Nope! Could never be jealous of a derv!

Even after you get smoked by a 335d ?? And by smoked i dont mean covered in black soot.

Is it an engine/Diesel related problem? I first bought a Diesel engine vehicle (Horizon 1.9 XUD) over 30 years ago for a trip to Glasgow, with the intention of selling when I came home. That never happened. Went on to notch up >250k miles, similar mileage in the 309 which replaced it, and same again in the 1U after that. Replaced 2 glow plugs, one clutch, one battery and one air con pump in about 800,000miles. I can't agree that Diesels are generally unreliable, or costly to run.

They are different to both drive and maintain though.

My old Audi S3 used to get well into the low/mid 40's sitting at 80mph. 35mpg at 70 is tragic. Seeing as my S3 had 210bhp from an older engine im surprised the VRS petrol is not doing better.

I was about to smugly quote kerb weights thinking the older car would be lighter but nope there isn't much in it.

S3 had five cylinders too didn't it. More cylinders = lower mpg normally.

I can olny guess that the various emissions stuff cripples the potential mpg. The VRS is pretty good on mpg - power for cars build around the same time. I remember looking at the VRS before I bought and a boggo Vectra 1.8 was getting about 35mpg but only made about 120hp.

Edited 19 September, 201213 yr by Aspman

I managed an average of 45MPG Ave on the computer on my recent trip up to Bootle, that was with the cruise set at a fraction over 70.

So all in not bad for a 2.0T Petrol.

Not as good as my previous 8P A3 20.TDi (BKD) could manage, but I am hoping that the TSi will prove to be more reliable in the long run than my old diesel.

As I only do about 8.5K miles a year now I decided to switch back, these modern diesels seem to have, too many issues, due to all these Euro emission directives.

Paul

Even after you get smoked by a 335d ?? And by smoked i dont mean covered in black soot.

Nope. The "equivalent" petrol (the 335i) is quicker...

My old Audi S3 used to get well into the low/mid 40's sitting at 80mph. 35mpg at 70 is tragic. Seeing as my S3 had 210bhp from an older engine im surprised the VRS petrol is not doing better.

My vRS does similar

I am not really bothered what the miles per gallon is because I only do about 4k miles a year, so I am just going to enjoy having some fun in my new vrs when it arrives, I think that is the whole point of this car.

I'm very surprised that an Audi S3 can see 40mpg at 80, I didn't get that in my BAM engined Elise and that weighed 720kg!

PD170 here, 50.0mpg average on the computer over the last 6,000 miles of mixed driving - well happy with that as I don't always drive slowly.

37+mpg, 237 bhp, 403Nm. Seriously, if I really needed 50+mpg I would have bought another Focus TDCi and done cheap motoring properly! Maybe it's me but I just don't get the CR170 VRS, too slow & rattly to be any fun, and too expensive to be frugal. It's stuck in motoring no mans land.

I was about to smugly quote kerb weights thinking the older car would be lighter but nope there isn't much in it.

S3 had five cylinders too didn't it. More cylinders = lower mpg normally.

I can olny guess that the various emissions stuff cripples the potential mpg. The VRS is pretty good on mpg - power for cars build around the same time. I remember looking at the VRS before I bought and a boggo Vectra 1.8 was getting about 35mpg but only made about 120hp.

The old S3 was 4 cylinders but 5 valves per cylinder. I even got over 40mpg through france in it with 2 snowboards on the roof. I must admit the economy surprised me when i owned it. A nice surprise seeing how quick it felt. Amazing car sadly missed.

I'm very surprised that an Audi S3 can see 40mpg at 80, I didn't get that in my BAM engined Elise and that weighed 720kg!

PD170 here, 50.0mpg average on the computer over the last 6,000 miles of mixed driving - well happy with that as I don't always drive slowly.

It was more than 40mpg at 80mph. It never dropped below 40mpg at that speed and i drove it from Aberdeen to south of france on a couple of occasions and it always returned above 40mpg. Must have good aerodynamics compared to octy. Weight doesnt really affect MPG at motorway speeds anyway, its mainly aero so im not surprised your elise wasnt as good as it probably has a lot of drag.

27mpg average and I enjoy every mile!

My wee journey to Portsmouth i averaged 42mpg the TFSI is actually a really good engine.

With cruise control used all the way in a heavily loaded down VRS CR 3/4 of its journey completed with no refuels on route it showed this

After driving solid for (-60 min for Eurotunnel check in to hitting the track again)

I had covered

At an average speed of 57mph (not bad considering on a 650km/404mile drive the other week my average speed was 122kph or 75.8mph) in a TDCI Mondeo heap and that emptied it from full!

With a range left indicated

Showed average of

Then got on a ferry and off with a stone cold engine and tottled on my next leg and stopped 84 miles later (first 40 miles on motorway from cold). Doing same drive in reverse trip of that leg I got 65.3mpg with empty car and specifically trying to achieve a higher mpg as I am that sad.

