to feel any real difference.

I only bought a 75 because by default I go for the larger engine.

But I'm not sure it's required.

Yeah haven't driven both citigos, however on testing the lower bhp diesel and the 105 bhp you where aware of the lack of power going up gradient and on pulling out of junctions

Yeah haven't driven both citigos, however on testing the lower bhp diesel and the 105 bhp you where aware of the lack of power going up gradient and on pulling out of junctions

So someone is asking about how the engines compare and your answer is based a different size engine in a different car running on a different fuel!

Come on, how is that actually helping anyone!

For the record, this is exactly why I don't take much notice of forums unless I know the poster knows what they are talking about.

All it does is misinform people looking for genuine help, which is really not helping. It's just posting for the sake of it.

Emissions

CO2 emissions 105 g/km

Noise level 71 dB(A)  

NOx 0.012  

Engine and Drive Train

Camshaft type DOHC  

Engine displacement 999 cc

Compression ratio 10:5:1

Cylinder layout IN-LINE  

Number of cylinders / valves 3 / 6  

Cylinders - bore 74.5 mm  

Cylinders - stroke 76.4 mm  

Fuel delivery MULTI POINT FUEL INJECTION  

Number of gears 5 SPEED

Transmission type MANUAL  

Fuel Consumption

Combined 62.8 mpg  

Extra-urban cycle 72.4 mpg

Urban cycle 50.4 mpg  

General

Badge Engine CC 1.0  

Badge Power 60  

Insurance group (1-50) 1E

Anti-corrosion guarantee 10 years  

Paintwork guarantee 3 years  

NCAP adult occupant protection % 89  

NCAP child occupant protection % 80  

NCAP overall rating - effective february 09 5  

NCAP pedestrian protection % 46  

NCAP safety assist % 86  

Service interval mileage 10000

Manufacturer's warranty 60000 miles / 3 years

Vehicle Homologation Class M1  

Performance

0 to 62 mph 14.4 secs  

Max power 60 PS @ 5000 rpm

Max torque 95 Nm @ 3000 rpm

Top speed 99 mph  

Tyres

Tyre size - front 165/70 R14

Tyre size - rear 165/70 R14

Tyre size - spare TYRE REPAIR KIT

Wheel style WHEEL COVER  

Wheel type 14" STEEL

Vehicle Dimensions

Height 1478 mm

Height - including roof rails 3 mm  

Length 3563 mm

Wheelbase 2420

Width 1641 mm  

Width - including mirrors 1910 mm

Weight and Capacities

Fuel tank capacity 35 litres

Gross vehicle weight 1290 kg

Luggage capacity - seats down 951 litres

Luggage capacity - seats up 251 litres  

Max loading weight 361 kg  

Max roof load 50 kg  

Unladen weight 929 kg

Number of seats 4

Turning circle 9.8 metres

Emissions

CO2 emissions 98 g/km

Noise level 71 dB(A)  

NOx 0.012  

Engine and Drive Train

Camshaft type DOHC  

Engine displacement 999 cc

Compression ratio 10:5:1

Cylinder layout IN-LINE  

Number of cylinders / valves 3 / 6  

Cylinders - bore 74.5 mm  

Cylinders - stroke 76.4 mm  

Fuel delivery MULTI POINT FUEL INJECTION  

Number of gears 5 SPEED

Transmission type MANUAL  

Fuel Consumption

Combined 67.3 mpg  

Extra-urban cycle 76.4 mpg

Urban cycle 55.4 mpg  

General

Badge Engine CC 1.0  

Badge Power 75  

Insurance group (1-50) 2E

Anti-corrosion guarantee 10 years  

Paintwork guarantee 3 years  

NCAP adult occupant protection % 89  

NCAP child occupant protection % 80  

NCAP overall rating - effective february 09 5  

NCAP pedestrian protection % 46  

NCAP safety assist % 86  

Service interval mileage 10000

Manufacturer's warranty 60000 miles / 3 years

Vehicle Homologation Class M1  

Performance

0 to 62 mph 13.2 secs  

Max power 75 PS @ 6200 rpm

Max torque 95 Nm @ 3000 rpm

Top speed 106 mph  

Sorry Richard does this help :(. Seems there are differences in them , a little

Edited 9 September, 201213 yr by seboni121

Cheers Seb, see what I mean though?

Torque is the same at the same RPM, withe the extra 15PS arriving 1200 higher up the rev range.

So if you don't hang onto gears late there is actually very little difference.

Yes, the 75 does feel a bit better, but unless you tend to rev quite high up the rev range before changing gear, which most people don't in normal driving, there is not much in it.

Driving them back to back its very difficult to tell the difference around town anyhow.

I test drove the 60 PS, and i purchased the 75, to be perfectly honest, i couldnt really tell the difference. As im still running it in tho im not sure how it feels at the top end.

I test drove the 60 PS, and i purchased the 75, to be perfectly honest, i couldnt really tell the difference. As im still running it in tho im not sure how it feels at the top end.

Same with me on both points, really in the real world not much different

Cheers Seb, see what I mean though?

Torque is the same at the same RPM, withe the extra 15PS arriving 1200 higher up the rev range.

So if you don't hang onto gears late there is actually very little difference.

Yes, the 75 does feel a bit better, but unless you tend to rev quite high up the rev range before changing gear, which most people don't in normal driving, there is not much in it.

Yes this was the conclusion I came to after being initially disappointed accepting a 60bhp due to not having read up on it beforehand. In effect it's the other way round....you would have to thrash the 75bhp to achieve the benefit of the extra bhp. After all the peak benefit of the extra HP is in the red zone of the rev counter, ie over 6000 revs. I have never driven a car anywhere near the red zone and having driven the 60bhp I was struck by how low the revs were at 120km per hour legal Motorway limit...somewhere about 3,000 revs....similar to my Nissan Tiida 1.6. Therefor I feel that most people, including me won't be in that zone to benefit from the 75bhp. The 60bhp is cheaper and a little better mileage as well.

The thread has drifted a bit from topic though....which was that I was wondering if anybody had real knowledge of the possible benefit for delivery in ordering a car which was 'scheduled' as against ordering a car which was not. Somebody in the Skoda trade might have first hand knowledge.

I've not heard of "Scheduled" but there are cars already made either on the way to the UK, in the UK or still coming out of the factory which are generic builds (usually with few optional extras) that any dealer can reserve.

There is no difference in those cases to ordering, other than it gets here much quicker.