OK, so then why do some people feel the need to have a go when someone posts a GPS shot of speed being done, on a clearly empty dry delimited autobahn?! Just sad trolling in my eyes.

In fact I'm going to go see if I can find footage from my DR400G of said 135mph....

Was it on this forum it happened??

I must admit now I am maturing (nearly 40) I really like trying to drive without braking! Sounds shocking but it really is about flowing and finding the gaps in the traffic and above all being smooth, might be why the brake pads on my car have done over 50K miles.

When I drive my 1934 Morris it's the only way to drive!

i drive fast. i accelerate to the speed limit. its not economical but i built a fast car so why not??? You drive to conditions at the end of the day. if im in town, im not going to be doing 150mph!! I have had my car flat out on the "autobahns" when they were empty and at night. The only person im going to hurt is my self if it went tits up.

Every one blaps about at some point, if you say you never have, your chatting poo poo... Fact!

were all into our cars which is why were on a forum. there are to many trolls on here as of late i must say.

i drive fast. i accelerate to the speed limit. its not economical but i built a fast car so why not??? You drive to conditions at the end of the day. if im in town, im not going to be doing 150mph!! I have had my car flat out on the "autobahns" when they were empty and at night. The only person im going to hurt is my self if it went tits up.

That is probably the stupidist, most thoughtless and selfish statement that can be made by anyone!!

Do you ever think that there might be people you leave behind who might be upset if you died?

Also what about the poor people who have to pick up your mess and stick it in a body bag?

Do you think they enjoy doing that?

Or perhaps you don't die, and end up a paraplegic instead.

Who is going to look after you?

If your doing stupid speeds abroad then I couldn't really give a toss but if people post about doing it in the uk then I'll always have a go as I don't care how empty the motorway is, it will hopefully lead to you being prosecuted.

Unfortunately you get Chav boy racers on this forum who think it cleaver to do these things.

Here we go....

I'd actually like to see any videos you have Jase.

Every time speed is brought up on this forum there's always moaning about it. Mods please don't lock this thread too soon even though these threads only tend to go one way with people on either side stuck in their ways.

My days of maxing cars are long gone as the cars and top speeds are getting higher as are the amounts of morons about and as Richard said I'm more interested in acceleration and good cornering on a nice road. But if I was in Germany and I did have an empty autobahn to max out on then yes of course I'd do it. It's one of the boxes ticked in you driving life to do. The other which the Prague trip did is drive on the Ring which one day I'd love to do.

I know all too well about losing people in bad accidents. Just last Saturday I lost a mate in a car accident. Not his fault as he was passenger.

Aren't there lots of race tracks that will let you drive as fast as you want, without endangering others.

Many of us do track days, go to the Ring, drive on autobahns, etc and that's probably the safest way to "speed", unless you drive a Fiat. Top speed though doesn't excite me any more. When I was younger one of the first questions people would ask was "how fast you've had out of it". Bearing in mind this was back when first cars were 1.4 Astra's and diesel 106's you'd just about do 70mph. Now I really couldn't care less unless as I've said had a nice stretch of Autobahn to blast down since it's not illegal to do that, regardless of some taking moral high ground over the issue. Fastest I've driven on public roads lately was with the South Wales meet a few months ago. Nowhere near max speeds but driving spiritedly and having fun with like-minded people.

"High speed" is a variable depending on the road anyway.

The last time I was down south, I was on the A82 Bridge of Orchy to Tyndrum, which is safe at 60mph on the straights in the dry. It was blocked by an accident so I diverted down Glen Orchy to the A85. Anything over about 30 to 40 (and sometimes as slow as 20) is "too fast" (meaning that you can not see oncoming traffic in time to stop) on the Glen Orchy road!!

That is probably the stupidist, most thoughtless and selfish statement that can be made by anyone!!

Do you ever think that there might be people you leave behind who might be upset if you died?

Also what about the poor people who have to pick up your mess and stick it in a body bag?

