Having worked for an end of life insurance yard, normally if both airbags have deployed it normally rights the vehicle of due to the cost of replacing dash etc & over the top labour rates charged by bodyshops

i am hoping it is a right off really so i can buy the octavia3 or the new rapid , fingers cross

If he is from an EU country he can drive here until either his EU licence expires or he is 70, whichever is sooner.

There is no requirement to exchange an EU (or an EEA) licence for a UK one. Should the holder receive any endorsements the DVLA will just issue a counterpart to his licence.

If he is insured and no one was injured, it is not a police matter.

Not picking just pointing out the current rules in GB on the matter as if the individual has been resident for 5 years he does not posses a valid driving licence. It is as above but with a little extra.

You can drive in Great Britain on your full, valid driving licence until you’re 70, or for 3 years after becoming resident in Great Britain, whichever is longer.

Fingers crossed it all gets sorted but if not as long as you have Fully Comp insurance this should cover it and many these days seem to offer protection against uninsured drivers to not loose NCB and this would not be an accident recorded as your fault. Although as we all know the old question "Have you been involved in an accident/claim in the last 5 years, regardless of fault?" No matter who pays out they still try to sting you on renewal. Fingers crossed the other parties insurer just pays up.

i am chinese

Does this make you an unwashed asylum seeker too, as you suggested the other bloke was then cos he came from Europe??

Dangerous thing to be making generalisations about a nationality, isn't it Tony?!

I find it ironic how once minority groups now adopt the high ground over other ethnic groups these days.

Its anger at this guy hitting his car...Simple

Not picking just pointing out the current rules in GB on the matter as if the individual has been resident for 5 years he does not posses a valid driving licence. It is as above but with a little extra.

Fingers crossed it all gets sorted but if not as long as you have Fully Comp insurance this should cover it and many these days seem to offer protection against uninsured drivers to not loose NCB and this would not be an accident recorded as your fault. Although as we all know the old question "Have you been involved in an accident/claim in the last 5 years, regardless of fault?" No matter who pays out they still try to sting you on renewal. Fingers crossed the other parties insurer just pays up.

It's valid until he is 70 (or 3 years after becoming resident, so theoretically 72 years 364 days) whichever is longer providing the licence is valid. Don't know where you got the 5 years thing from. That would be virtually impossible to prove due to the free movement throughout Europe.

Driver licensing is fairly simple. It is complicated by Internet myths. Some of the excuses I hear as I tow someone's car away for not having a valid licence are priceless.

Its anger at this guy hitting his car...Simple

Agreed, but doesn't make it acceptable. If a chinese guy smacked my car and I came on here with stereotypical or racist views about HIS race just cos I was p1$$ed off, i'm prettttty sure Tony would be a bit miffed at it!

@ Tony

depending on who you are insured with i would think it is a write off.

most insurance companies won't allow vehicles to be repaired when the airbags have gone off

not just because of the price but also the problem of refitting safely and then guaranteeing they are safe

6 month old Mercedes S Class had a front bump all front airbags had gone off (iirc 6?)

total cost of repair was quoted at £14000 from Mercedes

they(insurance co) wrote the car off instead paying him the full cost of a replacement brand new car

he has gap free with his insurance for cars up to 2 years old

the mileage on the car was 1500 miles

when he asked why it was not going to be repaired the explanation was due to airbag deployment

5 months later he was contacted by a dealer asking if the mileage was correct so we presume it was sold and then repaired

Does this make you an unwashed asylum seeker too, as you suggested the other bloke was then cos he came from Europe??

Dangerous thing to be making generalisations about a nationality, isn't it Tony?!

i am from hong kong that use to be own by the British, so i am a british citizen, i am working pay my taxes,

he is a well known idiot as a friend know them a bit and bent as a tyre, in uk over 5 years using different name to claim as much benefit as he can, his name at the moment is Eug*n adam, he is as much as a adam as i am a mr smith

Sorry i sound racists but those muppets really chesse me off, Rotherham town center is full of them working around looking at what is not screw down. i am sure Rotherham is not the only town over run by that type of people , i came to this country, go by your rules , pay my way , never been on any benefit, then all i see is tax payer money wasted like this.

Edited 18 November, 201213 yr by tony2311

Don't know where you got the 5 years thing from.

From reading the Tony's post:

he is eastern europeon,, with a name 'Eugen Adam', only very limited English, the car is a 'R' reg , europen driving license but been driving in UK for five years

That would be virtually impossible to prove due to the free movement throughout Europe.

All movement in Europe is monitored and recorded, ports airports etc. So if he was to spend the majority of his time in UK that would be easily evident (that is an avenue UK Insurance companies do go down). Also if working in the UK legally he will be paying taxes and employer etc so also easy to see. More than likely with UK employment to have an address at which he lives, bank account, bills and the like. Car being a UK car registered insurance history in UK etc. Harder to disprove than prove.