Stopped for a bit of a kip then drove 20 miles the next day to refuel (cold engine start No3) and it only took 54 litres . 608 miles thats 51.1mpg my maxidot always works out to be bang on luckily. I have done same trip before and achieved better and worse 56 best 49.9 worst.

Trip was reset in last pic to try and line up a 8888 888.8 pic but I failed epically and dramatically :( final pic was after 10 mile cold engine run where I stopped to time it to take pic turned into a car park and had it perfect but as I rolled to a stop I messed up by 10 meters all in the interest of taking the picture safely and legally (lesson learnt)

For me a new diesel VRS cost £1000 more than a petrol one and second hand today book price is worth £2430 more than a petrol one so I am £1430 up on if I had of bought a petrol one and on top I have saved 10000 miles worth of MPG money (Parkers says I have saved in my 10K miles £415 if I was in UK paying for fuel). Then for road tax £60 cheaper so £90 less for the 18 months (if I had to pay road tax that is :p ). I have had car on top in theory. For some people a diesel makes absolute sense even my low mileage it does the savings I have made over a petrol at low mileage are the reason I have one. If I had of bought a petrol it would have cost me more in running costs and depreciation over the diesel so far. If I had of bought it at normal UK prices on the VAT back offer thing in comparison to a petrol the margins would be tipping the other way but not by very much. As I see it in the wider picture over all there is no massive gap in them even at low mileage for a UK brand new shopper and the people who do more mileage are laughing.

Prices based off the Parkers "Private Good" price for my 11 plate today.

It is enough to bring a tear to a blind mans eyes when you think what a Petrol Fabia vRS can do at the UK National speed limits.

It does take 5 miles to warm up & get 42 mpg, and 10 miles till you are up at 53mpg @ 70mph

george

You dont even need to stick below them to get that.

Its good job fabia vrs are good on fuel as that offsets all oil needed to be put in the thing

Its good job fabia vrs are good on fuel as that offsets all oil needed to be put in the thing

Ahhhhh so that wasn't the oil MPG I rejected the Mk2 when moving on from my 06 Furby VRS as it wasn't for me now im having to drive a stupid family car with a pointless spoiler on back about like an OAP.........

<br /><br />Ahhhhh so that wasn't the oil MPG <img src='http://www.briskoda.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> I rejected the Mk2 when moving on from my 06 Furby VRS as it wasn't for me now im having to drive a stupid family car with a pointless spoiler on back about like an OAP......... <img src='http://www.briskoda.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/emoticon-0175-drunk.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

<br /><br />Hahaha after endless trouble i rejected the fabs and at the age of 21 i now get ribbed for octy 'taxi' 'family car' 'old man car' but itll do me until i can get rid of skoda badge

Edited 21 September, 201213 yr by Rob-vrs21

My results would tally with Furbar's results (except I have 88,888 to come soon). Last holiday was around 3000miles, average speed was about 48, but that was 2000 mile of 80+ and the rest tootling around the twistiest roads in Provence I could find. The final all autoroute blast gave around the 44mph mark, up till then, average had crept up to mid 50's.

When ever we go with friends and two cars, one a petrol, their consuption is always way worse than mine, despite their claims that on their own they get better by xyz. They can never get near the rattlers mpg figures, or range, which really gets my goat.

Perhaps a modern petrol car with all the efi and electronic control can get decent fuel consumption, and there is no doubt they will rev on to produce a wider spread of power, but you never get both together.

Trip was reset in last pic to try and line up a 8888 888.8 pic but I failed epically and dramatically :( final pic was after 10 mile cold engine run where I stopped to time it to take pic turned into a car park and had it perfect but as I rolled to a stop I messed up by 10 meters all in the interest of taking the picture safely and legally (lesson learnt)

Only a thousand miles or so to the 9999 999.9 shot!

Im averaging 43 mpg in the last 8,000 mles!

Not bad for a petrol 1.8!

Impressive. With the same engine I'm averaging 33 mpg. Mostly 20 - 30 mile journeys on country roads & some dual carriageway, quite hilly. On a run on the motorway sat at 70 I'll see 40 - 41 if the wind's not against me. For the day to day drives my Elise driven enthusiastically beats the Octy.

What tyres are you running? I'm sure my mpg dropped around by 3 - 4 mpg around the same time I swapped from the OEM noisy sawtoothed Bridgestones to Goodyear Eagle F1's.

What tyres are you running? I'm sure my mpg dropped around by 3 - 4 mpg around the same time I swapped from the OEM noisy sawtoothed Bridgestones to Goodyear Eagle F1's.

On my old golf i witnessed a 3mpg drop when i fitted GoodYear Eagle F1 GSD3 (not sure about the GSD3 thing). Great tyres in the wet but i wouldnt buy them again because of the mpg penalty.