Hi folks,

I'm contemplating a bit of a transmission rebuild.

Is there any downsides to a Limited slip differential for everyday usability?

Does it mess up the ASR with faults or anything? harder on any parts of the car etc?

Cheers,

Michael

I know this is on my fabia, but the LSD has been better in all respects. ASR cuts in less if anything, and when it does it is because both wheels have lost/are losing traction.

I wouldn't say its harder on the car. Trying to think if it would affect the driveshafts, but I have had no driveshaft / CV problems at all.

Yeah, the come down , the flash ...... Oh wait, that lsd.

I don't know sorry !!

I knew that was coming!

Yeah, the come down , the flash ...... Oh wait, that lsd.

I don't know sorry !!

A moderator making a joke in a non off-topic section?! whatever next?!

[note my serious reply above ]

wear on tyres, if you drive it hard

Yeah, the come down , the flash ...... Oh wait, that lsd.

I don't know sorry !!

That explains everything

Would that be much different?

I actually find it pretty decent to its tyres at the minute.

If you break traction on a corner the effect is much more profound, especially in the wet, as you loose traction with both wheels instead of the inside wheel - if that makes sense.

I would have one every time though given the choice!!!

Steve

It gives you more grip so when you do reach the limit it happens more suddenly and you're generally going faster. They take some getting used to in FWD cars.

Something like a quaiffe ATB is easier to live with on the road than say a plate type diff

I get the idea of once you lose grip, you've lost it. and it may be tougher than just lifting off to get grip back but at that stage you really are pushing it aren't you? Much more down to road surface camber etc with one..

I have actually only driven rwd cars with a LSD.

So thanks for the opinions!

Other than actually driving hard which I generally don't, I want it to be bulletproof.

What are Peloquin like?

look at wavetrac, group1rs (pete) has one on here, a better design that the quaife or pelos as they offer traction even when no load is present.

Mine's a peloquin. My only scary memory was driving home and me doing my "normal" pull out to overtake, and the car nearly leapt into the hedge on the right side of the road.... I had to fully get off the throttle to straighten up, then get back on the power. Was not my smoothest overtake ever, but it drove home what the diff does. I am used to it now though. I almost "accelerate" steer out to overtake if you know what I mean. Requires less steering as both wheels are both steering and accelerating at the same time, equally.

Bank balance

lol devontopia,

the quaife atb were known as ditchfinders in the focus rs iirc

don't get me wrong, they are great, you just have to be on your game

I get the idea of once you lose grip, you've lost it. and it may be tougher than just lifting off to get grip back but at that stage you really are pushing it aren't you? Much more down to road surface camber etc with one..

I have actually only driven rwd cars with a LSD.

So thanks for the opinions!

Other than actually driving hard which I generally don't, I want it to be bulletproof.

What are Peloquin like?

On an open diff you lose traction on the inside wheel and start to understeer in a progressive kind of way. When the traction goes from both wheels it's much more sudden. Dont get me wrong they are very good and you get more grip it's just that there are downsides and they take getting used to. Its a different driving style.

look at wavetrac, group1rs (pete) has one on here, a better design that the quaife or pelos as they offer traction even when no load is present.

There are plenty of better diffs than a quaiffe it's just that the quaiffe (and the like) is a bit more progressive in how it kicks in and acts in general which IMO makes them a decent choice for road use. All IMO though

Cheers Oet!

How much would these go for second hand in a box?

would you get one for £500 ish?

what do you think of the wavetrac Frisco?

http://www.wavetrac.net/technical.htm

Cheers Oet!

How much would these go for second hand in a box?

would you get one for £500 ish?

prob is Michael, they are quite new tech over here, so doubt you will find one, they cost around 800, and fitting wont cost you far off that again,

so if you are looking for one fitted in a box already, prob quaife are your best option, seen them go for the 500ish mark secondhand

Big Jase might be right then!

The main reason I am thinking of it is that I am going to do the SMF VR6 clutch conversion and my Diff is whining.

Last thing I want is to replace with secondhand gearbox for the diff to give up again in 10k miles.

It's not primarily for performance, more peace of mind and the odd 1/4 mile/trackday for fun.

I like the look of them alright, The Quaife or Peloquin is pushing the price to the extreme though.

I'd imagine by the time one of the Wavetracs was at my doorstep in Ireland, it would be worth more than my car. :(

Sorry, I missed the european dealers! :think:

Edited 12 November, 201213 yr by michael1

That explains everything

Not everything .... Just some of it. :wonder:

look at wavetrac, group1rs (pete) has one on here, a better design that the quaife or pelos as they offer traction even when no load is present.

i have driven petes car, and i have driven it hard, and his DIFF is the total nuts!! fact!! if you got the money, wavetrac is the one!

it would be worth more than my car. :(

I think if my car with its mileage was "standard", my current 6 speed with peloquin + fork strengthening mods would be worth more.

what do you think of the wavetrac Frisco?

http://www.wavetrac.net/technical.htm

TBH I haven't driven a wavetrac so I cant really say a whole lot about it. The idea sounds nice but again less warning before you fly off the roundabout into a hedge.I'll have to try one.