Do you think they enjoy doing that?

Or perhaps you don't die, and end up a paraplegic instead.

Who is going to look after you?

people that would be affected/upset..

Mum, dad, brother, sister, wife, son, daughter, nan, aunties, uncles, mother in law, father in law, sister in law, brother in law, neice, nephews, mates, highways agency, police, ambulence workers, fire brigade, insurance companies, solicitors, coroners, Funeral directors, courts, highway maintnance workers, recovery drivers, scrap yards,companies that rebuild signs, companies that make barriers, white line painter people..

Putting bodies into body bags..

no this is not nice, i know this first hand as this is my day job. i pick peoples rotted/mutalated/splattered bodies up from where ever. some smell, some dont. Some make you sad if there small, some dont. Its my job, someone has to do it and infact i enjoy it. a day is never the same.

Being in a wheel chair..

Thankfully i have never been in one.. HOWEVER.. i did brake my back nearly 3 years ago that put me in bed for year, took me an hour to get up the stairs some times and genarally fkuced my life up. lost a pucker job and lost a good 2 years of being a daddy to my kids not being about to run about, being told i would not walk again. that i would be lucky if i get to walk with a stick blah blah blah... Still suffer to this day and rattle if you you shake me from the amount of meds i take, but then you would not know that if you were to meet me now!

Looking after me..

Well.. that was my wife (and the DWP giving her allowence and high rate disability to myself for 2 years)

i think you totally missed the point of what i wrote, and infact added to the original point of this thread of people on here taking things litterally or trolling. But as you asked the questions i thought i would answer them for you as clearly you cannot work them out for your self and think i have no clue about the outcome of driving fast. or maybe it because i have a modded car so maybe im a chav??? I hope i have given you enough insight into a small chunk of my life so when reading this reply you need not ask any more stupid questions again!

<<< i done a smiley so it means its ok.

I guess this depends what people class as driving at high speed; is 85 - 90 on a motorway high speed or is 60 mph on a wet back road with lots of bends high speed? I consider myself to be a good driver (as most people would consider themselves) and I do do drive fast; however, only when I think it is appropriate. I know what my car is capable of and I know what I am capable of, but what I don't know is how capable other road users are. With that in mind I only drive briskly when the roads are quite and I feel safe to do so.

The main problem I find is when other people who are not very good drivers witness someone driving fast, they want to condemn them to hell for it. Modern cars are more than capable of high speed; more so than most people realise I think so they automatically consider fast driving as dangerous, which it is not always the case.

I have found my driving to be much better now as a result of various track days and I feel I am able to control my car far better and have a greater understanding of what is going on. I am constantly alert in my car and I take pride in linking bends together smoothly, perfect gear changes, consistent smooth braking, etc etc. I think speed has made me a better driver.

For all of this tho, and I think we have all witnessed this at some point, is bad drivers who drive too fast. That may not even mean they are breaking the speed limit either; i'm sure we have all witnessed the local Neds taking out sheds down the back roads and driving far too fast for their car or their abilities. They scare me and make me want to overtake and get away from them as soon as possible.

Fitz

I generally drive to the conditions and of my knowledge of roads. If i'm driving down a road i've never been on before, i will always be more cautious. I have slowed myself down in recent years and wanting to look after my GF, car, myself, family, etc has played a part in this as i would hate anything to happen to any of the above but i have opened it out a little when driving on the motorway with no-one else around as i tend to head back to the West Mids at weekends quite late on a Friday night but i never reach 'top speeds'.

Speed is contextual... it is far less dangerous to drive at 140 on a deserted, well-surfaced motorway at 3am than it is to do 70 past a school at 3pm...

Speed doesn't kill. What does is the person behind wheel, who may make an irrational and/or dangerous decision.

This attitude that high speed automatically makes you a raving serial killer who kicks cancer-riddled puppies annoys me greatly.

Sadly the only video I found was me just cruising at 110. :( Feels so slow.

