Hi All,

Sorry for posting about stuff was already discussed plenty of times but I being not very technical I've got a little bit confused. I’ve thought that Eibach Pro-kit are worst quality/lower grade than Sport-line also Pro-kit only allows lower VRSs by 20mm what a lot of people described as "not much noticeable difference" from OEM springs. Sport line lowers VRSs by 50 mm so its noticeable difference . I’m planning to drop mine only on springs as dampers were recently exchange by previous owner(OEM).

I’m planning to keep the car for long so don’t won’t to buy cheap **** as well so please, “DUMB” explanation/ suggestion of what comes with what would be much appreciated.

Thank you in advance

Edited 11 October, 201213 yr by VRSka

As far as i'm aware eibach only make one kit for the octavia which is a "pro" kit ie a mild drop.

They make "sportline" kits for other vehicles which is a more significant drop, but to my knowledge they've never made that type of kit for an octavia. No reason to believe there would a be quality difference between the two?

With a pro kit, although only a mild drop the advantage of that is that you could keep your oe dampers if you wanted, however many people also upgrade dampers too (bilsteins being a popular choice).

If you want a "50mm" drop (which on a vrs is probably more like 35mm) then go for a matched set of springs/dampers -e.g. h&r cup kit, weitec ultra gts etc. Lots of choice on the dpm site:

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/octavia-1z-06-springs-shocks-c-1929_1947_2119.html?zenid=d18935784b758d0f8c32d100f7ac4b9e

agree - don't buy the cheapest - i've dicked around with cars long enough to know that where suspension is concerned it really is false economy to go for cheap gear. Daz has the weitec kit iirc and rates it - and there are a few guys with h&r and there was a group buy recently on bilstein b12 (uses bilstein dampers and eibach pro springs).

HTH?

Hi

That you very much that makes a little bit more sense ,

With regards to Eibach Sportline springs i've found this :

http://www.jabbasport.com/store/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=20-79-002-01-22

What do you think?

I think those are probably for a mk1?

If you want to use your original OE shocks then you can't go as low at 50mm without compromising the ride. Stick to the pro-kit in that case and it will be a little lower and firm it up slightly improving the handling as well

What you mean by " compromising the ride" ?

What you mean by " compromising the ride" ?

Stock dampers wouldn't cope with a 50mm drop without ruining the ride quality

What you mean by " compromising the ride" ?

You'd bottom out the shock absorber and it would likely put the damping rod through the bottom.

There is no way you'd go that low without changing the shocks too or going to coilovers.

If it helps I've just installed a set of Bilstein B12 to an Octavia and the ride is miles ahead of the stock suspension for comfort and miles ahead of the vRS suspension for handling.

Sure it's not a huge drop, the the change is night and day.

if its too low it will be riding on its bump stops and the ride will feel very bouncy

Ok this clarify my my worries Thank you all. What about H&R 35 mm drop then ?

H&R are good so are the Eibachs and I think Weitec might do a set, all will be good on standard shocks as long as they don't go lower than 35 max. Eibachs might be better as a lot of people on here seem to have fitted them and found they don't go that low which is a good thing if running standard shocks

35mm drop on a VRS will be quite a drop as it already runs 15-20mm lower than standard.

I'm not saying it's a problem as such, but just make sure you think about where you're driving, speed bumps etc before you put your money down on any system.

35mm drop on a VRS will be quite a drop as it already runs 15-20mm lower than standard.

I'm not saying it's a problem as such, but just make sure you think about where you're driving, speed bumps etc before you put your money down on any system.

I'm sorry being so thick but I thought that for example if H&R offers drop of 35mm it's the value from standard suspension not from already lowered cars for example:

H&R 35mm springs would lower the VRS's by 15-20mm and standard octavias by 35mm

Eibach pro kit 20mm would not drop VRS but would octavias by 20mm

I'm wrong?

I would expect that if the kit is made for VRS, then it lowers the VRS by the mm's marked on the kit... or are those kits made for regular Octavias?

I would expect that if the kit is made for VRS, then it lowers the VRS by the mm's marked on the kit... or are those kits made for regular Octavias?

depends on the brand

look at the weitec ultra gt kits; they are listed as -30 for every model other than vrs which is listed as -20mm. based on that i'd guess that the kit for the vrs would lower 20mm as advertised.

h&r cup kits on the other hand; vrs at kit advertised at -50 also fits 1.4, 1.6 etc so you'd not achieve a full 50 drop on a vrs as that is already 15mm lower ie you'd get -35. Ditto the h&r "-30mm" cup kit, it fits other octavias so you'd only get somewhere like a 20mm drop on a vrs.

does that help?

H&R 35mm springs would lower the VRS's by 15-20mm and standard octavias by 35mm

It'd lower a vrs by 20mm, yes.

Eibach pro kit 20mm would not drop VRS but would octavias by 20mm

I'm wrong?

Eibach pro kit is listed as "30mm" so on a vrs would give you a 15mm drop.

Edited 'cos I can't do maths..

Edited 15 October, 201213 yr by rob_e

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/241847-octavia-vrs-tfsi/

Take a look at mark_eire's car on the link above, initially fitted with h&r "35mm" springs so a 20mm drop, then scroll down the thread to see it fitted with "50mm" springs so effectively a 35mm drop vs stock vrs height.

Hi

I’ve finally made the decision and will go for.......... H&R 50mm with 15mm spacers at the back and standard dumpers.

Does anyone know any good deal on them ? Is there anywhere we get discount as Briskoda members?

Regards

Seb

The best quote I've got so far is £185 delivered

Be really interested to see your motor once done and your thoughts on how it rides VRSka as been wondering the same for mine. Was going down OE dampers and eibach pro kit. But the H&R 50 or 35 actual seems like a really good idea.

I’ve finally made the decision ... H&R 50mm .. standard dumpers.

You'd bottom out the shock absorber and it would likely put the damping rod through the bottom.

There is no way you'd go that low without changing the shocks too or going to coilovers.

Stock dampers wouldn't cope with a 50mm drop without ruining the ride quality

rob_e ........H&R 50mm is not actually 50 mm but around 30mm because they measure from standard suspension not VRS isn't correct?

Edited 18 October, 201213 yr by VRSka

Yeah the -45/50mm springs are a drop of 30/35mm over standard vRS, however as has been said above, you need to use the Eibach/H&R -30mm springs (15mm drop over std vRS)if your sticking with the standard shocks, the shocks won't last any length with -50mm springs and will bottom out etc,

Edited 18 October, 201213 yr by mark_eire

I think possibly the OP is getting confused by the -50mm part. I take it the -50mm spring will drop a Vrs by -38mm (haven't I read that the actual drop of a Vrs over 'standard' suspension is -12mm?) and that is too much for the Vrs dampers.

H&R 50mm with 15mm spacers at the back and standard dumpers.

that's gone hurt after a while..........literally too!!

Edited 18 October, 201213 yr by JR RS