My comment was tongue in cheek, seemed to disapear from my post

From reading the Tony's post:

All movement in Europe is monitored and recorded, ports airports etc. So if he was to spend the majority of his time in UK that would be easily evident (that is an avenue UK Insurance companies do go down). Also if working in the UK legally he will be paying taxes and employer etc so also easy to see. More than likely with UK employment to have an address at which he lives, bank account, bills and the like. Car being a UK car registered insurance history in UK etc. Harder to disprove than prove.

Sorry, I mistook what you were saying. I thought you were implying that if you live here for 5 years you needed to get a UK licence. What i'm saying is that if he has been resident for 5 years, it makes no difference. He is an EU licence holder and therefore is quite legally allowed to drive until he is 70 or his licence expires (as can a Hong Kong licence holder as that is a 'designated country').

Entry from Europe is not routinely recorded. ANPR data is collected but this is at best sporadic in its coverage. Trust me as someone who routinely works with the UKBA, they haven't got a clue who is here from EU countries (or at least they claim to the police that is the case).

Just a quick update, the car is being repair at my friends garage as i trust him a lot more then the other garages the insurance company sugguested, during the time i was thinking of replacing the car as i though it was going to be a write off, i couldnt found a car £14k auto matic that would do the job aswell as the skoda, only car that tempted me was the focus 1.0 but that dont come with auto

the hire car 308sw 1.6diesel auto over 1000miles has average 38.7 miles and thats with me driving it as normal.i average 36mpg in my 1.2octavia, in real term in cost more to fuel the 308sw as diesel fuel cost more to buy. how can 308sw be so bad, the gear change is crap

At OP, glad your car is being repaired!

Taking nationalities out of the equation, there are still far too many people taking the pi*s out of the law-abiding citizens in this country. Not properly insured, not insured at all, driving unlicensed, not giving a **** about other people's property / cars etc.

The UK is an easy touch. The 'Eastern Europeans' (generic term covering many nations) have simply noticed this and started, in huge numbers, to take advantage of it. That's what humans do. Take advantage of anything they can to 'better' themselves and provide for their families. Other groups got there before the Eastern Europeans. Plenty of them.

We need to look at ourselves and tighten up our laws and practices.

I am going to India on holiday next week. Getting a Visa to get there was a long and drawn out process. Good on the Indians, I say. They don't just let anyone in. We should follow their lead and make the UK borders tougher.

Only once we have done that should we complain about others' behaviour.

Edited 8 December, 201213 yr by dunc69

I think all the morality Police should stand down. Tony is not English he is writing in his 3rd language. He is upset and trying to describe a Eastern European who smells of body odour if you actually read his post. Chill out a bit. If you get offended, check out the polish word murzyn which describes persons from another ethnic background. Eastern Europeans don't seem to have caught up with PC practice despite EU membership. Peace out.

I think all the morality Police should stand down. Tony is not English he is writing in his 3rd language. He is upset and trying to describe a Eastern European who smells of body odour if you actually read his post. Chill out a bit. If you get offended, check out the polish word murzyn which describes persons from another ethnic background. Eastern Europeans don't seem to have caught up with PC practice despite EU membership. Peace out.

Poland is not an Eastern European Country. Last time I checked, ( just now ) it was in central Europe. English is also my second language, but that does not justify me to use words like "rite off" or car is being "repair". Plus polish word " murzyn" is a much nicer way of calling a black person, than most of you do in real life.

Hang on, wasn't East Germany once under Russian rule? And I belive you have to go through Poland to reach Germany if traveling overland from the east. Poland is absolutely Eastern Europe.

Poland is not an Eastern European Country. Last time I checked, ( just now ) it was in central Europe. English is also my second language, but that does not justify me to use words like "rite off" or car is being "repair". Plus polish word " murzyn" is a much nicer way of calling a black person, than most of you do in real life.

Poland is Eastern Europe.

Poland is Eastern Europe.

Central if you want to be like that

Why would Briskoda face legal issues?

If somebody makes a racist comment on Facebook or twitter then the person making the comment is held accountable not the site.

Why would it be any different for Briskoda?

Regards,

Ivor.

Hmmm

Mods -- this thread could possibly be heading in WAY the wrong direction. I haven't got a racist bone in my body, and some of the comments here have really opened my eyes. Perhaps it's now time to lock this thread before someone gets really offended and Briskoda gets caught up in any legal issues.<br /><br />Mike

<br /><br />Mike, <br />I'm sure you have the best intentions at heart but I struggle to see the problem here. The OP is dis gruntled at the fact he has been involved in an RTC with an Easterrn European gent. His comments may be a little 'left field' but they are his views and he is entitled to them. <br /><br />As for the fact that some comments in this post have opened your eyes, have you lived in cotton wool for the last 30 years

Edited 9 December, 201213 yr by Octyman140