I generally drive to the conditions and of my knowledge of roads. If i'm driving down a road i've never been on before, i will always be more cautious.

This is an interesting statement - if you're driving to what you can see (ie your current and most up-to-date "knowledge" of the road) can knowing how the road was in the past help you to drive faster and is driving the same stretch of road ever the same?

As an example, there's a nice straight road with a shallow hidden dip. The sun is shining, there's good visibility with no other cars around and the only hazard on the road is the hidden dip. You've driven that road hundreds of times without incident and you know the dip is too shallow to conceal a car so you assume the road ahead must be clear and put the pedal to the metal and pick a speed that you think is appropriate to those conditions (based on previous experience). However, today there's a difference and as you approach the hidden dip, Bambi (or perhaps the remains of Bambi ) comes into view...

Imhe, I drive quickest on roads I am not familiar with and as I gain familiarity and build up a knowledge of hazards, my progress along those roads will never increase and most likely will fall if there were things I missed/misread initially.

Chris

The roads i mean have no hidden dips, so were there a road with such a dip, i would be more cautious incase something were lying dead there.

The main roads i open up on are motorways or dual carriageways that don't contain dips.

When I'm driving in built up areas with a 30 limit, I generally stick to 30. Am I dangerous?

You 'generally' stick to 30 in areas with a 30 limit? Genius!

Don't come driving down my road please

The roads i mean have no hidden dips, so were there a road with such a dip, i would be more cautious incase something were lying dead there.

The main roads i open up on are motorways or dual carriageways that don't contain dips.

The hidden dip was an arbitrary example

How about this to consider ... If you're driving along a deserted, unlit motorway at 3am, what speed can you drive at before the distance you need to stop exceeds the area illuminated by your headlights and you hit the unseen debris that fell off a car/lorry/bridge ahead of you...?

Chris

I wonder how many of the people who drive quickly have ever considered or done an Advanced Driving course?

Thee are roads in the British Isles that are de-restricted, like Autobarns and race/test tracks.

I wonder how many of the people who drive quickly have ever considered or done an Advanced Driving course?

I've considered it many times. What's your point?

Fitz

I wonder how many of the people who drive quickly have ever considered or done an Advanced Driving course?

I want to do one but I want one that is worth the money and I'll learn from. I know I've asked this before but what is definitively the best one to do at the moment?

This is an interesting statement - if you're driving to what you can see (ie your current and most up-to-date "knowledge" of the road) can knowing how the road was in the past help you to drive faster and is driving the same stretch of road ever the same?

As an example, there's a nice straight road with a shallow hidden dip. The sun is shining, there's good visibility with no other cars around and the only hazard on the road is the hidden dip. You've driven that road hundreds of times without incident and you know the dip is too shallow to conceal a car so you assume the road ahead must be clear and put the pedal to the metal and pick a speed that you think is appropriate to those conditions (based on previous experience). However, today there's a difference and as you approach the hidden dip, Bambi (or perhaps the remains of Bambi ) comes into view...

Imhe, I drive quickest on roads I am not familiar with and as I gain familiarity and build up a knowledge of hazards, my progress along those roads will never increase and most likely will fall if there were things I missed/misread initially.

Chris

I agree up to a point; where familiarity helps is when you're on roads where the vanishing point closes down until you reach a false apex or crest, and then starts to open very quickly, so that on tick 1 it appears that a safe speed for $hazard is X, but on tick 3, when you still haven't reached the hazard, the vanishing point moves away from you and the safe speed rizes to X+A.

The hidden dip was an arbitrary example

How about this to consider ... If you're driving along a deserted, unlit motorway at 3am, what speed can you drive at before the distance you need to stop exceeds the area illuminated by your headlights and you hit the unseen debris that fell off a car/lorry/bridge ahead of you...?

Chris

Take that one further; what speed can you drive at before the stopping distance exceeds your dipped beam range, just in case something appears ahead causing you to dip your lights just before they would have illuminated Chris's debris?